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Oda: From a design standpoint, Zabuza was really cool. I feel like Naruto only took off in popularIty after the Zabuza storyline.
Kishimoto: That period was really tough. I was running a fever every week, and just had to keep drawing. [laughes]
Oda: Was that the most difficult period for you while working on Naruto?
Kishimoto: No, that was probably the very end. The final chapter was in color, so I had to start on that really early. And because they'd already decided which issue it was going to run in, I had to space the story to fit that schedule.
But the closer I got to the final chapter, the more i feel like i was running out of space to wrap things up. Normally, i could just carry a story over into the next issue, but now i couldn't get away with it. Honestly, there were times i though i was done for. [laughs]
Oda: It didn't seems rished at all, although. The layout and pannels all seem to have plenty of margins. But i'm sure you had everything heading up to that final fight between Naruto and Sasuke planned out already. Was it hard to get the story to go there?
Kishimoto: Yes, it was. [laughs]
Oda: I think it would be fun for me to end One Piece on a nice, happy note, but getting there is going to be an uphill battle. i have all these ideas about how i might do it, but you're right, it's really tough. [laughter]
Oda: what was the most difficult part leading up to the Naruto finale?
Kishimoto: It was exactly how i was going to depict Sasuke. Up till then, i'd shown a lot of Naruto's inner feelings, but i'd kept Sasuke's totally hidden. I knew i was going to have to show them in the end, but i was quite sure how to get there. I mean, i decided in the begining that the climax was going to be the battle between Naruto and Sasuke, so that more or less turned out how i imagined. But the stuff that happen in between that didn't really go how i thought it would.
I'll probably try to update this some more.
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Oda: Part 2 of Naruto when Choji's hand gets really big.
Kishimoto: That's right. [laughs]
Oda: It was a surprising thing to see, so when I introduced the Giant Pistol move. I let him know, look, ''Hey, I'm kind of copying your style here. Sorry.''
Kishimoto: Even though it was no big deal. [laughter]
Oda: But it was really thanks to kishimoto that our two manga could both run in the same magazine.
Kishimoto: Well, the second anyone told me Naruto was like One Piece, I knew I didn't stand a chance.
Oda: Yeah right.
Oda: Usually when you you have two manga series in the same genre, they compete for the same audience.
But Kishimoto figured out how to keep Naruto and One Piece from overlapping too much. Take colors, for instance, Luffy uses a lot of red, so he went with a different color scheme for Naruto.
There's hardly a touch of red in Naruto, is there? He went out of his way to make sure they wouldn't encroach on each other.
That said, if Kishimoto had started two years earlier than me and used red first, I probably still would have gone with red. [laughter]
Kishimoto: That's where you and I are different. [laughter] But I definitely made a conscious effort throughout the series to keep it from overlapping with One Piece.
Oda: It's one thing to talk about it, but I'm sure it must have been difficult to actually do. I mean, I had to keep One Piece different from Dragin Ball.
Kishimoto: Right.
Oda: Dragon Ball made such a deep impression on everyone, I think fans could still remember it perfectly five years after it ended. And it was certainly one of my favorites too. I would never have stood a chance against it. So I had to come up with something different.
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