Kakashi vs Deidara

[Zexion~]

C2 are homing, thus get caught easier than C1.

.-. Please remind me when Sasuke was able to defuse them coming at him full speed?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

.-. Please remind me when Sasuke was able to defuse them coming at him full speed?

Did sasuke even make the attempt? Last I checked he was testing his own theories to be bothered with something like that.

 

[Zexion~]

Did sasuke even make the attempt? Last I checked he was testing his own theories to be bothered with something like that.

No he didn't make the attempt because it would have gotten him annihilated.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No he didn't make the attempt because it would have gotten him annihilated.

Thats some pretty horrible logic considering he already out ran the explosion of one:

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And out maneuvered another:

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So yeah, not attempting=/= not being able to as I already explained(and he explained later). He took the hit to test his theories.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Both of those are specific jutsu .-.

That show he's more than capable of manipulating raiton however he pleases.

This is like saying Kisame can't use Suijinheki because he was never shown on panel doing it. It's ridiculous.

 

[maniaoqan]

This is actually not so cut and dry, whats his counter to C2? He has no long range raiton really unless you think his dog can fly upwards Lol.

Deidara wins

He can always throw kunai/shuriken with Raiton chakra.

 

[Selan]

Kakashi dashes with Raikiri and blitzes Deidara piercing his heart.

 

[Zexion~]

Thats some pretty horrible logic considering he already out ran the explosion of one:

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And out maneuvered another:

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So yeah, not attempting=/= not being able to as I already explained(and he explained later). He took the hit to test his theories.

Only awful logic here is you, comparing dodging an attack to sitting there and aiming a kunai for it is two totally different things, Deidara can still plant the mines btw so Kakashi would have to look out for those as well.

That show he's more than capable of manipulating raiton however he pleases.

This is like saying Kisame can't use Suijinheki because he was never shown on panel doing it. It's ridiculous.

Why would he be able to? If he's never shown the jutsu he can't use it Lol? Only way he could be credited on having it is if Kakashi copied him and he stated so in the first fight, but that wasn't the case as I just read it over. So no he doesn't have that feat?

Nor does Kakashi have the ability to merely make any raiton shape he wants when both of those are specific jutsu? Like saying Itachi can make any Katon he wants .-. This isn't avatar you can't bend elements into whatever you want.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Only awful logic here is you, comparing dodging an attack to sitting there and aiming a kunai for it is two totally different things, Deidara can still plant the mines btw so Kakashi would have to look out for those as well.

If sasuke is fast enough to dodge not only the bird but the explosion it causes, then him even attempting to hit them with lightning based attacks is of no consequence to him since:
a) if he fcks up he can still dodge the bird
b) if he fcks that up and dosen't dodge the bird he can still outrun the explosion.

They pose 0 threat to him since they can't touch him, so in no way shape or form can they "annihilate" him.

And no deidara can't drop bombs without a clone and if he attempts to do so kakashi will intercept him. They both have hiding like mole.

 

[Zexion~]

If sasuke is fast enough to dodge not only the bird but the explosion it causes, then him even attempting to hit them with lightning based attacks is of no consequence to him since:
a) if he fcks up he can still dodge the bird
b) if he fcks that up and dosen't dodge the bird he can still outrun the explosion.

They pose 0 threat to him since they can't touch him, so in no way shape or form can they "annihilate" him.

And no deidara can't drop bombs without a clone and if he attempts to do so kakashi will intercept him. They both have hiding like mole.

Lol and when he goes underground he detonates that clone .-. Ending Kakashi in the process

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol and when he goes underground he detonates that clone .-. Ending Kakashi in the process

So you're just gonna look over everything else I wrote?

How would deidara (real one) know when kakashi intercepted his clone? the clone detonating himself takes time it dosen't have.

 

[Zexion~]

So you're just gonna look over everything else I wrote?

How would deidara (real one) know when kakashi intercepted his clone? the clone detonating himself takes time it dosen't have.

Because all of it's moot when the mines are there, the whole point is that the opponent has to look out for both, he can see where they are, but if Sasuke couldn't just chidori spear the missile coming at him, and it was shown that he couldn't avoid both of them, Kakashi's not throwing a kunai at it, even if he does Deidara fires off another one immediately ending him.

The real Deidara is above .-. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what Kakashi is going to do, and the explosion is pretty large

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It was going to kill all of them

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Because all of it's moot when the mines are there, the whole point is that the opponent has to look out for both, he can see where they are, but if Sasuke couldn't just chidori spear the missile coming at him, and it was shown that he couldn't avoid both of them, Kakashi's not throwing a kunai at it, even if he does Deidara fires off another one immediately ending him.

