Sasuke & Naruto fans... SMART / BIAS / STUPID?

Grades N Grabba

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I've been seeing this very regular.

- Sasuke needed Bijuu chakra / Indra humanoid susano'o.

- Naruto needed kyuubi avatar, 4 kyuubu avatar, Kurama nature chakra / Ashura kyuubi avatar.



Here's my questions.


1: What can chakra by itself do to anyone?


2: Wasn't Sasuke the one who turned worthless chakra into something that benefits him?


3: How does Kurama giving Naruto chakra change the fact that he's the one using it skillfully in battle?


4: How is Sasuke taking some of the bijuu's chakra unfair when it's his eye power?


5: How does Naruto using kurama ppwers/chakra unfair when he's the kyuubi jin?



6: Isn't it illogical to expect fans to not defend their fav?

Whether they're doing it in a smart, bias or stupid way.



Can Naruto & Sasuke fans answer these questions.
 
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You can't find your answer here.
 

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When i argue the many reasons why Sasuke should have won that fight. I use none of those arguments.
 

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I've been seeing this very regular.

- Sasuke needed Bijuu chakra / Indra humanoid susano'o.

- Naruto needed kyuubi avatar, 4 kyuubu avatar, Kurama nature chakra / Ashura kyuubi avatar.



Here's my questions.


1: What can chakra by itself do to anyone?


2: Wasn't Sasuke the one who turned worthless chakra into something that benefits him?


3: How does Kurama giving Naruto chakra change the fact that he's the one using it skillfully in battle?


4: How is Sasuke taking some of the bijuu's chakra unfair when it's his eye power?


5: How does Naruto using kurama ppwers/chakra unfair when he's the kyuubi jin?



6: Isn't it illogical to expect fans to not defend their fav?

Whether they're doing it in a smart, bias or stupid way.



Can Naruto & Sasuke fans answer these questions.

I completely agree.
 

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These arguments are irrelevant, when you have mangafacts.
 

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I've been seeing this very regular.

- Sasuke needed Bijuu chakra / Indra humanoid susano'o.

- Naruto needed kyuubi avatar, 4 kyuubu avatar, Kurama nature chakra / Ashura kyuubi avatar.
Bold makes absolutely no sense since they spend chakra to use them, not gain them. Only Bijuu chakra and natural energy makes sense since they absorbed it.
Here's my questions.


1: What can chakra by itself do to anyone?

Depends on the user.

2: Wasn't Sasuke the one who turned worthless chakra into something that benefits him?
Obviously, he is capable of doing so. This is analogous to asserting that Naruto can make worthless natural energy and focus Tailed Beast Chakra and meld it into something that'a beneficial.

3: How does Kurama giving Naruto chakra change the fact that he's the one using it skillfully in battle?


4: How is Sasuke taking some of the bijuu's chakra unfair when it's his eye power?
No one said it was unfair. Problem however is that BPS is available since the Bijuus are already in place. Same case was made with Juugo's Senjutsu chakra. If the Bijuus are part of him as summons or Jinchuurikis, then it will consistently be part of his arsenal.

Of course, no one forces another to do action xyz. So you can include Bijuu Chakra.
5: How does Naruto using kurama ppwers/chakra unfair when he's the kyuubi jin?
A similar answer can be made. Only this time, Naruto is an actual Jinchuurikis.

6: Isn't it illogical to expect fans to not defend their fav?
Whether they're doing it in a smart, bias or stupid way.
For more likely to defend. Although there are few cases where the other wise happened.

Can Naruto & Sasuke fans answer these questions.
Completely depends on objectivity and intellectual capacity. I can name a few Naruto and Sasuke fans straight off the bat. I'm more of the former than of the latter.
 
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Let sasuke kill hinata in front of naruto and see what is gonna happen.
 

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I've been seeing this very regular.

- Sasuke needed Bijuu chakra / Indra humanoid susano'o.

