[Discussion] One question.

[Anduril]

If as we came to know in this chapter, Trebol was a paramecia.

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Then why is it that Usopps shuriken did not work?

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[Black Mamba]

Good question

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

you have to cut him vertically

page where he was cut:

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[Anduril]

you have to cut him vertically

page where he was cut:

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You had to cut him vertically because he was extremely skinny and it was a deception, that made people think he was Logia.

The thing about being a paramecia is you have a body (Unlike a logia) and usopp did get a rather clean cut across Trebol at chest level, I don't see how being skinny helps him escape it.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

It is a good question, maybe he can reattach himself with his mucus?

Or maybe he can move about within his mucus cloak like Magellan does?

Answers are needed.

P.S. To everyone that doubted my belief that Trebol was a Paramecia and not a Logia: STFU

 

[Punk Hazard]

you have to cut him vertically

page where he was cut:

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Dude, look at the image. Trebol was cut right below his chin. Even if he's a contortionist, he couldn't have fit all of his body in that little space.

To be honest, it looks like a plothole for now.

 

[xanonymosx]

A\ he is not a logia , he moved his body to the upper part when ussop cut him but the spaceis too small to fit him and i dont think he got the time to do that so nah

B\ he is indeed a logia and he is using his thin body to trick the haki users, first they attack him but he dont get affected so they use haki but again no thing happens (unless they were lucky) and they start questioning what is going on

but that would be plain stupid and luck dependent cause if a fighter used a huge AOE attack he would hit him even if he dont know about the trick so it would be useless in many cases plus that would mean law can imbue his friggen severed arm with haki .

 

[ultraChalk]

A\ he is not a logia , he moved his body to the upper part when ussop cut him but the spaceis too small to fit him and i dont think he got the time to do that so nah

B\ he is indeed a logia and he is using his thin body to trick the haki users, first they attack him but he dont get affected so they use haki but again no thing happens (unless they were lucky) and they start questioning what is going on

but that would be plain stupid and luck dependent cause if a fighter used a huge AOE attack he would hit him even if he dont know about the trick so it would be useless in many cases plus that would mean law can imbue his friggen severed arm with haki .

Ugh, stupid phone, I meant to Like.

These are good answers though.

 

[xanonymosx]

Ugh, stupid phone, I meant to Like.

no problem man

 

[Anduril]

A\ he is not a logia , he moved his body to the upper part when ussop cut him but the spaceis too small to fit him and i dont think he got the time to do that so nah

B\ he is indeed a logia and he is using his thin body to trick the haki users, first they attack him but he dont get affected so they use haki but again no thing happens (unless they were lucky) and they start questioning what is going on

but that would be plain stupid and luck dependent cause if a fighter used a huge AOE attack he would hit him even if he dont know about the trick so it would be useless in many cases plus that would mean law can imbue his friggen severed arm with haki .

Scenario B is not possible because a logia gets hit if any part connected to his body gets attacked with Haki. So even if trebol is using a coat of goo to surround his original body, as long as it stays connected to the body he will receive the damage.

But I cannot be sure.

 

[Kingu]

Perhaps he has Ken haki to dodge incoming attacks while in his gooey armour or clothes.

 

[xanonymosx]

Scenario B is not possible because a logia gets hit if any part connected to his body gets attacked with Haki. So even if trebol is using a coat of goo to surround his original body, as long as it stays connected to the body he will receive the damage.

But I cannot be sure.

there is a diffrent between turning your body parts into the element and generating the element for ex somker, he truns his fist into the element (somke ) so if somone attacked him with haki he would hurt him but if somone like enel generated a Lightning bolt attack say "sango" and zoro cut the bolt with hakified slash enel shouldnt get hurt cause the bolt genarated isnt part of his body


plus i think you guys forgot about this manga page:

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trebol was trying to reattach himself after getting cut by radio knife but he couldnt and law said " radio knife is diffrent you wont be able to attatch your self "
if trebol wasnt a logia law woudnt need to use that specific attack to prevent him from pulling himself back together he could just use a regular slash like the one he used against tashigi ,and the very fact that trebol was trying to reattach him self means he could if it`s not for radio knife and that is somthing only logias could do
so trebol being a logia is pretty much confirmed unless oda forgot about that panel too xd

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

If as we came to know in this chapter, Trebol was a paramecia.

