[Discussion] Revolutionary Army Leaders.

[KingHashirama]

The revolutionary army as you know has its leaders spread around the world. And with that we haven't really seen that many high ranking officers.

Dragon - Commander-in-chief
Sabo - second in command
Ivankov- one of the commanders


Now we know that Sabo became the second in command, yet people like Ivankov had been with Dragon for a long time. But I'm 100% sure it doesn't really have to do with him being the "Second strongest" in the army (I have a feeling there might be people stronger than Sabo ).


Because in all honesty, if Dragon were to do a direct war attack on the WG, seeing the members that we only know of.. i can't see him standing a chance. So that means he probably has badasses hiding right now.



Now in your opinion, will the unknown leaders be strong as, or stronger than Sabo (non-ace's DF sabo)?
Will they be admiral tier?
Will they be able to rival the warlords?
When do you think they will be revealed?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It's either akoji or kuma.

 

[KingHashirama]

It's either akoji or kuma.

No, not who else is going to join Dragon.. But the ones that are already with him. The ones that are spread across the world, and so on. You think any of them will be as strong as the warlords or the admirals?

 

[Venomous Cobra]

No, not who else is going to join Dragon.. But the ones that are already with him. The ones that are spread across the world, and so on. You think any of them will be as strong as the warlords or the admirals?

Kuma was already a warlord, I'd probably say that the number 1 division leader would be another admiral level soldier like sabo(fighting with fujitoura proves that he is). But still I have a strong feeling that akoji is part of them.....but that's just me......

 

[Anduril]

They cannot afford a direct war, that's why they are the revolutionary army. Most likely they operate in seclusion and will need the support of a Pirate king if they ever wish to go on the Offensive against the world government.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Monkey D. Dragon - Commander in Chief

Then, the following are all on an equal level of authority:
1. Sabo - Chief of Staff
2. unknown - Chief of interior affairs/co ordinator
3. unknown - Foreign policy stuff

One of them may be Kuzan

Then beneath that you have 5 commanders, going by my theory of them mirroring the Bolshevik party, so far we know of Kuma and Ivankov as commanders, there's bound to be at least 3 more

 

[KingHashirama]

They cannot afford a direct war, that's why they are the revolutionary army. Most likely they operate in seclusion and will need the support of a Pirate king if they ever wish to go on the Offensive against the world government.

Pirate King will only rival few. The world government will also probably get alot of pirates on their side. However, I'm sure Dragon isn't going to rely on just luffy becoming the pirate king to take on the World Government.

I mean the marines had people like Fujitora who are admiral tier but weren't admirals. So who knows how many more people like that they have in their arsenal. And Dragon did say the time to gather the leaders is coming.

Monkey D. Dragon - Commander in Chief

Then, the following are all on an equal level of authority:
1. Sabo - Chief of Staff
2. unknown - Chief of interior affairs/co ordinator
3. unknown - Foreign policy stuff

One of them may be Kuzan

Then beneath that you have 5 commanders, going by my theory of them mirroring the Bolshevik party, so far we know of Kuma and Ivankov as commanders, there's bound to be at least 3 more

Oohh never thought of this. But Sabo is the second in command (i believe it was stated as such) so he'd be superior to pretty much everyone except Dragon.

Hmmm Kuzan will probably join the Army, but as far as already being part of it? eh i don't think thats possible, considering hes been trying so hard to simply lead the marines.

Kuma was already a warlord, I'd probably say that the number 1 division leader would be another admiral level soldier like sabo(fighting with fujitoura proves that he is). But still I have a strong feeling that akoji is part of them.....but that's just me......

I think Aokiji will probably join him, but don't think hes part of them right now tho.

 

[Anduril]

Pirate King will only rival few. The world government will also probably get alot of pirates on their side. However, I'm sure Dragon isn't going to rely on just luffy becoming the pirate king to take on the World Government.

I mean the marines had people like Fujitora who are admiral tier but weren't admirals. So who knows how many more people like that they have in their arsenal. And Dragon did say the time to gather the leaders is coming.



Oohh never thought of this. But Sabo is the second in command (i believe it was stated as such) so he'd be superior to pretty much everyone except Dragon.

Hmmm Kuzan will probably join the Army, but as far as already being part of it? eh i don't think thats possible, considering hes been trying so hard to simply lead the marines.



I think Aokiji will probably join him, but don't think hes part of them right now tho.

Actually what I meant is to organize and overthrow the world government he is going to need the support of a lot of kings and kingdoms, I am sure the Pirate King who will command the most notorious people in the world (Not just luffy and co. but all the pirates) will be the most disastrous addition that would tip the scales in the favour of the Revs.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Oohh never thought of this. But Sabo is the second in command (i believe it was stated as such) so he'd be superior to pretty much everyone except Dragon.

