Hiashi versus Danzō
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TheAncientCenturion
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If you wanna change minds DMT (lel) just post an argument, see how many people agree/disagree or change their minds off of it.
Except if all Hiashi does is use rotation then he just depletes his reserves, if he ever amounts offense then Izanagi comes into play. Eventually Hiashi wont be able to do rotation.
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He won't need to constantly use rotation, just like how Danzo isn't going to be constantly throwing out ninjutsu when he knows it can be countered. The Air palm should be able to throw Danzo and any of his fuuton back. Close combat would be too dangerous for Danzo to attempt, I don't see how he really wins.
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Uh, what? PawsX muh niggie, can we address this?
Danzo, even with how random the spawn of Izanagi seems, is going to summon a boss sized animal and then run to the opposite side of Hiashi, before shit can be done? Ain't no way in Hell is that stunt being pulled off before Hiashi is aware of Baku, and the moment the suction starts an air palm throws Baku back.
Not to mention that, without a giant barrier such as Susano'o, it's questionable how Danzo'll operate under the suction. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, he seems like he knew his shit though. But yeah, I don't see that strategy going off too well.
I dont see how Hiashi handles suction, if he somehow manages to then it would have taken all his attention which gives Danzo the time to move to the other side like how he did against Sasuke. [
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].Danzo deals with suction by moving around the tress which will give him the ability to move forward, this wont help Hiashi as the suction will directly be aimed at him so no trees will help. Plus it doesnt need to be nearly as strong as it was against Sasuke as Hiashi has no susano to use.
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@The two bold points, uh, why can't Hiashi do that then? If the suction is that weak, or lowered significantly, then the threat of it dragging Hiashi is done, and Baku becomes a minor annoyance. Danzo's entire direction of attack actually is now predicted, and the air palm or rotation deals with them. But you want a counter for Baku. Aight, I got chu.
Hiashi god damn
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, when it was clear on the ground. Considering that the size between the two objects in question are roughly the same, I see no reason why an air palm won't throw Baku back. Keep in mind the suction could enhance the air palm, making it quicker, all the same. Come'ne, if Danzo is moving by the trees and fighting the suction, or eventually comes back around to use the ninjutsu and uses the trees to hide, obviously Hiashi can do the same. Unless after the initial fuuton Danzo uses, he lets Baku grab him just the same? As addressed above, if it's not as strong the threat level that Baku presents is just tiny, with actually helping Hiashi know which side Danzo'll come from.
Wait what are you talking about? Why cant Hiashi do what? The suction is not weak at all.. Danzo was scaling the side of the bridge where the suction pressure wasnt strong at all.
Difference will be Hiashi wont have time to
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the air palm, bottom right panel you can see him readying a stance. Baku will immediately pick him right off the floor and while midair he cant make an air palm that big as he
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in pulling off the technique to hold a good stance. Except suction pressure will be way stronger on Hiashi as its directed right at him while Danzo will only feel a little which he can use to trees in moving.
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Why can't Hiashi take cover behind the trees, as well? I understand what Danzo was doing, I am asking you why Hiashi cannot mimmick what Danzo'll do in this situation. Even the trees on the bridge weren't being entirely blown away, I'd have half a mind to believe that using them for cover won't be a last minute thought for Hiashi. It'd be priority, that or the air palm.
What the shit? Where did you get this stuff from? He needs the ground? Neji tells a different tell, in the still settling lake, especially where Neji is we can see this,
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, it hit Kisame. Hiashi literally does the same thing against the Juubi, just with two hands. Baku gets blown back, the speed of his air palm increased, and turns around to face whatever Danzo has in store for him. Except that by the time Danzo gets behind Hiashi, to the point where he can hit Hiashi and still get his fuuton enhanced, he'll be in the direction of it too, being pulled too. So yeah, not a good position for Danzo either. But Baku'll be taken out before then.
Well he would need to grab hold quick hold and on for dear life which again as I said allows Danzo to cross over to the other side which is what we were debating if he could.
How can you even compare the two? Did Neji create a
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around himself from the pressure of the attack? Neji shot it
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while Hiashi was shooting it up with the ground helping him keep his stance. Obviously he can use an air palm mid air but it wont be nothing compared to the one used on the juubi tail. The whole point would be to pressure Hiashi from both sides, if he decides to attack one straight on the other gets him from behind, if he used rotation he wastes chakra and Danzo can
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into Baku and yeah Danzo will be pulled by Hiashi will be getting to Baku way faster than Danzo.
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I don't see why it would take too long for Hiashi to do that, but it doesn't matter too much, as the air palm sends Baku flying.
Paws my man, I think you're a bit confused.
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, Neji had formed one too. It wasn't from the air palm. Nor did Hiashi shoot it upwards,
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at the hand literally on the ground a hundred meters in front of him. And still managed to throw it back in the air. They'll be pulled with the same amount of force and same speed if Danzo is out there, he'll just be farther back presumably. I get the strategy, but Danzo isn't getting behind Hiashi and doing his fuuton before Hiashi uses the air palm, the jutsu is legit quick as shit and there's not a reason for him to have much hindered. He can even use the technique before Baku begins to suck, in the worst possible scenario.
Dude. . If/when you watch it, just like. . Prepare. Winter focking came.
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Danzo's never shown to respawn beyond what, five-ten meters at most from his original position. I doubt he'd cross around and behind Hiashi with it, suddenly. Don't even think that it'd make a large difference, though. The Air Palm is a quick jutsu, he can hit Baku almost instantly once he appears or the suction starts.
