[Discussion] 'Broken' Devil Fruits

[24 12 11 to troll]

Which Devil Fruits do you think are completely hax? Why?

I'd be interested to see other peoples opinions

My personal list:

1. Marcos Phoenix fruit

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His healing flames seemed to have no limit, Oda needs to elaborate on the extent of his healing abilities, the only times Marco has been injured is when he was in contact with Kairouseki

2. Suna Suna no Mi

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The standard Devil Fruit weakness is water, and yet Crocodile can absorb water, the source of his own weakness???

3. Ope Ope no Mi

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Other than stamina, there is seemingly no limit to what Law can do, he can freely modify the world around him, seriously, endless possibilities

4. Nikyu Nikyu no Mi

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This fruit is hax because any contact with Bartholomews hands is instant buttf*ck, you could simply be sent away or have your attacks rebounded

5. Hobi Hobi no Mi

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Like the Nikyu Nikyu no Mi, any contact with Sugars hand leaves you f*cked, and unlike the other fruits you can't even fight back against the user once turned into a toy

Honorable mentions: Hie Hie no Mi, Fujitoras fruit, Pika Pika no Mi, Gura Gura no Mi, Magu Magu no Mi and the Yami Yami no Mi

 

[Sheele]

I agree with your list young boy.

 

[loj]

The first one.

And of course Law's Ope Ope no mi.

Why couse the Marco one is just awesome,and is different flame than Mera Mera.

Law can cut everything and anyone XD can swich places and do wonders.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

I agree with nr 3,4 and 5 and add Foxy's fruit. Would be devestating in the hands of someone capable
Boah's DF aswell and Hawkings. Bonney's DF to

 

[Kingu]

I agree with nr 3,4 and 5 and add Foxy's fruit. Would be devestating in the hands of someone capable

That sig exactly what I was thinking when watchin Avengers

OT: I agree with your list

 

[Praydara]

1. Goro Goro no Mi - Potentially one-shots anyone who isn't made out of a natural insulator, protects the user from any non-haki related injury, allows the user to move at 'lightning fast' speeds by turning into lightning and doing just that, and when combined with the Ark Maxim, allowed for destruction on a massive scale.

2. Gura Gura no Mi - Self-explanatory, allows for absurd amounts of destruction.

3. Gasu Gasu no Mi - Could feasibly generate any kind of gas, allowing for tons of different attacks and uses, along with the usual powers given to a Logia-type Devil Fruit user.

4. Ope Ope no Mi - Law controls everything within the 'Room', giving him pretty much absolute power within its bounds.

5. Suna Suna no Mi - People forget just how versatile it actually was. Not only does it dry up its own weakness, but its decaying abilities allow Crocodile to create as much sand as he possibly needs around him and control it however he wishes.

 

[Legend Slayer]

Haxed DF users IMO :
Sugar
Megallen
Law
Enel
Bonney
Jora
Kuma
Trebol

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

The first one.

And of course Law's Ope Ope no mi.

Why couse the Marco one is just awesome,and is different flame than Mera Mera.

Law can cut everything and anyone XD can swich places and do wonders.

That and the fact that Blue Flames are proven to be stronger than Magma because of Marcos ability to reflect Sakazukis magma attacks with ease

I agree with nr 3,4 and 5 and add Foxy's fruit. Would be devestating in the hands of someone capable
Boah's DF aswell and Hawkings. Bonney's DF to

There are a few, not so much Hawkins fruit though

In the hands of someone capable it would be able to do more than slow things down, problem is the beams are slow and anyone remotely close to being as fast a pre-skip luffy can dodge them

1. Goro Goro no Mi - Potentially one-shots anyone who isn't made out of a natural insulator, protects the user from any non-haki related injury, allows the user to move at 'lightning fast' speeds by turning into lightning and doing just that, and when combined with the Ark Maxim, allowed for destruction on a massive scale.

2. Gura Gura no Mi - Self-explanatory, allows for absurd amounts of destruction.

3. Gasu Gasu no Mi - Could feasibly generate any kind of gas, allowing for tons of different attacks and uses, along with the usual powers given to a Logia-type Devil Fruit user.

4. Ope Ope no Mi - Law controls everything within the 'Room', giving him pretty much absolute power within its bounds.

5. Suna Suna no Mi - People forget just how versatile it actually was. Not only does it dry up its own weakness, but its decaying abilities allow Crocodile to create as much sand as he possibly needs around him and control it however he wishes.

1. Not if the user has strong Busoshoku Haki

2. Yep

3. Problem is it's pretty weak unless Caesar uses equipment and fruit enhancing devices

4. Yep

5. Yep

Haxed DF users IMO :
Sugar
Megallen
Law
Enel
Bonney
Jora
Kuma
Trebol

Not so much Trebol , but I can agree with the rest

What makes you think his fruit is so overpowered?

