[VS] Kakuzu Versus Hokage (Indiviually)

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why did everybody just dislike this post?

They forever on the D when it comes to Kakuzu Lol


Notice how they never put up arguments though :rolleyes:


He beats Tsunade and they can't accept that.
 

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Kakuzu doesn't have the strength to put Tsunade down. :rolleyes:

Dude gets molly whopped by all the Sannin.
 

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If Hiruzen combined his katon + fuuton, how large would the resulting collaboration be? PawsX proved that all five elements only spanned the width of a boss summon in and I feel that Kakuzu's katon and fuuton attacks span that range. I'm bad at scaling arguments though. Hiruzen's jutsus took a long time to increase in AoE unlike Kakuzu's jutsus which increased in AoE nigh instantly.

Seeing this, I can't help but disagree Cyborg. Kakuzu's jutsu initially expand outwards, whereas Hiruzen's don't, but the execution and jutsu speed of his elemental barrage could be said to be quicker then that or close enough to make the different negligible. to Kakuzu's own jutsu.

I mean, Hiruzen managed to intercept the barrage and match it in terms of strength, despite the Buddha using the jutsu first, before it overwhelmed the Alliance. I wouldn't call it slow or attribute length to the actual duration of time it takes to expand and cover a distance.
 

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Hiruzen is what Kakuzu would be if he wasn't fodder.

If Hiruzen combined his katon + fuuton, how large would the resulting collaboration be? PawsX proved that all five elements only spanned the width of a boss summon in and I feel that Kakuzu's katon and fuuton attacks span that range. I'm bad at scaling arguments though. Hiruzen's jutsus took a long time to increase in AoE unlike Kakuzu's jutsus which increased in AoE nigh instantly.

No they don't. Why would they? Why do you think this? Look at the Kakuzu vs. Kakashi fight, those techniques only reached a certain point before expanding and exploding. Hiruzen was just aiming to stalemate Spiral Zetsu's buddha with attacks.

His collaboration would be much bigger than Kakuzu's techs which were barely the size of the trees they were fighting around. Hiruzen's jutsus made everyone look like ants.

Hiruzen's execution speed far surpasses Kakuzu's, and his jutsus were fast enough to intercept the buddha's after said buddha shot out those techniques. It happened in only one panel too. Slow ass team ten easily outsped Kakuzu's katon.
 
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Lol....threads will do fine :|

Nah mang he doesn't
Threads will get him tossed around, they aren't strong enough to out muscle Tsunade bro.
kakuzu beats Tsunade w/0 even using offensive elements

So he beats her with Domu and threads? Is that what you're trying to say? You can log of if you are, not gonna entertain that.
 

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Threads will get him tossed around, they aren't strong enough to out muscle Tsunade bro.


So he beats her with Domu and threads? Is that what you're trying to say? You can log of if you are, not gonna entertain that.

Tsunade has 837 arms & can levitate to counteract losing her footing when she is yanked off the ground & loses her leverage?

humoring U } tossing around kakuzu does what exactly?
 

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Tsunade has 837 arms & can levitate to counteract losing her footing when she is yanked off the ground & loses her leverage?

humoring U } tossing around kakuzu does what exactly?

Using his threads offensively like that would take a good deal of skill and timing that a shinobi of Tsunade's level won't give him.Assuming you're going with Kakuzu sending a limb underground. Otherwise, I don't see how he'll get them off on Tsunade. Tossing him around if he tries to rip her heart out or restrain her.
 

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He can only beat Tsunade.
Lol So many morons in this thread...I can't believe they think Domu is gonna do shit against Minato.
Appearently Kakuzu has the reaction time to activate Domu in time now days? PLEASE Lol Minato outright Blitz him.
Plus Tobirama wins when Minato loses? YEAH RIGHT Lol
 
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Threads will get him tossed around, they aren't strong enough to out muscle Tsunade bro.


So he beats her with Domu and threads? Is that what you're trying to say? You can log of if you are, not gonna entertain that.

Lol what? How will he get tossed around?

-First off the more she tugs the more threads are pulled out anyways as they are nigh unlimited within his body.

-Second he doesn't even really need to grab her hands, he can aim straight for the heart, at close enough range they would easily catch her Lol which sadly she needs to be at such a range in order to even touch Kakuzu.

Even when at a distance the moment she tries to avoid either a jutsu or the threads themselves she leaves herself open to exactly what happened to Kakashi, except she's slower. She can't pull when being slammed to the ground, nor can she even effectively pull Kakuzu if he's close to her (because you know not enough distance to get an acceleration).

If she does somehow miraculously manage to pull he can just detach his arm and with her still being effectively tied, proceed to rip out her heart with another batch of threads from the other arm Lol

You all do realize that Kakuzu's Katon is specifically stronger when combined with fuuton than normal Katons would right?
 
