Does Naruto still have 6th paths sage mode

[Adam Driver]

You say this for Naruto,yet for Sasuke in the new chapter you were acting as if it was really bad that the blonde boy got away from. Perhaps he too was nerfed? or let him get away?

Lol why do you care what I think? Move along

 

[ANiMUS]

None of them have access to rikudo, chakra? They do in a sense. All chakra came from shinju. After eating the fruit, kaguya's chakra went to her sons and hogoromo distributed his chakra to all of mankind. This is why he is able to summon those who have died.

Chakra can be permanently given to another via ninshu and it can also be permanently taken as shown with the gold and silver brothers and when naruto acquired KCM. Hogoromo gave part of his chakra permanently to mankind, if he didn't they would need to go back to him for a refill every time they ran out.

Like the above hogoromo permanently gave his chakra to naruto and sasuke and the bijuu also permanently gave naruto part of their chakra. This explains naruto being able to fly and also how powerful he is in the last movie. I don't believe BSM(without any rikudo chakra) naruto can tank a moon slicing attack U_U. Don't get me wrong, naruto was in BSM but he still had RSM power in that form.

In addition to what I have mentioned, the DB itself says that RSM came from the sage, it makes no mention of the chakra of the bijuu as a requirement. Hogoromo himself has the mode both before and after he became a jinchuriki.

Oh lets see where to start

I never said that chakra can't be given permanently. In fact i explicity said that the chakra given by the sage never goes away, but it is not a portion in which ppl can be classified as utilizing rikudou chakra.

RM is what Hagoromo gave Naruto and I never said that he didn't. This however is also RSM

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The TSB are a sign of someone having the same power as the SoSP.(Body containing all natures) That would require having the all bijuu chakras. Well having enough to activate the mode anyway. (Naruto does have all bijuu chakras they are just not at a level in which they can be utilized)

As far as Gin and Kin they actually have a piece of Kurama within them. That piece will continually generate chakra because Kurama continually generates chakra and he is chakra. (it is like they have a non sentient Kurama within them) Naruto however was just given chakra. The same way that one human gives chakra to another.

 

[Airphenom]

Of course he still has it, why would he not. Its dumb to believe that he doesnt have it, simply based on the last... He likely didnt have it in the last because the movie was done before the design for RSM was complete

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Lol why do you care what I think? Move along

Just pointing out your double standards, and got the weak counter i was expecting.

 

[Adam Driver]

Just pointing out your double standards, and got the weak counter i was expecting.

*sigh* sorry you take everything on a forum to heart

 

[ANiMUS]

Naruto had half of Hagoromo's chakra, not even the full 100%, he also only had half Kurama, and a fraction of 8 bijuu. Logic dictates Naruto should be weaker but his RSM is on par if not better than Hagoromo's since he was able to counter JJ Madara's jutsu.

That is because Naruto's RSM was combined with His Kurama mode which makes it above the standard RSM. However RSM is a state having more chakra doesnt make it stronger.

 

[Narutohokage324]

The TSB are a sign of someone having the same power as the SoSP.(Body containing all natures) That would require having the all bijuu chakras. Well having enough to activate the mode anyway. (Naruto does have all bijuu chakras they are just not at a level in which they can be utilized)

False. Truth Seeking Balls were gained from Hagoromo's chakra alone.

You can ask for an explanation. Even Hamura had the TSB, even though he had no Bijuu chakra Lol

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[ANiMUS]

But I just told you that he is borrowing power. If it isn't his power to begin with, then he is borrowing it. Not to mention I was trying to explain that Kurama would be leeching his chakra too until they perfected a resonance. Meaning the former.

No he can't. If Kishimoto wanted to say it was Bijuu Mode, he would have said so in the Databook, but he didn't. Plus, Kishimoto himself placed the cape as the Bijuu Mode signature.

Like you said yourself. Kishimoto worked on the movie, so it is canon.

It is his power though. That is y it is in his area, but going by the principles of ninshuu using that chakra creates a link between Kurama and Naruto. Kurama can just use that link to take Naruto's chakra.

Like I said Kishimoto probably just assimilated the two modes. Which he can do if he wants :| Author status

 

[Narutohokage324]

It is his power though. That is y it is in his area, but going by the principles of ninshuu using that chakra creates a link between Kurama and Naruto. Kurama can just use that link to take Naruto's chakra.

Like I said Kishimoto probably just assimilated the two modes. Which he can do if he wants :| Author status

You can say that he combined the two modes, but Kishimoto already stated what the mode was called. KCM

 

[ANiMUS]

False. Truth Seeking Balls were gained from Hagoromo's chakra alone.