 

[JasonTheArgonaut]

I think the most OP is Hawkeye wtf would happen if he ever ate a devil fruit

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I think the most OP is Hawkeye wtf would happen if he ever ate a devil fruit

That's not the discussion

It's not the users strength but the abilities the DF would give any user that is the discussion point of this thread

 

[sage1999]

The Suna Suna no mi ONLY produces sand. Crocodile Awakened it therefore he could absorb moisture.

U forgot the Horo Horo no mi and violet DF. IMO Violet DF = Byakugan of OP

oH YH AND JOZU DF ability is also pretty strong

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

The Suna Suna no mi ONLY produces sand. Crocodile Awakened it therefore he could absorb moisture.

U forgot the Horo Horo no mi and violet DF. IMO Violet DF = Byakugan of OP

That doesn't matter, we don't know if the fruit is awakened or not. We only know that Crocodile knows what awakenings are from his comments in Impel Down.

It doesn't just produce sand, he can dry everything up, cut you and create strong winds. He's done this with many techniques. It's hardly a single use fruit

 

[Punk Hazard]

Haki completely nullifies the "hax" of the first two. Marco's body seems to only be able to heal while it's in Phoenix form. That is, if he's transformed into a phoenix, the damage is healed, but if he's in his human form, and his human body is injured, the wound remains. When Garp punched him, he was left with bruises and blood on his face because the Haki lacing the punch struck the human form hidden underneath the phoenix's body. Any proficient Haki user on Marco's level can combat him.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Haki completely nullifies the "hax" of the first two. Marco's body seems to only be able to heal while it's in Phoenix form. That is, if he's transformed into a phoenix, the damage is healed, but if he's in his human form, and his human body is injured, the wound remains. When Garp punched him, he was left with bruises and blood on his face because the Haki lacing the punch struck the human form hidden underneath the phoenix's body. Any proficient Haki user on Marco's level can combat him.

I already acknowledged that fact. Perhaps the one disadvantage to the healing abilities is that it only works on areas transformed to flames, meaning that partial transformations will only heal certain areas etc.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I also wouldn't say the Suna Suna no Mi is broken. It can absorb water, but what good will that do against Haki? What good did it do when Luffy was covered in blood?

 

[Retsu]

Why is doffy not on anyone's list. He managed to use his strings to heal his organs from fatal injuries, one of the most broken abilities even without awakening no doubt

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I also wouldn't say the Suna Suna no Mi is broken. It can absorb water, but what good will that do against Haki? What good did it do when Luffy was covered in blood?

What good would anything do against Haki? It's there simply to make sure Devil Fruits don't remain untouchable, especially the likes of Logias and ridiculous Paramecias.

As far as devil fruits go it's pretty hax though, only two DF's can overcome water; the Suna Suna no Mi and Hie Hie no Mi. Another hax feature is the fact that if Croc so much as touches you with his sand, you're pretty much a sundried apricot This makes you incapable of fighting him and forces you to use long range attacks, which again is a field the Suna Suna no Mi fairs well in, with Sabres (making strong winds, that can probably cut you considering sandstorms can do that IRL), and his regular slicing attacks. What could anyone other than a Logia or Haki monster do against Desert Grande Espada? The versatility of the fruit is also immense.

Why is doffy not on anyone's list. He managed to use his strings to heal his organs from fatal injuries, one of the most broken abilities even without awakening no doubt

Sure, it's a good devil fruit, but in my opinion it's not haxxed in the sense that its powers are incredibly hard to overcome. Just my opinion anyway

 

[Caliburn]

There isn't really something like a real haxed devil fruit. The replies in this thread pretty much confirm that as at this rate half of all the existing devil fruits will be called a hax. The reality is that the entire concept of devil fruits in itself can be considered a hax as Oda draws the line wherever he wants and that is crucial. You should not be thinking about what the possibilities of a DF could be, but what it has shown to be capable of, nothing more as the possibilities can be endless making every DF a potential hax.

You say Marco's DF is a hax. Why? He is a phoenix, so he can be revived endlessly regardless from injury. He is a mythical beast, his DF is even scarcer than Logia DF. Normally even Logia have natural weaknesses against their element, like Enel was against rubber, but this does not apply to Marc. In the end however it's still a DF. Garp hit him with his bare fist while he was in phoenix mode. There is anything in particular Oda has to elaborate on.

Same thing with Crocodile. Was he able to put his hand into water and suck it all up? No. Covering yourself in water even makes you able to hit him. He was able to suck up moisture from objects, but the has never shown being able to suck up bodies of water directly. There's a subtle difference there.

