Who would have won the chunin exams?

[Darth Uchiha]

Too bad most of Naruto's big victories, pre-fourth shinobi war, were because his opponent was holding back or was nerfed -_-.

Gaara could have stomped Naruto long before he stood a chance by summoning gamabunta, even having Rasengan. Gaara would have owned Sasuke long before Sasuke could have landed a hit on him. Plot shields lifted, part 1 Gaara stomps.

Then why didn't he? Plot shield is a pretty crappy excuse, if you want to use it, virtually every fight in any fictional verse, ever, end the way they do because of plot shield.

 

[Exaar]

Then why didn't he? Plot shield is a pretty crappy excuse, if you want to use it, virtually every fight in any fictional verse, ever, end the way they do because of plot shield.

But it was pretty much a plot shield.

It was pretty funny seeing as how Naruto was being encased in Sand coffin (his his hand no where near his face) he magically was able to move him arm into position for him to take blood from his mouth and use summing before Gaara could completely encase him and crush him.

Half of naruto's head was covered instantly with his hand no where near his mouth (bottom page)

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The very next scan he had some how moved his arm to his face while being gripped by Gaara's sand. Not only should naruto of not been able to move his arm, He shouldn't of had anywhere near the time to set up summoning Jutsu

What should of happened is what happened here, naruto should of been encased before he could even react, let alone slowly raise his arm and use summoning

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[Darth Uchiha]

But it was pretty much a plot shield.

It was pretty funny seeing as how Naruto was being encased in Sand coffin (his his hand no where near his face) he magically was able to move him arm into position for him to take blood from his mouth and use summing before Gaara could complete encase him and crush him.

Half of naruto's head was covered instantly with his hand no where near his mouth (bottom page)

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The very next scan he had some how moved his arm to his face while being gripped by Gaara's sand. Not only should naruto of not been able to move his arm, He shouldn't of had anywhere near the time to set up summoning Jutsu

What should of happened is what happened here, naruto should of been encased before he could even react, let alone slowly raise his arm and use summoning

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Oh well, so? Obi-Wan shouldn't have lost to Anakin, Sasuke shouldn't have survived the Deidara fight, every fictional battle is because of plot shied.

 

[Exaar]

Oh well, so? Obi-Wan shouldn't have lost to Anakin, Sasuke shouldn't have survived the Deidara fight, every fictional battle is because of plot shied.

In hypothetical battles such as this, Plot shield deson't exist, So Naruto defeating Gaara in the manga means shit, since without the plot shield he would never have escaped sand coffin nor would be able to.

 

[SatanicGod]

Yet he surprised Neji with that underground attack, which was not achieved through brute force attacks alone. He wasn't that stupid.

Actually it was a mix of brute force and plot, as another user pointed out, how tf did he dig underground without moving the dirt around noticeably and keeping the clone body motionless... And not a single person notices this action take place (that includes proctors, spectators, AND the Hokage and Kazekage) with his bare hands at that...

 

[Da Best Ever]

Gaara defeated the strongest Sound 5 member Kimimaro who is like high jounin/Low Kage

Kimimaro was virtually already dead as stated by kabuto saying kimi was willing himself to fight. That means he was at his weakest point. Also kimimaro died just as he was about to kill gaara with his bone spear... Gaara didn't beat him.

 

[SatanicGod]

Naruto, considering he beat Gaara, who beat Sasuke.

Ahhh ABC logic huh... I guess next thing you'll say is that Sakura>Sasuke since she landed a hit on Kaguya while Sasuke did not Lol

 

[Da Best Ever]

Then why didn't he? Plot shield is a pretty crappy excuse, if you want to use it, virtually every fight in any fictional verse, ever, end the way they do because of plot shield.

No only main characters have plot shield

 

[Da Best Ever]

Ahhh ABC logic huh... I guess next thing you'll say is that Sakura>Sasuke since she landed a hit on Kaguya while Sasuke did not Lol

Sasuke sealed her

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Ahhh ABC logic huh... I guess next thing you'll say is that Sakura>Sasuke since she landed a hit on Kaguya while Sasuke did not Lol

Had Saukra single handedly killed Kaguya that logic would apply. Naruto singlehandedly defeated Gaara, whereas Gaara singlehandedly defeated Sasuke, that's the difference.

