3T Madara VS Base Killer Bee

[neosmith500]

Location: Bee VS Taka

Conditions: Madara has gunbai

Scenario2: V1/V2

Distance: 10m

 

[KeyofDestiny]

Madara uses Katon, then B dies.

 

[LuckyMan]

Bee wrecks him with SSD.

 

[neosmith500]

Madara uses Katon, then B dies.

Cant bee shunshin outa there before he gets roasted then try to blindside madz?

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What about scenario 2?

 

[Beans2]

Samehada counters katon. Bee can wrap himself in tentacles to protect himself as well, and any damage from the heat can be healed using Samehada. Hachibi breaks genjutsu. In close combat Bee wrecks Madara who can't keep up with his unorthodox sword movements + Samehada's attacks since he only has 3T precognition.

Killer Bee takes this mid diff.

 

[Icelerate]

Madara can hold his own in CQC against Bee just fine with his Gunbai. Madara's superior speed guarantees that Bee won't get the better of him and eventually I see a large scale katon taking Bee out.

Madara takes this low-mid difficulty IMO.

 

[Wakizashi]

madara wins this one since he has greater experience in Close Quarters Combat

 

[KeyofDestiny]

Cant bee shunshin outa there before he gets roasted then try to blindside madz?

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What about scenario 2?

I dunno, but I forgot he had Samehada. He probably wins both scenarios.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Madara traps bee in fire barrier. GG

 

[Amaterasu]

Samehada counters katon. Bee can wrap himself in tentacles to protect himself as well, and any damage from the heat can be healed using Samehada. Hachibi breaks genjutsu. In close combat Bee wrecks Madara who can't keep up with his unorthodox sword movements + Samehada's attacks since he only has 3T precognition.

Killer Bee takes this mid diff.

Samehada won't tank Gouka Mekakyuu my boy.

Madara wins med-diff, he is superior in everything, tentacles won't harm him.

 

[Conspirator.]

Madara takes it mid to high diff.

 

[LuckyMan]

Samehada won't tank Gouka Mekakyuu my boy.

Madara wins med-diff, he is superior in everything, tentacles won't harm him.

Wrapping himself in his tentacles will let him survive, and no Madara is not superior in everything, especially when the fight gets to, CQC, Bee wrecks.

 

[Izanamı.]

Bee wins if he has Samehada.

 

[Draphsin]

Wrapping himself in his tentacles will let him survive, and no Madara is not superior in everything, especially when the fight gets to, CQC, Bee wrecks.

:lol Madara punks bee in cqc. Madara > Itachi & itachi didn't get touched by bee at all except for the sneak attack w/ his tentacle, but that just allows madara to place him in a genjutsu like in canon & burn him alive.

Bee's only chance in cqc is his 8 sword style but madara simply blocks w/ his gunbai & roasts him w/ a point blank katon & before he can protect himself.

As for samehada it's extremely slow in bee's hands, madara disarms him w/o much trouble.

OT: Madara wins S1 easily, however in S2 he has no way to put bee down. V2 Tanks all katon so his main firepower is useless here + he has no way to tank a lariat, bee takes that one easily.

 

[LuckyMan]

:lol Madara punks bee in cqc. Madara > Itachi & itachi didn't get touched by bee at all except for the sneak attack w/ his tentacle, but that just allows madara to place him in a genjutsu like in canon & burn him alive.

Madara feat in taijutsu is stomping a bunch of fodders. Any competent Shinobi in taijutsu can do that so him being better than Itachi is invalid. Itachi ran away so of course he didn't get touched. Don't be coy, no Genjutsu is putting Bee down when Gyuki breaks him out.

Bee's only chance in cqc is his 8 sword style but madara simply blocks w/ his gunbai & roasts him w/ a point blank katon & before he can protect himself.

Now Madara can block 7 different angles simultaneously? Since when? What's Gunbai going to do anyway? Bees Raiton swords will cuts it to pieces when they clash.

As for samehada it's extremely slow in bee's hands, madara disarms him w/o much trouble.

Baseless. Who has Madara disarmed besides a group of fodders only there to make him look good?

 

[Draphsin]

Madara feat in taijutsu is stomping a bunch of fodders.

Actually, his best feat is blitzing SM naruto while blind & matching hashi in cqc, same guy who has the speed & reactions to

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a traveling tbb, don't forget that one.

Any competent Shinobi in taijutsu can do that so him being better than Itachi is invalid.

:lol Can't believe you're claiming that itachi is better than madara in any category other than genjutsu.. Until itachi has a feat of blitzing a SM user he will remain below madara.

Itachi ran away so of course he didn't get touched.

Irrelevant to my point, sasuke ran away, didn't stop him from

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though. Itachi didn't get touched & he was engaging both naruto & bee simultaneously.

Don't be coy, no Genjutsu is putting Bee down when Gyuki breaks him out.

Show me where I said genjutsu is putting him down, it takes a few seconds for gyuki to break him free & in that time he gets roasted.

Now Madara can block 7 different angles simultaneously? Since when?

Since the shape of the gunbai has been shown to be as wide as a human body, thus preventing any of bee's short blades from getting near him while stopping his spinning. Unless of course you think bee can suddenly blitz behind madara then all of his attacks are parried/blocked via gunbai, which essentially acts as a shield.

What's Gunbai going to do anyway? Bees Raiton swords will cuts it to pieces when they clash.

Any chakra that goes into that gunbai comes right back out at bee via

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, he blows himself back.

Baseless. Who has Madara disarmed besides a group of fodders only there to make him look good?

