Sasori vs Zabuza

[Lord Tywin]

Hidden mist shits on Sasori.

 

[Veggie the Tormentor]

Sasori is faster than Haku with 4.5 in the databook and Haku won't freeze from 20 meters away, even if he could freeze fast enough without a canon jutsu.

Sasori wouldn't necessarily start in his vulnerable real form and could just unseal an explosive tag to unfreeze himself long enough to summon his army, or use Iron Sand spam to beat Haku slowly. Bloodlusted Sasori would just hang back and not play around like he did with Chiyo. Puppet army, chakra enhanced Iron Sand, and fire lasers overwhelm Haku's defense while Sasori hangs out on a cloud in the sky where he can't be attacked besides through Haku's vulnerable teleportation. IC mindset Haku doesn't try to kill Sasori at first because he looks like a kid.

The dome has an open bottom and is useless as a defense because of Iron Sand. Even if his joints were frozen, Sasori's heart could just levitate out of the body. Haku has horrible stamina and would have to finish the fight immediately, but is slower. Haku's not precise, chakra heavy, or experienced enough to continually use any unnamed freezing technique on everything in Sasori's arsenal. Chiyo was hyped sannin-level and Sasori went easy on her, while she also knew his tricks. Potentially, Sasori could just have an invisible chakra thread pick up a poisoned senbon and fling it at Haku while he's distracted with failing to keep up with everything Sasori throws.

Iron Sand spread throughout the area, wires, and senbon with poison will catch Zabuza in Hidden Mist, unless Zabuza's blitzed first. Both Zabuza and Haku really can't pierce either of the defenses of Sasori, too. Sasori doesn't really have eyes, so it can also be argued that Hidden Mist wouldn't do anything to his sensory system.

Sasori stomps fanfic Haku, and Zabuza won't even affect Sasori.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Sasori beats both Haku and Zabuza easily

 

[Zexion~]

What are you talking about..? I said from the jump that frozen air does his wooden body dirty. No, your comprehension skills are just dirt. Didn't know I said Sasori was a tree, that would freeze whole. Not even comparable. I said his joints would freeze, stopping his movements.

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Really not a hard concept to grasp. Sai's ink birds is a jutsu infused with chakra... Sasori's body is literally just wood, and would freeze like in the picture above.

Wood with a chakra system and a beating heart at the center Lol? Yes I know branches can freeze #SurvivorofIcestorm2007, but unless you can prove to me that Haku is making the air colder then around 0 F which is what it would need to be to achieve that kind of freezing than your point is moot. He makes cold air around his KKG.... Its basically like being in an ice rink, it gets cold. A branch isn't freezing solid never mind his thicker,bulkier joints bud.

Wank

 

[Songbird Supreme]

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sexy zex is simply always right

 

[New Dawn]

Sasori won't freeze with chakra heart. He'll stomp on both Zabuza & Haku. His raw power is too much. He is intelligent too. Give Sasori prep and he comes Ultron. lol.

 

[Veggie the Tormentor]

I forgot to add that Zabuza also could be defeated first, Sasori uses Zabuza as a puppet, and kills Haku with Zabuza. Hidden Mist really only works against Zabuza's ability to dodge the various small things that Sasori uses.

 

[Beans2]

Finally a match that Sasori actually wins.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Sasori is faster than Haku with 4.5 in the databook and Haku won't freeze from 20 meters away, even if he could freeze fast enough without a canon jutsu.

Sasori wouldn't necessarily start in his vulnerable real form and could just unseal an explosive tag to unfreeze himself long enough to summon his army, or use Iron Sand spam to beat Haku slowly. Bloodlusted Sasori would just hang back and not play around like he did with Chiyo. Puppet army, chakra enhanced Iron Sand, and fire lasers overwhelm Haku's defense while Sasori hangs out on a cloud in the sky where he can't be attacked besides through Haku's vulnerable teleportation. IC mindset Haku doesn't try to kill Sasori at first because he looks like a kid.

Your speed comparison isn't taking into account that Haku is a whole lot faster while transporting between his Ice Mirrors.

Spoiler

Blue: Haku's transporting speed is so fast, that all of Naruto's clones poofed at once; meaning they were all struck nearly at the same time.
Red: The water didn't move an inch, despite all of Haku's movements within the blue box.