Same thing with the Ope Ope no Mi. You even clearly said it: "endless possibilities". But that's not the point, the point is what did Oda make Law do with it? He can only control stuff within his space, on top of that he has not been shown to be able to decrease nor increase a substance. It was clearly mentioned in the series that the fruit would be most beneficial in the hands of a doctor, if not it starts losing much of its potential. During his fight with a Pacifista pre-timeskip, when he wanted to use his ability on the Pacifista, he was too slow. If Oda wouldn't have added the ability to make someone else immortal at the cost of the user's life, I wouldn't even have considered such an ability. But as Oda added it, that became a possibility and you can do that with all DF.

What if Buggy can change himself into 10 000 little sections? He would have been able to escape ID like it was nothing, he might even be capable of traveling over large bodies of water without any kind of ship.

Who would have thought of Kuma being able to repel 'damage' out of someone's body? I mean you should just dodge his paws and there shouldn't be any problem, no? But Oda then gave him abilities like pushing away damage and Ursus Shock? I mean how did his paws allow him to repel air into such a shape? But it is possible because Oda made it so.

None of these DF are in particular haxed as Oda can draw the line wherever he wants because the concept of DF in itself is pretty much a hax. He can make DF look weak despite having enough possibilities to make them strong and vice versa. Ace was also laughing at Luffy's DF saying it was useless and look at Luffy now. Rob Lucci said it already: it comes down to how you use the DF.

It's pointless thinking about what the endless possibilities of a DF are as then you get what is happening in this thread: everyone is listing half of all the DF introduced. In the end Oda decides how far he wants to go with an ability.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

There isn't really something like a real haxed devil fruit. The replies in this thread pretty much confirm that as at this rate half of all the existing devil fruits will be called a hax. The reality is that the entire concept of devil fruits in itself can be considered a hax as Oda draws the line wherever he wants and that is crucial. You should not be thinking about what the possibilities of a DF could be, but what it has shown to be capable of, nothing more as the possibilities can be endless making every DF a potential hax.

You say Marco's DF is a hax. Why? He is a phoenix, so he can be revived endlessly regardless from injury. He is a mythical beast, his DF is even scarcer than Logia DF. Normally even Logia have natural weaknesses against their element, like Enel was against rubber, but this does not apply to Marc. In the end however it's still a DF. Garp hit him with his bare fist while he was in phoenix mode. There is anything in particular Oda has to elaborate on.

Same thing with Crocodile. Was he able to put his hand into water and suck it all up? No. Covering yourself in water even makes you able to hit him. He was able to suck up moisture from objects, but the has never shown being able to suck up bodies of water directly. There's a subtle difference there.

Same thing with the Ope Ope no Mi. You even clearly said it: "endless possibilities". But that's not the point, the point is what did Oda make Law do with it? He can only control stuff within his space, on top of that he has not been shown to be able to decrease nor increase a substance. It was clearly mentioned in the series that the fruit would be most beneficial in the hands of a doctor, if not it starts losing much of its potential. During his fight with a Pacifista pre-timeskip, when he wanted to use his ability on the Pacifista, he was too slow. If Oda wouldn't have added the ability to make someone else immortal at the cost of the user's life, I wouldn't even have considered such an ability. But as Oda added it, that became a possibility and you can do that with all DF.

What if Buggy can change himself into 10 000 little sections? He would have been able to escape ID like it was nothing, he might even be capable of traveling over large bodies of water without any kind of ship.

Who would have thought of Kuma being able to repel 'damage' out of someone's body? I mean you should just dodge his paws and there shouldn't be any problem, no? But Oda then gave him abilities like pushing away damage and Ursus Shock? I mean how did his paws allow him to repel air into such a shape? But it is possible because Oda made it so.

None of these DF are in particular haxed as Oda can draw the line wherever he wants because the concept of DF in itself is pretty much a hax. He can make DF look weak despite having enough possibilities to make them strong and vice versa. Ace was also laughing at Luffy's DF saying it was useless and look at Luffy now. Rob Lucci said it already: it comes down to how you use the DF.

It's pointless thinking about what the endless possibilities of a DF are as then you get what is happening in this thread: everyone is listing half of all the DF introduced. In the end Oda decides how far he wants to go with an ability.

The fact a fruit is rare doesn't mean it's any less overpowered.

Crocodile was able to absorb water with ease, just look at what he did to Mizu Luffy.

Laws fruit has already been described as the ultimate, your point is invalid.

Buggy can't be cut up by a punch ...

So what's your point about Kuma?

It may come down to how you use your Devil Fruit, but there is no denying that some are far greater than others regardless of how you use them.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

The Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Pheonix