Hmmm Kuzan will probably join the Army, but as far as already being part of it? eh i don't think thats possible, considering hes been trying so hard to simply lead the marines.

Sabo was appointed chief of staff... the chief of staff isn't traditionally 2nd in command, he may be one of several as second in command

 

[Anduril]

Sabo was appointed chief of staff... the chief of staff isn't traditionally 2nd in command, he may be one of several as second in command

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[WhistleBlower]

Of course he had badasses that haven't been introduced. The reasons i see for this are:


- Oda still hasn't planned their appearances, powers, strengths, etc
- Oda knows the final war is ages away but dont worry he will give us subtle teases along the way. Thats the way he is


They will surely be ranging from vice-admiral and admiral level. He has to have had stronger men than Ivankov, Inazuma, Kuma and Sabo. So much government territory the revolutionaries have taken this is because there are strong people behind this. I can't see simple footsoldiers doing much a admiral can be called in two secounds to destroy them.

 

[Love Cook]

Kuma and Vegapunk

I refuse to believe Kuma got his memory wiped completely. I think that since he is a robot that Vegapunk installed some kind of program to make him appear like a WG soldier without Revolutionary memories left to be the ultimate spy. But that he will be unleashed later on.

I don't think Vegapunk is happy working with the marines. With all the stories about him so far I think he might be working with the revolutionaries from the inside, while keeping the WG happy.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

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Did you miss that I said there could be several of an equal rank

If my Theory about the Bolshevik party is correct, the Chief of Staff (Stalin/Sabo) is a massive underdog in comparison to 4 others of equal rank that all served under Lenin (Dragon)

SO IF my theory is correct, Sabo is joint 2nd in command, however there are others of equal authority whom are currently stronger. It doesn't take a genius to understand my original point.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Did you miss that I said there could be several of an equal rank

If my Theory about the Bolshevik party is correct, the Chief of Staff (Stalin/Sabo) is a massive underdog in comparison to 4 others of equal rank that all served under Lenin (Dragon)

SO IF my theory is correct, Sabo is joint 2nd in command, however there are others of equal authority whom are currently stronger. It doesn't take a genius to understand my original point.

If there were others at an equal rank to Sabo, that guy would have said "Why is one of the no.2's of the Revolutionary Army here?

 

[KingHashirama]

Actually what I meant is to organize and overthrow the world government he is going to need the support of a lot of kings and kingdoms, I am sure the Pirate King who will command the most notorious people in the world (Not just luffy and co. but all the pirates) will be the most disastrous addition that would tip the scales in the favour of the Revs.

But the kings were joining the world government to go against him.

Sabo was appointed chief of staff... the chief of staff isn't traditionally 2nd in command, he may be one of several as second in command

Ahhh ok that makes sense ^_^

Kuma and Vegapunk

I refuse to believe Kuma got his memory wiped completely. I think that since he is a robot that Vegapunk installed some kind of program to make him appear like a WG soldier without Revolutionary memories left to be the ultimate spy. But that he will be unleashed later on.

I don't think Vegapunk is happy working with the marines. With all the stories about him so far I think he might be working with the revolutionaries from the inside, while keeping the WG happy.

yoooo that'd be badass is Vegapunk turns out to be a revolutionary.

 

[Anduril]

Did you miss that I said there could be several of an equal rank

If my Theory about the Bolshevik party is correct, the Chief of Staff (Stalin/Sabo) is a massive underdog in comparison to 4 others of equal rank that all served under Lenin (Dragon)

SO IF my theory is correct, Sabo is joint 2nd in command, however there are others of equal authority whom are currently stronger. It doesn't take a genius to understand my original point.

What Uzumaki Macho said + Sabo would not be so famous as a number 2 if there were several others of similar rank.

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

Sleeper agents can be strong....the revolutionary army is vast

 

[WhistleBlower]

I actually really want to see this theory i read ages ago about Vegapunk a revolutionary spy. He has allegedly taken away Kuma's consciousness and made him into a human weapon. As we've seen in the past, there are many pacifista now.

The theory read that one day in the final war engulfing the whole world, all the pacifista & kuma's personalities will be assigned new orders "order 66". Aka, Kill Goresei/marines,cipher pols. Can't wait to see this , if it does come true!! PLEASE ODA??

 

[paidclouds]

possible leaders :

1) Dracule Mihawk : he always interested in Luffy and do not run pirate crew.
2) Shanks : Never fight unnecessary war and knows about void century.
3) there might be one of deserted celestial dragon(like doflamingo's father)
4) Some Ex. marine admirals and vice-admirals.
5) some Ex. Gol. D. Roger' Crew.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

What Uzumaki Macho said + Sabo would not be so famous as a number 2 if there were several others of similar rank.

Since the commanders are probably below Sabo and they're f*cking famous as sh*t, your argument is illogical