 

[SatanicGod]

Had Saukra single handedly killed Kaguya that logic would apply. Naruto singlehandedly defeated Gaara, whereas Gaara singlehandedly defeated Sasuke, that's the difference.

Naruto used Gamabunta
Gaara used Shukaku (Gaara himself was getting stomped by Sasuke)

Also, had it not been for the weakness that all Naruto had to do was WAKE Gaara up, Shukaku would've wrecked

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Naruto used Gamabunta
Gaara used Shukaku (Gaara himself was getting stomped by Sasuke)

And? Summons and tailed beast tend to fall under a character's set of abilities, no matter how you Sasuke fans try to deny it. And, yeah, Sasuke was winning for a while...then Gaara used a small amount of tailed beast power and kicked his ass. Naruto barely used Kurama and still managed to defeat a fully transformed Shukaku.

 

[BlueMeteor]

Shinos bugs would have murked

 

[Ambivalence]

The nerve on some people here... . The only way for Sasuke to be above Naruto would be if Gamabunta was restricted, meaning that an unrestricted Naruto would be the winner of the CE, period. It goes like this:

Naruto (Gamabunta)>Gaara (Shukaku)>>Sasuke
Sasuke>Naruto (Gamabunta restricted)>Gaara (Shukaku restricted)

 

[Floydical]

Then why didn't he? Plot shield is a pretty crappy excuse, if you want to use it, virtually every fight in any fictional verse, ever, end the way they do because of plot shield.

If you'd read my post, you'd know. Gaara was holding back because he wanted Naruto to fight him seriously. He was toying with Naruto while messing with his mind. If he wanted to, he could have gone total beast mode on Naruto (literally and figuratively) and killed him in seconds.

The nerve on some people here... . The only way for Sasuke to be above Naruto would be if Gamabunta was restricted, meaning that an unrestricted Naruto would be the winner of the CE, period. It goes like this:

Naruto (Gamabunta)>Gaara (Shukaku)>>Sasuke
Sasuke>Naruto (Gamabunta restricted)>Gaara (Shukaku restricted)

Non restricted you're right, but restricted you're totally wrong. Gaara (shukaku restricted)>>Sasuke>Naruto (Gamabunta restricted).

As I keep defending here, Gaara was totally holding back on all these guys. He went full camp mode vs. Sasuke in order to summon Shukaku. He could sand coffin any of their asses as long as he can touch them. His defense is impenetrable and he has insane offense not even counting sand coffin.... I mean have people forgotten how strong he was in Part 1? Sasuke is not fast enough to rival a 4th or 5th gate Lee.

 

[Amberleaf]

It would have been either Gaara or Naruto. Sasuke was about done for when Naruto came to help.(from what I remember) Also, are they even allowed to use full out tailed beast mode in the exam?... I mean they are pretty large and all of those people would have to get out of the way XD Since Naruto beat Gaara in the end though, he would have won probably. If Naruto was not allowed to summon during exams and Gaara couldn't use the full tail beast mode, then Gaara would have won though.

 

[Ambivalence]

As I keep defending here, Gaara was totally holding back on all these guys. He went full camp mode vs. Sasuke in order to summon Shukaku. He could sand coffin any of their asses as long as he can touch them. His defense is impenetrable and he has insane offense not even counting sand coffin.... I mean have people forgotten how strong he was in Part 1?

I don't agree. ''Holding back'' is generally not a good argument unless outright stated or shown. Berserk Gaara was ''toying'' with Naruto because he was just that - berserk, not thinking, wanting to kill. It has nothing to do with him holding back. Gaara was camping against Sasuke because he saw that none of his counter-attacks were working, and that his speed was too much to handle without an omnidirectional defense.

Would Sand Coffin even manage to encase KN1 Naruto because of his cloak, considering Kurama chakra feats like these [

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]? How will it even catch them in the first place, when both have more than the needed reactions to avoid it, Naruto has clones for fake-outs and Sasuke can just fly? How will Gaara even react and defend to the speed VoTE 1 Naruto and Sasuke were capable of? This is what happened when he got in CQC range with Kimimaro:

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3. 2T CE Sasuke was shown to be able to easily

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] just for this kind of situation or a ranged attack.

Sasuke is not fast enough to rival a 4th or 5th gate Lee.

