[Discussion] The gears are all equal.

[Tomato God]

My biggest concern for the gears was it was gear fourth being supperior to gear second and third but in lue of this current chapter it has become very clear of my original thought.

each gear has a purpose and cannot be replaced by anyother.
Gear second is speed and while faster punches hit harder they don't have more weight and the don't have more power.
Gear third is weight and size meaning its slower but more destructive than any other gear (that's why it was used against Noah and not gear four.
Gear four is strength which makes you fast and destructive but not enough to go toe to toe with the speedsters like sanji or kizaru and not big enough to break a ship the size of an island. The noah feat is still the most massive destructive feat we have seen leo bazooka hit doffy strait into a building but gear third destroyed the whole third prop with giant pistol before haki and before the skip because it is that much stronger.

This can be reaffirmed by the gears negative effects. Gear two leaves him slow while gear tbree makrs him small and gear fourth makes him limp

 

[Anduril]

I already thought this was clear. Gear 3 definitely packs more punch than Gear 4 and Gear 2 is definitely faster than Gear 4

 

[Wolves]

You don't say.

 

[Tomato God]

You don't say.

There was alot of people saying gear four is stronger nd faster... so ass hat it's not that obvious

 

[WoldOfFingo]

I don't really agree with you.

I think gear 4 is above gear 3 in strength
Look her for example.

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Luffy tried to hit Doffy with a gear 3 attack but Doffy blocked easily with what seems a simple string defense in the form of a spiderweb.

A few chapters ago Doffy did his awakening and created a string 'construction' that consisted of 'a lot' more strings.

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Look at how thick it is and Luffy headbutted trough it like it wasn't even there while in gear 3 he could not even make a dent in something much weaker. Note that with his fists he would most likely do it even easyer.
The only thing Gear 3 is better at is area of damage.
Gear 4 also seems even or better in speed than g2 which makes sense since his muscles in his legs expanded.
G2 agility is still better tho

 

[Kamui Sama]

gear 4th seems to inherently have some traits of gear 2nd (giving off steam and speed boost) but with it he was able to blitz Doffy a few times so he is very fast, he is clearly faster than Sanji in g4

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't really agree with you.

I think gear 4 is above gear 3 in strength
Look her for example.

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Luffy tried to hit Doffy with a gear 3 attack but Doffy blocked easily with what seems a simple string defense in the form of a spiderweb.

A few chapters ago Doffy did his awakening and created a string 'construction' that consisted of 'a lot' more strings.

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Look at how thick it is and Luffy headbutted trough it like it wasn't even there while in gear 3 he could not even make a dent in something much weaker. Note that with his fists he would most likely do it even easyer.
The only thing Gear 3 is better at is area of damage.
Gear 4 also seems even or better in speed than g2 which makes sense since his muscles in his legs expanded.
G2 agility is still better tho

I think Gear 2's speed is better because Doffy could throw up guards for Gear 4 several times, but couldn't notice Gear 2 until it was directly at his chest already.

 

[YellowFang]

Certainly each gear serves unique purpose in different situations...

 

[WoldOfFingo]

I think Gear 2's speed is better because Doffy could throw up guards for Gear 4 several times, but couldn't notice Gear 2 until it was directly at his chest already.

I'm not to sure man , Doffy was weakened afterall. It's all guess work tbh how much Gamma knife has lessened his speed or reflexes
G4 was indeed blocked a few times but at the same time it also 'blitzed' him 2 times without him being able to do anything.
maybe that's how fights go ? Sometimes u can block other times not. It seems normal to me
If 2 people with the same speed fight they won't keep on dodging forever, eventually anyone would get hit.

 

[Tomato God]

I don't really agree with you.

I think gear 4 is above gear 3 in strength
Look her for example.

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Luffy tried to hit Doffy with a gear 3 attack but Doffy blocked easily with what seems a simple string defense in the form of a spiderweb.

A few chapters ago Doffy did his awakening and created a string 'construction' that consisted of 'a lot' more strings.

Spoiler

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Look at how thick it is and Luffy headbutted trough it like it wasn't even there while in gear 3 he could not even make a dent in something much weaker. Note that with his fists he would most likely do it even easyer.
The only thing Gear 3 is better at is area of damage.
Gear 4 also seems even or better in speed than g2 which makes sense since his muscles in his legs expanded.
G2 agility is still better tho

That was an attack to get around spiderweb and unnamed and was not intended to get through the web aslater doffy blocked gear two attacks but avoided gear third.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

That was an attack to get around spiderweb and unnamed and was not intended to get through the web aslater doffy blocked gear two attacks but avoided gear third.

