The Several Forms Of RSM (manga readers only)

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Since when it stated or shown "whosoever has no eye shadow has rsm"?

Current naruto looks 99% like war arc bsm

Looking less like a frog or looking more like normal human means more control of sage mode

This chapter shows bsm, you have to use a electromicroscope to look at a little dot to say otherwise

I hope you are joking. He was using RSM.

Those missing dark pigmentation is how us readers are able to distinguish the difference between BSM/KSM and RSM.

Naruto used Toad Sage mode in the Gaiden and he still has those dark pigmentations -
 

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Since when it stated or shown "whosoever has no eye shadow has rsm"?

Current naruto looks 99% like war arc bsm

Looking less like a frog or looking more like normal human means more control of sage mode

This chapter shows bsm, you have to use a electromicroscope to look at a little dot to say otherwise

The only times in the manga when Naruto doesn't have eye shadow on his eyes is when he is using rikudou chakra and that is fact.
If it was due to control than Why in the last chapter did his sage mode have eye shadow. Naruto with half kurama using all the beasts resembled his bijuu mode self or the bijuu mode features better than all other rsm users, What did you expect when he got full kurama. The absent eye shadow and immediate activation of sage eyes show he is in rsm. Even bm naruto can't go bsm straight from base, that's Why when he attacked Madara before kurama was yanked he was in bm and not bsm cause he was rushing too much.
 

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The only times in the manga when Naruto doesn't have eye shadow on his eyes is when he is using rikudou chakra and that is fact.
If it was due to control than Why in the last chapter did his sage mode have eye shadow. Naruto with half kurama using all the beasts resembled his bijuu mode self or the bijuu mode features better than all other rsm users, What did you expect when he got full kurama. The absent eye shadow and immediate activation of sage eyes show he is in rsm. Even bm naruto can't go bsm straight from base, that's Why when he attacked Madara before kurama was yanked he was in bm and not bsm cause he was rushing too much.

98% characters have no eye shadows 99% of the time, so by saying this is sign of rsm is rather weak argument

There are so many explanation of why naruto and others had/has no eye shadows. And the reason for being rsm is extremely weak in comparison

99% look like bsm is undeniable facts. Naurto lack 99% qualities of being rsm

Naurto has only 1% similarity with rsm which is eye shadow and that 1 percent can simply by chance. It's no proof and its far from convincing
 

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The manipulation of his biju, rikudou,and sage power manipulation has improved immensely as evidenced by his removal of the chakra orb from Hinata,finisher on Toneri (in which he transferred the mass of kuramas chakra into his fist ),and him giving Kurama the ability to absorb natural energy (which he couldn't do before otherwise synching bm and and sm would only have cosmetic purpose )
 

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98% characters have no eye shadows 99% of the time, so by saying this is sign of rsm is rather weak argument

There are so many explanation of why naruto and others had/has no eye shadows. And the reason for being rsm is extremely weak in comparison

99% look like bsm is undeniable facts. Naurto lack 99% qualities of being rsm

Naurto has only 1% similarity with rsm which is eye shadow and that 1 percent can simply by chance. It's no proof and its far from convincing

Are you special, these irrelevant stats . 100% of sage mode users with No rikudou chakra have eye shadow and 100% of the people who have shown to be using senjutsu with No eye pigmentation are either influenced by rikudou chakra or Orochimarus chakra (the pigmentation is throughout the body). Funny how you used stats of people who don't use any senjutsu when this a discussion based on narutos form of senjutsu.
The fact that he is in sage mode with No eye shadow when when in the last chapter and and in the movie show him with eye shadow in sage mode prove that for his sm to be pigmentation absent it has to be influenced by rikudou chakra, unless you can provide an explanation instead of logical fallacy.
 
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Are you special, these irrelevant stats . 100% of sage mode users with No rikudou chakra have eye shadow and 100% of the people who have shown to be using senjutsu with No eye pigmentation are either influenced by rikudou chakra or Orochimarus chakra (the pigmentation is throughout the body). Funny how you used stats of people who don't use any senjutsu when this a discussion based on narutos form of senjutsu.