Gaara was getting absolutely destroyed against 5th Gate Lee, don't know what that proves. Lee's type of damage is also blunt and heavily relying on that final thrust to the ground, which Gaara cushioned, while Chidori is piercing. Gaara was basically just as damaged

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, even though a Chidori obviously can't compare to 5th Gate, not to mention that he had to be carried for a while by Kankurou and Temari after he took the blow.

Anyway, the biggest threat Naruto and Sasuke are facing is Ryuusa Bakuryu, which I argued earlier that they'll just beat Gaara before he attempts it, or interrupt and pressure him in close range so that he wouldn't do the rather large number of seals that technique required at that time.

 

[SatanicGod]

And? Summons and tailed beast tend to fall under a character's set of abilities, no matter how you Sasuke fans try to deny it. And, yeah, Sasuke was winning for a while...then Gaara used a small amount of tailed beast power and kicked his ass. Naruto barely used Kurama and still managed to defeat a fully transformed Shukaku.

He didn't defeat Shukaku, he woke Gaara up, there's a difference, and if I really have to tell you the difference between waking up a host and defeating a Biju, then this friendly discussion is over

 

[Lost Woods Denizen]

The OP is difficult to answer because it is taking characters and situations from different time periods and putting them against one another. I would like to make an adjustment and answer based on that.

Who would have won the chuunin exams if Orochimaru did not attack the leaf until after the exams were done? This is the question that I think should be answered. With that said, Neji, Shikamaru, and Kankuro are already eliminated, and the only contenders left are Gaara and Sasuke (currently fighting), Naruto, Temari, and Shino.

If the fight with Sasuke and Gaara continued I believe that Gaara would have defeated Sasuke either due to referee interference or death, because the chidori was Sasuke's trump card for the match. Even post match he demonstrated no other new techniques, barring the curse seal enhanced chidori, and even that was not enough to defeat Gaara. Gaara would have eventually beaten Sasuke because of his higher chakra levels (including bijuu chakra), sand techniques and transformations (wind enhanced sand shuriken used against Naruto, partial sand transformation, etc.), and overall willingness to murder in general. Sasuke had maybe two more usages of chidori in him, and this entailed using the curse seal. That would have caused the match to be interrupted by Kakashi immediately. Gaara is not that low level of a ninja to fall for the same technique twice. The match was lost the moment chidori did not work.

The next match would have undoubtedly been between Naruto and Shino, simply due to the tournament bracket system. Though Shino at the time was OVERALL a better ninja than Naruto, this would have been a match of attrition: waves of chakra depleting insects against waves of Naruto clones. If Shino drained too much of Naruto's chakra, Naruto would have resorted to kyuubi chakra (later in the story shown to be too much for the insects to handle), but even before this situation Naruto would have swamped Shino with clones, and due to his lack of close-range proficiency at the time, Shino would have fallen to Naruto after a hard fought match.

Gaara vs Temari would have been finished before it even began. Gaara would not even be looking at Temari, but rather grinning maniacally at Naruto (and perhaps shaking/twitching in place due to his murderous insanity) and Temari would have instantly shouted out "I forfeit!" Do not judge her, as there was still a war to be fought after and it would make no sense tiring herself out, and even if there was no war, she KNEW she could not defeat her brother anyway. No one else in the village besides the kazekage could.

The final match comes down to Naruto and Gaara, and the winner is Gaara. Yes, Naruto defeated him in the manga, but those were under different circumstances. In the manga Naruto had too many reasons why he could not AFFORD to lose. Sakura would have died, Sasuke would have died, the ichibi would have ravaged the village..oh, and HE would have also been killed. In the exams the match would have gone worse than Sasuke's. Naruto would start off with his clones, Gaara would counter with sand shuriken. None of Naruto's attacks would get past the shield of sand due to his inferior speed (Naruto was only able to land a hit on Gaara because the shield of sand was concentrated into the partial transformation, and therefore not automatic) and summoning Gama Bunta was out of the question in such a small field. As shown in the manga, Gaara would have eventually gotten a sand tendril around Naruto and be in a position to crush him. The match would be ended through referee interference, teacher interference, or murder.

I believe that Gaara would have been the ultimate winner of the chunin exams. What do you think?

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

sasuke.

he beat gaara no diff.

soloed a plot + kyuubi > 1 tailed chakra powered naruto with shadow clones.

even kimimaro cant beat that