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Assuming you're going with Kakuzu sending a limb underground. Otherwise, I don't see how he'll get them off on Tsunade. Tossing him around if he tries to rip her heart out or restrain her.

no, not the scene where pis kakuzu sends out 2 threads & gets them cut by chakra scalpel then blitzed by Tsunade, buzzing off of plot armor & story relevance


no, im talking about ''long rang' mode'', A.K.A. ''rape mode'' where, since elements are not in use he makes 859 threads sends half of them into Tsunades abdominal cavity & between her cshoulder blades wheres she can't even reach & the other hatf at her arm & legs & yanks her into mid air, where she can do nothing but flail like a moth in a web, bleed out, & get her heart jacked... U know talkin bout feats?


what does tossing him around accomplish? he can split into five & 2 parts can fly.

does she have byakugan & bansho tennin too?
 

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WHy the **** is Baku a factor in VS Danzo when Katon negs it?
 

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I honestly seem him losing to all of them except Hiruzen (Since he's Old + Alive) and Tsunade (Which is a relatively even fight, I've seen SPT beat a Kakuzu in a debate using her)​
 

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Tsunade beats him high diff.

She regenerates from his attacks. And those threads put him at a disadvantage when it comes to Tsunade, she easily cuts through them or she pulls him straight to her..
 

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I honestly seem him losing to all of them except Hiruzen (Since he's Old + Alive) and Tsunade (Which is a relatively even fight, I've seen SPT beat a Kakuzu in a debate using her)​

We always used to debate, pretty sure she VM'd me or PM'd me once and said Kakuzu wins Lol I might just have to go look for it.

Tsunade beats him high diff.

She regenerates from his attacks. And those threads put him at a disadvantage when it comes to Tsunade, she easily cuts through them or she pulls him straight to her..

Because Tsunade with the slower hand speed is going to slice through them with a weaker technique while Kakashi could not? Lol
 

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Lol what? How will he get tossed around?

-First off the more she tugs the more threads are pulled out anyways as they are nigh unlimited within his body.

-Second he doesn't even really need to grab her hands, he can aim straight for the heart, at close enough range they would easily catch her Lol which sadly she needs to be at such a range in order to even touch Kakuzu.
She tugs them clear out of her chest if Kakuzu manages to get that far. Kakuzu's threads lack the strength to restrain someone of Tsunade's physical ability, think of Kisame being restrained and then breaking out of Mokuton. But far, far quicker if she's ever securely held down.

Kakuzu capturing a worn out Kakashi, one who a chapter earlier said , doesn't help you all that much. Kakuzu's not going to be attacking Tsunade with the threads, without the latter noticing or reacting. They aren't that fast. They come at her? She grabs hold of them and drags Kakuzu over to her.
In the off chance she is restrained or more likely, momentarily caught off guard, Kakuzu has only shown to take hearts out from his victims with his hand itself[ - ]. Implying getting close. Which leads him to being near Tsunade, and getting a fist driven through his chest. Or if he activates Domu, Tsunade being freed from his attacks.


Even when at a distance the moment she tries to avoid either a jutsu the threads themselves she leaves herself open to exactly what happened to Kakashi, except she's slower she can't pull when being slammed to the ground, nor can she even effectively pull Kakuzu if he's close to her.
I mean, Kakashi was nearing his limit/exhausting himself by that point. Weakened Kakashi=/= 100% Kakashi in terms of speed. If she's slammed to the ground, quite literally nothing happens to her. , albeit after some moments, she ripped it apart, pulled it out, . Kakuzu's threads aren't leaving her jarring or defenseless. The second she hits the ground or the threads wrap around her, Kakuzu is being pulled over for a fist full.


If she does somehow miraculously manage to pull he can just detach his arm and with her still being effectively tied, proceed to rip out her heart with another batch of threads from the other arm Lol

You all do realize that Kakuzu's Katon is specifically stronger when combined with fuuton than normal Katons would right?

The katon argument is irrelevant unless Kakuzu is going for a victory via stamina. Tsunade is not being tied down, she snaps out of the threads easily. Kakuzu coming at her with one less limb ends same as the earlier scenario would, getting punched hard. If Domu is activated? Thrown back some, and if Katsuyu is out there, hit by acid.
 

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no, not the scene where pis kakuzu sends out 2 threads & gets them cut by chakra scalpel then blitzed by Tsunade, buzzing off of plot armor & story relevance


no, im talking about ''long rang' mode'', A.K.A. ''rape mode'' where, since elements are not in use he makes 859 threads sends half of them into Tsunades abdominal cavity & between her cshoulder blades wheres she can't even reach & the other hatf at her arm & legs & yanks her into mid air, where she can do nothing but flail like a moth in a web, bleed out, & get her heart jacked... U know talkin bout feats?


what does tossing him around accomplish? he can split into five & 2 parts can fly.

does she have byakugan & bansho tennin too?

Did your mother drink when she was pregnant, sorry but this question is suddenly far more important then replying to the garbage above.
 

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We always used to debate, pretty sure she VM'd me or PM'd me once and said Kakuzu wins Lol I might just have to go look for it.



Because Tsunade with the slower hand speed is going to slice through them with a weaker technique while Kakashi could not? Lol

You still dont get it. Tsunade has monstrous strenght no way Kakuzu throws her down to the floor like he did to Kakashi.
 
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