You can ask for an explanation because like I said, it was debunked a long time ago. For God's sake Hamura had the TSB and he has no contact with the TB at all.

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And both Hagoromo and Hamura were born with Juubi chakra
Hence y becoming the JJ gives u the same power as Hagomomo (Hagormomo had RSM even when he wasn't the JJ)

You can say that he combined the two modes, but Kishimoto already stated what the mode was called. KCM

He combined a rinnegan and a sharingan and called it rinnegan :| So point?

 

[Narutohokage324]

And both Hagoromo and Hamura were born with Juubi chakra
Hence y becoming the JJ gives u the same power as Hagomomo (Hagormomo had RSM even when he wasn't the JJ)

Nope. Kaguya conceived them after eating the Fruit.

Juubi is not the Shinju Fruit. She later merged with the Juubi/Tree afterwards, which is why Hagoromo/Hamura had to take her down.

He combined a rinnegan and a sharingan and called it rinnegan :| So point?

What did he call it? Oh that's right, he didn't.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

*sigh* sorry you take everything on a forum to heart

I don't i was just pointing out your double standards.

 

[ANiMUS]

Nope. Kaguya conceived them after eating the Fruit.

Juubi is not the Shinju Fruit. She later merged with the Juubi/Tree afterwards, which is why Hagoromo/Hamura had to take her down.




What did he call it? Oh that's right, he didn't.

@bold. Proof of that. Can u prove that Kaguya didn't just turn into the Juubi and Shinjuu herself?

Also, I just told u he called it a rinnegan :|

 

[Narutohokage324]

@bold. Proof of that. Can u prove that Kaguya didn't just turn into the Juubi and Shinjuu herself?

Also, I just told u he called it a rinnegan :|

Here you go

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Where? The only Rinnegan he called a Rinnegan was Sasuke's, but it is classified as a Rinnegna for obvious reasons. Doesn't change what I said about KCM. No loophole out of that one, so why linger the convo?

 

[ANiMUS]

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Where? The only Rinnegan he called a Rinnegan was Sasuke's, but it is classified as a Rinnegna for obvious reasons. Doesn't change what I said about KCM. No loophole out of that one, so why linger the convo?

Hagoromo never knew that he sealed his mother. He said that it was the Shinjuu, but in reality it was Kaguya. The will to take back chakra was Kaguya's all of this was under her control

Sasuke's Rinnegan was the one i was talking about :| It combines two doujutsu yet is not shown as a differentiation.

Naruto's KCM can be a combination of KCM and BM, but since the appearance as u state is not of BM which has the cape he just called it KCM

 

[Gerkak]

Oh lets see where to start

I never said that chakra can't be given permanently. In fact i explicity said that the chakra given by the sage never goes away, but it is not a portion in which ppl can be classified as utilizing rikudou chakra.

RM is what Hagoromo gave Naruto and I never said that he didn't. This however is also RSM

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The TSB are a sign of someone having the same power as the SoSP.(Body containing all natures) That would require having the all bijuu chakras. Well having enough to activate the mode anyway. (Naruto does have all bijuu chakras they are just not at a level in which they can be utilized)

As far as Gin and Kin they actually have a piece of Kurama within them. That piece will continually generate chakra because Kurama continually generates chakra and he is chakra. (it is like they have a non sentient Kurama within them) Naruto however was just given chakra. The same way that one human gives chakra to another.

Obito who was no longer a jinchuriki recreated his TSB, TSB cannot be used to show whether naruto still has the bijuu chakra or not. That is unless you are saying obito at that time had more bijuu chakra than naruto

kurama is sapient chakra given form, what kin and gin ate was nothing more than physical chakra. In short what they did is no different from what naruto did to get KCM. How can you accept that chakra can be given permanently but not accept that the bijuu gave naruto their chakra permanently?

Also the DB showed naruto's full cloak mode as RSM not the form he first showed when he healed gai.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Hagoromo never knew that he sealed his mother. He said that it was the Shinjuu, but in reality it was Kaguya

Sasuke's Rinnegan was the one i was talking about :| It combines two doujutsu yet is not shown as a differentiation.

Naruto's KCM can be a combination of KCM and BM, but since the appearance as u state is not of BM which has the cape he just called it KCM

What are you talking about Lol
Kaguya ate the fruit, Hagoromo/Hamura were born, and then later they fight the Juubi. There is no connection, only misinformation between TSB and this TB chakra nonsense.

Not going to continue this talk on Rinnegan/Rinnegan-Sharingan. Madara performed the Susano'o without any eyes, and there was no indication that the Rinnegan can't use Sharingan techniques. Only the sole fact that Sasuke's Rinnegan took place of his EMS and was activated outside of the normal means. So I see no valid reason for him to call it anything else. It definitely isn't red.