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Conclusion: Haku's peak trasporting speed is near instant. Though, he can't continuously travel this fast for long.

Second, Sasori got outright blitzed from Sai [

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] with zero reaction, while Sai himself got blitzed from Haku [

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]. That say's something.

And yes, Haku can freeze the air within the surrounding area [

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]. I find it funny that you have to place Sasori in a bloodlusted mindstate where he's going all out using the 3rd Kazekage, his 100 puppet army, and himself simultaneously. Against Haku smh. But of course, Haku is going to hold back against him, because he's the only one whos conveniantly in character and is going to think Sasori is an innocent little kid. What a joke.

The dome has an open bottom and is useless as a defense because of Iron Sand. Even if his joints were frozen, Sasori's heart could just levitate out of the body. Haku has horrible stamina and would have to finish the fight immediately, but is slower. Haku's not precise, chakra heavy, or experienced enough to continually use any unnamed freezing technique on everything in Sasori's arsenal. Chiyo was hyped sannin-level and Sasori went easy on her, while she also knew his tricks. Potentially, Sasori could just have an invisible chakra thread pick up a poisoned senbon and fling it at Haku while he's distracted with failing to keep up with everything Sasori throws.

Iron sand doesn't travel underneath the ground, so I don't see your point. Haku transporting through his ice mirrors at his peak chakra capacity is a million times faster then Sasori. Haku is very precise; has

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with his senbons actually. Sasori's heart levitating out of his body is asking to get immediately pierced with senbons. He doesn't need to use "unnamed freezing techniques" on Sasori's entire arsenal because A) Sasori isn't using his entire arsenal at once, and B) Haku only needs to target Sasori's real body.

Sasori stomps fanfic Haku, and Zabuza won't even affect Sasori.

You mean out of character fanfic Sasori that can somehow use his entire arsenal at once? Right. The mere fact that you even proposed this against an opponent like Haku let's me know you have nothing.

Wood with a chakra system and a beating heart at the center Lol? Yes I know branches can freeze #SurvivorofIcestorm2007, but unless you can prove to me that Haku is making the air colder then around 0 F which is what it would need to be to achieve that kind of freezing than your point is moot. He makes cold air around his KKG.... Its basically like being in an ice rink, it gets cold. A branch isn't freezing solid never mind his thicker,bulkier joints bud.

Wank

Difference being it's not coated/infused with chakra... it's a hollow thin wood with a chakra system inside. The chakra system doesn't strenghten Sasori's body in the slightest. Sai's ink creation becomes a solid matter. Your point holds no weight.

Haku can instantly make it snow in a naturally warm invironment... that already tells me that he can make the air well below 32º F in a general area. However, wherever he pinpoints his jutsu, the air instantly freezes into ice. Oxygens freezing point is -361.8º F btw. I don't believe you can apply real world logic here, but you should get the point.

Zexion

 

[Zexion~]

Your speed comparison isn't taking into account that Haku is a whole lot faster while transporting between his Ice Mirrors.

Spoiler

Blue: Haku's transporting speed is so fast, that all of Naruto's clones poofed at once; meaning they were all struck nearly at the same time.
Red: The water didn't move an inch, despite all of Haku's movements within the blue box.

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Conclusion: Haku's peak trasporting speed is near instant. Though, he can't continuously travel this fast for long.

Second, Sasori got outright blitzed from Sai [

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] with zero reaction, while Sai himself got blitzed from Haku [

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]. That say's something.

And yes, Haku can freeze the air within the surrounding area [

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]. I find it funny that you have to place Sasori in a bloodlusted mindstate where he's going all out using the 3rd Kazekage, his 100 puppet army, and himself simultaneously. Against Haku smh. But of course, Haku is going to hold back against him, because he's the only one whos conveniantly in character and is going to think Sasori is an innocent little kid. What a joke.




Iron sand doesn't travel underneath the ground, so I don't see your point. Haku transporting through his ice mirrors at his peak chakra capacity is a million times faster then Sasori. Haku is very precise; has

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with his senbons actually. Sasori's heart levitating out of his body is asking to get immediately pierced with senbons. He doesn't need to use "unnamed freezing techniques" on Sasori's entire arsenal because A) Sasori isn't using his entire arsenal at once, and B) Haku only needs to target Sasori's real body.