Now madara needs feats of disarming someone fast? Show me bee preventing someone fast from disarming him, same thing..

Madara is much faster, so he easily disarms bee.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Samehada counters katon. Bee can wrap himself in tentacles to protect himself as well, and any damage from the heat can be healed using Samehada. Hachibi breaks genjutsu. In close combat Bee wrecks Madara who can't keep up with his unorthodox sword movements + Samehada's attacks since he only has 3T precognition.

Killer Bee takes this mid diff.

You're funny, Samehada ain't taking Katon Jutsu's of Madara's level.

 

[Blunt]

It's quite funny how people are using Bee's performance against Sasuke, who was canonically weakened at that point due to his previous fight to determine this match up. Sasuke is nothing compared to Madara when it comes to speed and overall fighting prowess.

Madara wrecks him, Draphsin has said it best.

 

[A v i]

Madara was shown to have reactions that are almost as good as that of Tobirama so he might actually win this. Needless to say that Bee has no defence against Madara's fire style.

:lol Madara punks bee in cqc. Madara > Itachi & itachi didn't get touched by bee at all except for the sneak attack w/ his tentacle, but that just allows madara to place him in a genjutsu like in canon & burn him alive.

Bee's only chance in cqc is his 8 sword style but madara simply blocks w/ his gunbai & roasts him w/ a point blank katon & before he can protect himself.

Itachi never really tried to fight him head on like Sasuke. Everything he had done back then was to get away from Bee's reach which is something even Sasuke can do if it wasn't for him trying to act cool and face him head on.

 

[LuckyMan]

Actually, his best feat is blitzing SM naruto while blind & matching hashi in cqc, same guy who has the speed & reactions to

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a traveling tbb, don't forget that one.

Lol. Learn the difference between Taijutsu and moving from point A to point B. Madara blitzed Naruto and shoved him back. How the hell does that mean he can best Bee in a taijutsu fight? That's like me saying since Minato was faster than Ay (no FTG, according to DB) he should be able to best every shinobi who is slower than him in a taijutsu fight. Makes no sense.

Your Hashiramas feat is invalid too. He started running before the blast was even shot (you hid that panel) and he didn't need to intercept anything because he was already on front of it and unless you have some way to measure the speed Kuramas TBB goes I don't know why you brought this up.

:lol Can't believe you're claiming that itachi is better than madara in any category other than genjutsu.. Until itachi has a feat of blitzing a SM user he will remain below madara.

I didn't say Itachi was better than Madara in anything. That's you not comprehending my point. Your claim of Madara being better at CqC is invalid. Maybe Madara is better, but your claim of him being better isnt holding because of the following reasons; Your feat has been debunked of Madara being some superior badass taijutsu master to Bee because him blitzing Naruto back does not mean he will best Bee in a taijutsu fight. Usain Bolt will beat everyone in MMA in a race from point A to point B but it doesn't mean he'll best them in the ring up close where that speed doesn't matter. Get it now?

Madara best feat is stomping those fodders in the alliance. Key word, Fodders. Beginning Part 2 Sasuke stomped 500+ fodders with tai/kenjutsu alone and most likely didn't even have Sharingan on and he didn't kill a single one so his feat is even more impressive than Madara and if all it took was someone with a 3.5 in Taijutsu to do that what could someone like Itachi do? Need I remind you he's ranked 2 whole tiers above that Sasuke in Taijutsu? So saying Madara is better than Itachi in that is invalid and I suggest you find a factual point to support your claim.

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Irrelevant to my point, sasuke ran away, didn't stop him from

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though. Itachi didn't get touched & he was engaging both naruto & bee simultaneously.

Sasuke was actually engaging him in the fight and trading blows. Itachi ran away. No, Naruto and Bee never attacked him at the same time and Narutos hand speed and taijutsu prowess was inferior to Itachis, which is all they used. You can say Itachi didn't get touched, but you can't say had the fight continued that way he would have emerged unscathed and the fact that he ran away to retreat is evidence he was getting overwhelmed.

Show me where I said genjutsu is putting him down, it takes a few seconds for gyuki to break him free & in that time he gets roasted.

Him being on the Genjutsu won't paralyze him so he'll still be able to move and use jutsu so this point meaningless.

Since the shape of the gunbai has been shown to be as wide as a human body, thus preventing any of bee's short blades from getting near him while stopping his spinning. Unless of course you think bee can suddenly blitz behind madara then all of his attacks are parried/blocked via gunbai, which essentially acts as a shield.

Its not going to protect him from Bee dancing around him and spraying Ink in his face to obstruct his vision. Bee is constantly on the move and his swords raise above Madara head and he can hit them off the other to quick shot him.

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, he blows himself back.

Not really. It is a ninjutsu Madara has to invoke (the weapon doesn't do it automatically) and the power that comes into it is what comes out so a little Raiton chakra on a sword or pencil isn't blowing Bee back at all.

Now madara needs feats of disarming someone fast? Show me bee preventing someone fast from disarming him, same thing.. Madara is much faster, so he easily disarms bee.

Yes Madara needs feats and I suggest you post them. You made a baseless claim that Madara will disarm Bee, a master taijutsu expert and swordsman, who effortlessly disarmed another master swordsman, Suigetsu. On the other hand, Madara beat up a bunch of fodders, a feat I showed Sasuke did even better with no effort.

If you're going to continue posting what Madara will do, then support it because nothing supports him beating Bee in CqC, disarming him of his weapons, or roasting him with Katon.