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Then why is it that Usopps shuriken did not work?

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My bad meant to click like.

 

[Anduril]

there is a diffrent between turning your body parts into the element and generating the element for ex somker, he truns his fist into the element (somke ) so if somone attacked him with haki he would hurt him but if somone like enel generated a Lightning bolt attack say "sango" and zoro cut the bolt with hakified slash enel shouldnt get hurt cause the bolt genarated isnt part of his body

Dude you are basically saying what I am saying.
And trebol is connected to his goo, so if someone hits the goo with Haki, he should feel it.

plus i think you guys forgot about this manga page:

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trebol was trying to reattach himself after getting cut by radio knife but he couldnt and law said " radio knife is diffrent you wont be able to attatch your self "
if trebol wasnt a logia law woudnt need to use that specific attack to prevent him from pulling himself back together he could just use a regular slash like the one he used against tashigi ,and the very fact that trebol was trying to reattach him self means he could if it`s not for radio knife and that is somthing only logias could do
so trebol being a logia is pretty much confirmed unless oda forgot about that panel too xd

Also radio knife works on all kinds of people and no one is able to reattach themselves properly after its use. It is not just meant for Logia. It's just like Law's normal cutting but this time, the person cannot reattach properly like they could otherwise.

 

[GT Is Not Canon]

Im pretty sure on the ussop thing its implied that he pulled the ole magician's assistant and pulled himself up and hid his body in the excess glue on the top most part. On the law thing I'm pretty sure that radio knife cut him up just like regular shambles but with logia prevention cause logia body goes through whole element weird style ie smoker doffy, but he's para so he just glues parts back until final cut

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

I think that his sticky sticky fruit is more similar to luffy's and Buggy's fruits, rather than Law's and Whitebeard's. The fruit changes the users body itself, and its abilities are both unconscious and conscious to the user. Luffy is always rubber, and Buggy can be cut every which way. His sticky stick fruit makes him into a blob being. So, a blob can be cut in two, and regroup. But if the attacker's blade is clad in haki, that will nullify the attribute. I don't think that Ussop used armament haki with his attack, and I believe law did.

So, the fruit acts somewhat like a logia with its semi-permeable state, but its still a paramecia. Which goes along with Doffy's whole deal about getting hax paramecia.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think that his sticky sticky fruit is more similar to luffy's and Buggy's fruits, rather than Law's and Whitebeard's. The fruit changes the users body itself, and its abilities are both unconscious and conscious to the user. Luffy is always rubber, and Buggy can be cut every which way. His sticky stick fruit makes him into a blob being. So, a blob can be cut in two, and regroup. But if the attacker's blade is clad in haki, that will nullify the attribute. I don't think that Ussop used armament haki with his attack, and I believe law did.

So, the fruit acts somewhat like a logia with its semi-permeable state, but its still a paramecia. Which goes along with Doffy's whole deal about getting hax paramecia.

If that was the case, Luffy's punches should have hurt him.

 

[GT Is Not Canon]

And that is why I think my theory is is the correct one, the glue dampens physical blows. And I stand by magicians assistant theory, when you look at the picture of trebol at age 33 on one piece wiki he's got like a hunch back of glue (he carries excess to move body inside without people knowing similar to pica but on a Much smaller scale, and when's he's cut by ussop the top most part is apretty big chunk, big enough to ball up quickly, tornado drill style

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Dude you are basically saying what I am saying.
And trebol is connected to his goo, so if someone hits the goo with Haki, he should feel it.



Also radio knife works on all kinds of people and no one is able to reattach themselves properly after its use. It is not just meant for Logia. It's just like Law's normal cutting but this time, the person cannot reattach properly like they could otherwise.

Actually, Luffy would be able to reattach himself after Radio Knife since he is rubber and immune to electricity.