Because no eye shadow is a sign of being normal, not the other way around

Eye shadow = weird/not normal

No eye shadow = normal

What I'm saying is universally accepted and has been confirmed, unless you adopted your theory which is assumption base on obvservation and were never confirmed

Here's 2 questions

1. So while he looks 99% like bsm and look 1% like rsm, are you gonna call it rsm?

2. Do you believe adult rsm naruto incapable to capture onion while naruto is in god mode?
 

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It's the same form of sage mode just with different chakra being used, just like how Naruto is still in Toad sage mode whether he is in kcsm or bsm
 

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This is why Hunter X Hunter is better. Narrator explains the character's abilities right on the spot.

I just started watching the anime (ep 40 at the moment) and they do take their time explaining things.

OT: RSM confirmed.
 

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Because no eye shadow is a sign of being normal, not the other way around

Eye shadow = weird/not normal

No eye shadow = normal

What I'm saying is universally accepted and has been confirmed, unless you adopted your theory which is assumption base on obvservation and were never confirmed

Here's 2 questions

1. So while he looks 99% like bsm and look 1% like rsm, are you gonna call it rsm?

2. Do you believe adult rsm naruto incapable to capture onion while naruto is in god mode?

Your percentages are wrong as No eye pigmentation and toad eyes means naruto is in rsm. You say it's an indicator of being normal but he can't possible be normal if he has toad eyes. Like I said Nobody in sage mode is absent of eye shadow unless they are influenced by rikudou chakra. I'm gonna call it rsm for the same reasons a doctor can say that a head shot victim is dead even though the only difference is a small little hole in the head, details can determine everything, the detail of removing Eye pigmentation on a sage mode user is a big indicator of the influence of rikudou chakra. Notice the emphasis on individuals in sage mode and even kaguya didn't lay a finger on kakashi with kamui. Naruto was letting Kurama do whatever and was primarily protecting the girls. Shin getting away was due to Narutos nonchalantness and plot
 
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Your percentages are wrong as No eye pigmentation and toad eyes means naruto is in rsm. You say it's an indicator of being normal but he can't possible be normal if he has toad eyes. Like I said Nobody in sage mode is absent of eye shadow unless they are influenced by rikudou chakra. I'm gonna call it rsm for the same reasons a doctor can say that a head shot victim is dead even though the only difference is a small little hole in the head, details can determine everything, the detail of removing Eye pigmentation on a sage mode user is a big indicator of the influence of rikudou chakra. Notice the emphasis on individuals in sage mode:

My percentage is based on every single detail about naruto new mode

I can name every single things about naruto in 100 parts

And the only part you say it looks like rsm is eye shadow

Everything I see is bsm except that one thing which was never confirmed in ink and paper, and that's the only thing you base off to call it 99-100% rsm?!
 

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My percentage is based on every single detail about naruto new mode

I can name every single things about naruto in 100 parts

And the only part you say it looks like rsm is eye shadow

Everything I see is bsm except that one thing which was never confirmed in ink and paper, and that's the only thing you base off to call it 99-100% rsm?!

And the eye shadow is the large detail, it is the detail that determines what form of sage mode he is using not the other stuff you're looking at. You still can't tell Why Narutos eye pigmentation disappeares only when using rikudou power like in the war.
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Nothing is bsm as s bsm has eye shadow, the other features just show the dominance of kuramas chakra, but when eye shadow is absent and toad eyes are still there he is using rikudou chakra and you can't disprove this
 
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And the eye shadow is the large detail, it is the detail that determines what form of sage mode he is using not the other stuff you're looking at. You still can't tell Why Narutos eye pigmentation disappeares only when using rikudou power like in the war

If you choose to only look at his eye shadow and ignore the rest of his body, its ok though I wouldn't think its logical enough

However, do you believe naruto in his rsm+bsm failed to capture onion after he decided to capture him?
 

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If you choose to only look at his eye shadow and ignore the rest of his body, its ok though I wouldn't think its logical enough

However, do you believe naruto in his rsm+bsm failed to capture onion after he decided to capture him?

The rest of his body doesn't determine his sage mode his eyes do. What's the difference between base naruto, sm naruto and the naruto that fought pre shinju madara.
The eyes
The eyes determined the sage mode.
Only rikudou influenced sage mode users have No eye pigmentation but use senjutsu (jj obito madara and hagaromo and kaguya ). His eyes decide what senjutsu he is using while his body determines if He's using bijuu chakra.


Yes he failed to capture someone who escaped via kamui, wand ho got away from Sasuke (who can run down a juubi jin) with shunshin. Even Kaguya didn't touch kakashi with his dms
 

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He has full Kurama now so his look can change since his RSM is way stronger than War arc RSM.
 
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