[VS] hells memories mutton shot vs asura three-thousand worlds

[Tomato God]

If these two attacks clash head to head at close range which one over powers the other
Intent destroy
Distance close
Restrictions:haki

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

If these two attacks clash head to head at close range which one over powers the other
Intent destroy
Distance close
Restrictions:haki

Hells Memories is a Post TS technique

We haven't seen Ashura, or if Zoro now has stronger techniques

Basically Hells Memories buttrapes until we see Zoro's Ashura again

 

[Bogard]

Fictive moves are fictive.

Zoro's armament > Sanji's, so his fire won't scratch him whether Zoro attack or not. It couldn't scratch even base Vergo, let alone Tekkai Vergo

And Hell Memories is all about heat(stronger than diable jambe though i give you that), not destructive power. The destructive power of the mouton shot itself shouldn't increase at all even assuming the imaginary move actually exist, at least basing on the workings of Sanji's fire ability.

3000 world alone completely shit on Hell Memories in terms of Destructive Capacity(hell even Luffy's Elephant Gatling), so no need to add the completely fictive Ashura mystical effect into it

 

[Hexuze]

Lol Do we really have to make a thread about this? It's obvious who wins & it's already bad enough that you restricted haki since you know that Sanji's CoA is inferior to Zoro's. Zoro's destructive feats are still superior, haki or not. He wins. Dat fan fiction moves too lmao.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Fictive moves are fictive.

Zoro's armament > Sanji's, so his fire won't scratch him whether Zoro attack or not. It couldn't scratch even base Vergo, let alone Tekkai Vergo

And Hell Memories is all about heat(stronger than diable jambe though i give you that), not destructive power. The destructive power of the mouton shot itself shouldn't increase at all even assuming the imaginary move actually exist, at least basing on the workings of Sanji's fire ability.

3000 world alone completely shit on Hell Memories in terms of Destructive Capacity(hell even Luffy's Elephant Gatling), so no need to add the completely fictive Ashura mystical effect into it

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So you're saying Haki makes you fire proof? hahaha

Kinda pointless eating the Mera Mera no Mi, and it's kinda pointless for Sanji to even fight then isn't it?

Ashura is Zoro's equivelant of Sanji's Diable Jambe

Hells memories is a step further, so Zoro's still got something up his sleeve, but Whatever Zoro's still got to show> HM > Ashura > DJ

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

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Hells memories is a step further, so Zoro's still got something up his sleeve, but Whatever Zoro's still got to show> HM > Ashura > DJ

The irony is real.

 

[YellowFang]

So, this is between...

Sword Slash which could cut anything but Diamond...
Vs
A Kick that could BBQ the target with super heat...


I don't think Sanji can ever cancel out Zoro's slashes with just kicks ex. Haki usage...

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

The irony is real.

You never cease to annoy me, kid.

Besides, the irony in my statement is what?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

You never cease to annoy me, kid.

Besides, the irony in my statement is what?

You wank Croc more than anyone has ever wanked Zoro. Then there's also the part where you say lighting yourself on fire is more of a power up than tripling your strength.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

You wank Croc more than anyone has ever wanked Zoro. Then there's also the part where you say lighting yourself on fire is more of a power up than tripling your strength.

You think Sanji's second powerup is weaker than Zoro's first powerup?

Right. And I wank Crocodile more than you wank Zoro?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

You think Sanji's second powerup is weaker than Zoro's first powerup?

Right. And I wank Crocodile more than you wank Zoro?

Let me just remind you and the people of this section that you believe Croc can beat Luffy. Ashura is more impressive than Hells Memories, which is pretty much just a full body DJ.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Let me just remind you and the people of this section that you believe Croc can beat Luffy. Ashura is more impressive than Hells Memories, which is pretty much just a full body DJ.

I never said that. I said he's a good match for G2 and G3 Luffy based upon observations from the Marineford War.

Ashura is more impressive than Hells memories? You made an observation based on one fight. two panels. wow.

Full body DJ (and hotter than DJ), because it's invoked emotionally Sanji also becomes more aggressive. Even being close to him is dangerous.

P.S. Fire from his kicks can consume a target completely

May I also point out Ashura is a single attack whereas Hells Memories is a full blown powerup

As I said

Zoro's 2nd stage powerup > Hells memories > Ashura > Diable Jambe

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I never said that. I said he's a good match for G2 and G3 Luffy based upon observations from the Marineford War.

Ashura is more impressive than Hells memories? You made an observation based on one fight. two panels. wow.

Full body DJ (and hotter than DJ), because it's invoked emotionally Sanji also becomes more aggressive. Even being close to him is dangerous.

P.S. Fire from his kicks can consume a target completely

May I also point out Ashura is a single attack whereas Hells Memories is a full blown powerup

As I said

Zoro's 2nd stage powerup > Hells memories > Ashura > Diable Jambe

You ranked Croc above Luffy on a list a few days ago. Let me ask you this: what if Zoro doesn't have a second stage power up? Would HM still be more impressive?

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

You ranked Croc above Luffy on a list a few days ago. Let me ask you this: what if Zoro doesn't have a second stage power up? Would HM still be more impressive?

HM would still be more impressive. Zoro will either have a second stage powerup or a prolongued use of Ashura

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

HM would still be more impressive. Zoro will either have a second stage powerup or a prolongued use of Ashura

Prolonged use of Ashura is still Ashura. HM is Sanji lighting himself on fire while Ashura increases Zoro's strength threefold, it makes no sense for the former to be the stronger power up.

 

[Bogard]

Based on feats, 3000 worlds complete shit on Hell Memories, let alone Ashura. It's Sanji who should step up his game on par with Zoro's base moves, not the contrary

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Prolonged use of Ashura is still Ashura. HM is Sanji lighting himself on fire while Ashura increases Zoro's strength threefold, it makes no sense for the former to be the stronger power up.

I literally just said the fire isn't ordinary and due to emotional invocation Sanji is far more physically capable. His attacks completely envelope his targets

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This means he has increased all of his destructive capacity, range and the damage he deals all one in the same. I wish you good luck arguing with this panel, which displays ALL the above characteristics.

It makes sense as it's a further development for Sanji which overcomes his pre skip state by some clear margin. Same should be the case for Zoro. So as I said for the fourth time

New powerup > Hells Memories > Ashura > Diable Jambe

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

Why invent moves when the actual moves already show what tech wins, 3000worlds is more destructive and thats that we dont even know if there is an Ashura version of it but goimg with the fact that no Ashura attack has ever been a replication of a santoryu or the other two' attacks its highly likely that Oda gives Ashura its own attacks not using it to Augment thoae shown in the other wields.