If it was BM he would called it so. Final word on that as-well.

 

[ANiMUS]

Obito who was no longer a jinchuriki recreated his TSB, TSB cannot be used to show whether naruto still has the bijuu chakra or not. That is unless you are saying obito at that time had more bijuu chakra than naruto

kurama is sapient chakra given form, what kin and gin ate was nothing more than physical chakra. In short what they did is no different from what naruto did to get KCM. How can you accept that chakra can be given permanently but not accept that the bijuu gave naruto their chakra permanently?

Also the DB showed naruto's full cloak mode as RSM not the form he first showed when he healed gai.

Obito took chakra of the Juubi jin from Madara :| That is why the presence of that chakra created TSB.

Gin and Kin ate part of Kurama's stomach. They devoured part of his form. Kurama's as a form of chakra produces more chakra so it pieces of him can possibly produce chakra as well.

How many times do i have to say that the Bijuu chakra given to Naruto was permanent? The only problem is that it wasn't part of their form like Gin and Kin devoured so it doesn't produce more chakra. Even so the chakra itself never goes away even when depleted to a minuscule amount that is y Naruto can still be the meeting place of the bijuu

What are you talking about Lol
Kaguya ate the fruit, Hagoromo/Hamura were born, and then later they fight the Juubi. There is no connection, only misinformation between TSB and this TB chakra nonsense.

Not going to continue this talk on Rinnegan/Rinnegan-Sharingan. Madara performed the Susano'o without any eyes, and there was no indication that the Rinnegan can't use Sharingan techniques. Only the sole fact that Sasuke's Rinnegan took place of his EMS and was activated outside of the normal means. So I see no valid reason for him to call it anything else. It definitely isn't red.

If it was BM he would called it so. Final word on that as-well.

Madara had to downgrade to sharingan to utilize genjutsu. A sharingan ability :|

Also they fought Kaguya.

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That is y they give her nightmares. Kaguya was the Juubi which Hagoromo said that he and his brother fought.
Kaguya was the Shinjuu which she herself spoke to Madara from within. The Shinjuu worked on Kaguya's own will to unite chakra.

Kaguya was the Shinjuu and the Juubi,

If u r done then that is cool. Kishi doesn't have to clarify anything though. The process of new KCM and BM is the same. So one could reason that they r one in the same.

 

[Gerkak]

Obito took chakra of the Juubi jin from Madara :| That is why the presence of that chakra created TSB.

Gin and Kin ate part of Kurama's stomach. They devoured part of his form. Kurama's as a form of chakra produces more chakra so it pieces of him can possibly produce chakra as well.

How many times do i have to say that the Bijuu chakra given to Naruto was permanent? The only problem is that it wasn't part of their form like Gin and Kin devoured so it doesn't produce more chakra. Even so the chakra itself never goes away even when depleted to a minuscule amount that is y Naruto can still be the meeting place of the bijuu

Obito only took ichibi and hachibi chakra :|. You said naruto needs the chakra of all bijuu to manifest TSB did you not?

Kurama is phisical chakra, that is all. Eating a part of him and permanently stealing his chakra is the same. Kurama is unlike a human, with humans cutting off an arm(and letting them heal what is left of it) doesn't make them loose chakra, it only makes them loose flesh. But with kurama cutting off/consuming a piece of it is the same as stealing its chakra since it is made of chakra, in other words a chakra being.

Like I said in the above there exists no distinction between consuming bijuu flesh and being given chakra by bijuu permanently, both regenerate to the same level since the bijuu are chakra beasts.

 

[ANiMUS]

Obito only took ichibi and hachibi chakra :|. You said naruto needs the chakra of all bijuu to manifest TSB did you not?

Kurama is phisical chakra, that is all. Eating a part of him and permanently stealing his chakra is the same. Kurama is unlike a human, with humans cutting off an arm(and letting them heal what is left of it) doesn't make them loose chakra, it only makes them loose flesh. But with kurama cutting off/consuming a piece of it is the same as stealing its chakra since it is made of chakra, in other words a chakra being.

Like I said in the above there exists no distinction between consuming bijuu flesh and being given chakra by bijuu permanently, both regenerate to the same level since the bijuu are chakra beasts.

Obito took RSM chakra look down at MAdara's words, honestly Gerkak u r slipping :|

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If your reasoning worked then all of K11 and Kakashi would have Kyuubi chakra within them right now. :| They were all given Kurama chakra after all. And if there is no distinction then the chakra given to them would regenerate as well.