What? I don't quite get what u mean.
Facts are G3 could not make a dent. If that was gear 4 he would have punched trough the strings and sent Doffy flying at the same time.

 

[saw2097]

Actually he never used his spider web to try to block Luffy's punches from Gear 4, I think its because they were fast enough that he didn't get a chance to create the web, also they were in the air, and the first time he didn't realize what Luffy was doing.

In fact he never used his string to try to block any of Luffy's punches in Gear 4.

Gear 4 simply seems suited to beat a guy like Doflamingo, it combines speed with force and colossal defense rather than focusing on one.

I think the original poster is right.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

Actually he never used his spider web to try to block Luffy's punches from Gear 4, I think its because they were fast enough that he didn't get a chance to create the web, also they were in the air, and the first time he didn't realize what Luffy was doing.

In fact he never used his string to try to block any of Luffy's punches in Gear 4.

Gear 4 simply seems suited to beat a guy like Doflamingo, it combines speed with force and colossal defense rather than focusing on one.

I think the original poster is right.

It's seems pretty simple to me
Spiderweb < Doffy using his awakening and turning all the buildings in to one huge string
Huge string > thin string

 

[saw2097]

It's seems pretty simple to me
Spiderweb < Doffy using his awakening and turning all the buildings in to one huge string
Huge string > thin string

He had to use his whole body to penetrate that though, when he tried to block Luffy's other attack he succeeded, that's why he was able to last 20 minutes, if Luffy had hit him more than once after he used awakening the fight would be over.

I think that Gear 2 is faster than Doflamingo but it doesn't have the physical power to overcome him.

Gear 3 has the physical power to overcome him, but lacks the speed to keep up with him.

Gear 4 balances the two with enough strength and speed to defeat Doflamingo if it wasn't for the time limit.

 

[Tomato God]

What? I don't quite get what u mean.
Facts are G3 could not make a dent. If that was gear 4 he would have punched trough the strings and sent Doffy flying at the same time.

The next panel and following page he grabs the net and slings himself over doffy who barely escapes hawk gattling i.e. he wasn't tryning to break spider web he was trying to put pressure on doffy futhure emphasized by the fact that it was an unnamed attack

 

[kageking]

I'm not sure where this line of reasoning is coming from. Gear 4 is Luffy's strongest form and his fastest form. It also happens to be his most inconveniecing to use as a result of how rapidly it depletes his haki. If gear 2nd and 3rd were faster and stronger respectively, there would be no point in gear 4 at all.

 

[Tomato God]

I'm not sure where this line of reasoning is coming from. Gear 4 is Luffy's strongest form and his fastest form. It also happens to be his most inconveniecing to use as a result of how rapidly it depletes his haki. If gear 2nd and 3rd were faster and stronger respectively, there would be no point in gear 4 at all.

He used what gear to break down the biggest thing he broke i.e. noah? Not gear four.
Which gear can he use soru in? Not gear fourth.

 

[keshav31]

My biggest concern for the gears was it was gear fourth being supperior to gear second and third but in lue of this current chapter it has become very clear of my original thought.

each gear has a purpose and cannot be replaced by anyother.
Gear second is speed and while faster punches hit harder they don't have more weight and the don't have more power.
Gear third is weight and size meaning its slower but more destructive than any other gear (that's why it was used against Noah and not gear four.
Gear four is strength which makes you fast and destructive but not enough to go toe to toe with the speedsters like sanji or kizaru and not big enough to break a ship the size of an island. The noah feat is still the most massive destructive feat we have seen leo bazooka hit doffy strait into a building but gear third destroyed the whole third prop with giant pistol before haki and before the skip because it is that much stronger.

This can be reaffirmed by the gears negative effects. Gear two leaves him slow while gear tbree makrs him small and gear fourth makes him limp

What if DD body absorb the attack.So impact on building was not enough.Also this building is stronger then building on fishman island

 

[Blockerman3D]

It might also be noted that Luffy was unable to stop bouncing around after attacking Donflamingo when in gear fourth. Possibly the nature of the charged state prevents him from slowing during it's duration. This may prevent a sustained, directed attack at this power level.

 

[saw2097]

I'm not sure where this line of reasoning is coming from. Gear 4 is Luffy's strongest form and his fastest form. It also happens to be his most inconveniecing to use as a result of how rapidly it depletes his haki. If gear 2nd and 3rd were faster and stronger respectively, there would be no point in gear 4 at all.

Except that Gear 3 is slow and awkward while Gear 2 lacks impact power.

Gear 4 is slower than Gear 2 and less strong than gear 3 but it faster than gear 3 and has more power than gear 2.

Its a balanced form.