You mean out of character fanfic Sasori that can somehow use his entire arsenal at once? Right. The mere fact that you even proposed this against an opponent like Haku let's me know you have nothing.



Difference being it's not coated/infused with chakra... it's a hollow thin wood with a chakra system inside. The chakra system doesn't strenghten Sasori's body in the slightest. Sai's ink creation becomes a solid matter. Your point holds no weight.

Haku can instantly make it snow in a naturally warm invironment... that already tells me that he can make the air well below 32º F in a general area. However, wherever he pinpoints his jutsu, the air instantly freezes into ice. Oxygens freezing point is -361.8º F btw. I don't believe you can apply real world logic here, but you should get the point.

Zexion

Lol except even a human couldn't withstand that temperature so we all know it doesn't cause the surroundings to get that cold. Instantly made it snow what? A few flakes? He can't even make ice unless there is precipitation in the air which he can't even cause as he won't be at such a high altitude. Foh with this logic because you and I both know that just ended it.

#Alhorford on your ass

 

[Veggie the Tormentor]

Your speed comparison isn't taking into account that Haku is a whole lot faster while transporting between his Ice Mirrors.

Spoiler

Blue: Haku's transporting speed is so fast, that all of Naruto's clones poofed at once; meaning they were all struck nearly at the same time.
Red: The water didn't move an inch, despite all of Haku's movements within the blue box.

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Conclusion: Haku's peak trasporting speed is near instant. Though, he can't continuously travel this fast for long.

Second, Sasori got outright blitzed from Sai [

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] with zero reaction, while Sai himself got blitzed from Haku [

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]. That say's something.

And yes, Haku can freeze the air within the surrounding area [

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]. I find it funny that you have to place Sasori in a bloodlusted mindstate where he's going all out using the 3rd Kazekage, his 100 puppet army, and himself simultaneously. Against Haku smh. But of course, Haku is going to hold back against him, because he's the only one whos conveniantly in character and is going to think Sasori is an innocent little kid. What a joke.




Iron sand doesn't travel underneath the ground, so I don't see your point. Haku transporting through his ice mirrors at his peak chakra capacity is a million times faster then Sasori. Haku is very precise; has

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with his senbons actually. Sasori's heart levitating out of his body is asking to get immediately pierced with senbons. He doesn't need to use "unnamed freezing techniques" on Sasori's entire arsenal because A) Sasori isn't using his entire arsenal at once, and B) Haku only needs to target Sasori's real body.




You mean out of character fanfic Sasori that can somehow use his entire arsenal at once? Right. The mere fact that you even proposed this against an opponent like Haku let's me know you have nothing.



Difference being it's not coated/infused with chakra... it's a hollow thin wood with a chakra system inside. The chakra system doesn't strenghten Sasori's body in the slightest. Sai's ink creation becomes a solid matter. Your point holds no weight.

Haku can instantly make it snow in a naturally warm invironment... that already tells me that he can make the air well below 32º F in a general area. However, wherever he pinpoints his jutsu, the air instantly freezes into ice. Oxygens freezing point is -361.8º F btw. I don't believe you can apply real world logic here, but you should get the point.

Zexion

I was considering that creating the mirrors would take down his speed, an instant initial speed blitz is his only way of winning, and IC he'd want to protect Zabuza who's getting killed in a million ways. Additionally, once he's in the air, his speed will be reduced dramatically.

Sai isn't Haku and has a different databook speed, Sasori had the security of a partner, Sasori was overconfident from immortality, Sasori didn't have his puppet body, and Sai surprise attacked.

Weellll, if you read my other post, you'd know that I placed Sasori in his initial Hiruko form, which would make all of the ice attacks you pointed out useless. I'm not understanding how senbon are getting passt Hiruko either.

Iron sand doesn't travel underneath the ground, so I don't see your point.

I kind of stopped reading here, if you don't mind. I skimmed "hollow thin wood", but recall Chakra Enhanced Strength hitting this wood. You conveniently provided a scan to make some serious argument, but forgot to mention where Haku's precision freezing ability is that he hasn't used on Sai, or anybody else.