@bold I already explained why that's incorrect. He did what he did(dodge c2 bird/outspeed bird's explosion) while mines we're in place. Sasuke deciding not to spear them dosen't mean he couldn't. There's nothing stopping kakashi from picking them off since their guided to him.

The real Deidara is above .-. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what Kakashi is going to do, and the explosion is pretty large

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It was going to kill all of them

The real Deidara can't see an underground kakashi hence why I asked the question. Kakashi being outside of his los isn't reason enough for him to blow up his own clone since that would in turn blow up the mines it's carrying. The deidara clone gets raikiri'd thus stopping the explosion. Which is why I said it dosen't have enough time for self detonation.

 

[Zexion~]

@bold I already explained why that's incorrect. He did what he did(dodge c2 bird/outspeed bird's explosion) while mines we're in place. Sasuke deciding not to spear them dosen't mean he couldn't. There's nothing stopping kakashi from picking them off since their guided to him.





The real Deidara can't see an underground kakashi hence why I asked the question. Kakashi being outside of his los isn't reason enough for him to blow up his own clone since that would in turn blow up the mines it's carrying. The deidara clone gets raikiri'd thus stopping the explosion. Which is why I said it dosen't have enough time for self detonation.

Lol god that last part is so dumb, Deidara isn't an idiot

>Clone is underground

>Kakashi is underground

---------------->He's going to blow up his clone, taking out Kakashi in the process as its a perfect opportunity to do so, mines won't be needed so it doesn't matter, not to mention he has all those he can blow up as well.

Lol, Kakashi isn't striking a speeding missile with the kunai while avoiding mines Lol.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Kakashi will probably be pretty much in same boat as Sasuke. Or not. Kakashi isn't as versatile with raiton as Sasuke.

They both die. Kakashi can't escape C0 that's for sure.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol god that last part is so dumb, Deidara isn't an idiot

never said he was.

>Clone is underground

>Kakashi is underground

I'm guessing you didn't see or understand what I wrote.
Kakashi being outside his los=/=kakashi being underground. Sasuke escaped his line of sight many times without ever actually going under.

---------------->He's going to blow up his clone, taking out Kakashi in the process as its a perfect opportunity to do so,

Because kakashi isn't a clone user right?

mines won't be needed so it doesn't matter, not to mention he has all those he can blow up as well.

He has 0 control over when or how the mines blow.

Lol, Kakashi isn't striking a speeding missile with the kunai while avoiding mines Lol.

deidara can only shoot 1 at a time from the mouth of c2 Garuda. So its either or not both.

 

[Zexion~]

never said he was.

I'm guessing you didn't see or understand what I wrote.
Kakashi being outside his los=/=kakashi being underground. Sasuke escaped his line of sight many times without ever actually going under.

No idea what the hell you're talking about, I was talking about him going underground.

Because kakashi isn't a clone user right?

You never said anything about a clone, but Deidara's clone's explosion would reach the ground anyways, not to mention he can just counter the clone with the mines.

He has 0 control over when or how the mines blow.

Not that hard to throw it at Kakashi, if it misses it still would explode right next to him as they're in a confined space underground.

deidara can only shoot 1 at a time from the mouth of c2 Garuda. So its either or not both.

Def not called C4 Garuda, Yes it can but Deidara can also throw some from his own hands

 

[Oblivionx]

Same as sasuke or may be even easier as kakashi has a whole lot more ov experience, clones and MS etc...! i don't know if dogs can be reverse summoned like dat snake but in theory they should be...! so kakashi takes it

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No idea what the hell you're talking about, I was talking about him going underground.

and I said how would he know kakashi is underground. Escaping deidaras line of sight isn't going under.

You never said anything about a clone

I didn't think that would be necessary given kakashi's clone based style.

but Deidara's clone's explosion would reach the ground anyways, not to mention he can just counter the clone with the mines.

a) I doubt an underground detonation is catching kakashi aboveground.
b)not only does his sharingan see chakra (thus the mines) but the technique itself allows for awareness of around you and above via magnetism.

Not that hard to throw it at Kakashi, if it misses it still would explode right next to him as they're in a confined space underground.

@bold I doubt there's enough space for throwing anything based on how hiding like mole works.

Def not called C4 Garuda, Yes it can but Deidara can also throw some from his own hands

U known what I'm talking about.
C1 at best.

 

[Made in Heaven]

With kamui restricted, deidara can fly, so he wins mid diff