- Naruto needed kyuubi avatar, 4 kyuubu avatar, Kurama nature chakra / Ashura kyuubi avatar.


Here's my questions.


1: What can chakra by itself do to anyone?

Without being kneaded and unless you are not pure Uzumaki, it's just a life force. It has to be made active. It's passive otherwise.

2: Wasn't Sasuke the one who turned worthless chakra into something that benefits him?

He did, and we learned through that that PS can be used as a Mezo as well. Furthermore, we saw Sasuke's skill in Chakra Control. No one was kneading the chakra for him like Kurama for Naruto. His CC was at the Sage's level all on his own.

3: How does Kurama giving Naruto chakra change the fact that he's the one using it skillfully in battle?

He isn't. He didn't absorb that large mass of Natural Energy as well. Naruto fans should get back to me when he does it on his own.

4: How is Sasuke taking some of the bijuu's chakra unfair when it's his eye power?

It is. Naruto got chunks of Bijuu chakra as well, which made the Truth Seeking Orbs possible in the first place. Sasuke took it out by force using his own power. There is a maw of difference between these two scenarios: one was simply handed all that Bijuu chakra, whilst the other used his own power and impeccable CC to take it out.

5: How does Naruto using kurama ppwers/chakra unfair when he's the kyuubi jin?


It isn't. Unless people don't start bawling that he earned it and that Sasuke is the one with the handouts.

6: Isn't it illogical to expect fans to not defend their fav?

It is illogical. If a certain biased statement is made against Sasuke, I would at least try to rectify and clarify it. That's all one can do on NB, really. Given how this forum is plagued by anti-Sasuke posters.

Whether they're doing it in a smart, bias or stupid way.



Can Naruto & Sasuke fans answer these questions.

My answers are posted under your questions.
 

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These arguments are irrelevant, when you have mangafacts.

What?

agree with his agreement of your post

What?

No one said it was unfair. Problem however is that BPS is available since the Bijuus are already in place.

Yes, people do stay that it's unfair and that he wasn't relying on his own power.

- But How is he not relying on his own power when it's his power that allows him to take advantage of such things?

He isn't. He didn't absorb that large mass of Natural Energy as well. Naruto fans should get back to me when he does it on his own.

Still, Wasn't he the one who perfectly made those 2 new attacks, along with combining 4 kurama clones into Ashura avatar?
 
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Um this OP seems like too much work to participate in so I am just going to state this.
Naruto=Sasuke whenever they fight. Always have always will

VOTE 1
Sasuke got 3T and CM lv 2
Naruto used Kyuubi Chakra and the one Tailed cloak.

Samurai bridge
Sasuke was running low on chakra and was blind.
Naruto was being effected by a poison Kunai.

VOTE 2
Naruto obviously stronger than Sasuke upon receiving his powers, but Naruto was running low on bijuu Chakra by his fight with Sasuke started.
Sasuke used bijuu chakra to overpower Naruto, but Naruto used all the nature energy he could gather to counter Sasuke's tech.
From then on they were both equal and it ended with them both near death.

Potential-even if Sasuke was weaker in VoTE 2 Sasuke was not only inexperienced with his rinnegan, but it was also immature giving Sasuke a lot of potential for the future

Even if Naruto doesn't access the other bijuu chakras anymore he still has full Kurama and RM.

If Naruto and Sasuke fight again even without outside sources they will be equal because that is what plot dictates. That's what keeps things challenging and entertaining. That being said Naruto would probably win :|
 
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Having borrowed automatic copy&paste eye is ok...

What?

Still, Wasn't he the one who perfectly made those 2 new attacks, along with combining 4 kurama clones into Ashura avatar?

I didn't say he didn't. But that was not possible without NE to begin with. Something Kurama did. One step was completely skipped for that.
 

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What?



I didn't say he didn't. But that was not possible without NE to begin with. Something Kurama did. One step was completely skipped for that.

I understand what you're saying, But giving someone powers doesn't mean that they're capable of using it.
 
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