Why didn't Sasuke use Genjutsu on the Raikage?

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Null Man

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Okay,good points.Sasuke indeed could not keep up with V2 Raikage,but V1 Raikage sure did take a good look at Sasuke's eyes,and how do you excuse him staring at Sasuke's eyes while he was building up Amaterasu?

Again, Raikage taking a glance doesn't mean Sasuke can land his genjutsu. Ay's fighting style proved he can comfortably roam around sharingan users such as Madara without falling prey to genjutsu, unless he is forcefully restrained to stand still so genjutsu can be used on him.



The manga showed Sasuke resorting to Amaterasu. Genjutsu isn't an automatic technique, the user has to activate it just like any other jutsu, And there's the fact that Sharingan: Genjutsu techniques have usually shown to be short range techniques with limited distance varying from 0 to 5m such as Demonic Illusion: Shackling stakes which is a sharingan genjutsu.

Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes Technique (魔幻・枷杭の術, Magen: Kasegui no Jutsu)
Genjutsu, Kekkei Genkai, No rank, Supplementary, Short range (0-5m)
Users: Uchiha Itachi, Uchiha Sasuke

A make-believe yoke piercing the limbs and body, completely snatching away one's freedom to move!! Once caught in the mind world created by the user, the victim will be tormented with the sensation of having wedges driven through their limbs, completely taking away their body's freedom. At the same time, the physical pain accompanying the illusion reveals the great use this technique has for primarily torture and such.
If you can carefully, view the pages of the manga in that specific chapter there is a lot of remark on Amaterasu. Cee confirms that Kumo already had full info on Amaterasu and its users. Blood signals Amaterasu usage. And there's the fact you can't use Amaterasu and Genjutsu at the same time especially considering the after-effects and chakra cost the user experiences. It'd be like Obito using both of his Kamui versions with one eye or Naruto creating two Rasengans with one hand.

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Though I'm not surprised with your reasoning in the OP, especially when you're using plot which is the typical pretext fans use when their favourite doesn't live up to their expectations ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Again, Raikage taking a glance doesn't mean Sasuke can land his genjutsu. Ay's fighting style proved he can comfortably roam around sharingan users such as Madara without falling prey to genjutsu, unless he is forcefully restrained to stand still so genjutsu can be used on him.



The manga showed Sasuke resorting to Amaterasu. Genjutsu isn't an automatic technique, the user has to activate it just like any other jutsu, And there's the fact that Sharingan: Genjutsu techniques have usually shown to be short range techniques with limited distance varying from 0 to 5m such as Demonic Illusion: Shackling stakes which is a sharingan genjutsu.



If you can carefully, view the pages of the manga in that specific chapter there is a lot of remark on Amaterasu. Cee confirms that Kumo already had full info on Amaterasu and its users. Blood signals Amaterasu usage. And there's the fact you can't use Amaterasu and Genjutsu at the same time especially considering the after-effects and chakra cost the user experiences. It'd be like Obito using both of his Kamui versions with one eye or Naruto creating two Rasengans with one hand.

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Though I'm not surprised with your reasoning in the OP, especially when you're using plot which is the typical pretext fans use when their favourite doesn't live up to their expectations ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All it takes is a glance,and the Raikage looked into his eyes long enough to comment about it,hence the time Sasuke could have used Genjutsu,yet didn"t.It's that simple,hence why there was plot shield.

It's not like he never looked into Sasuke's eyes,and was constantly moving,and i said how come Sasuke didn't use Genjutsu.

Instead we see Sasuke casting Genjutsu when he makes eye contact with multiple people,and getting them,yet not even using it on the Raikage at the perfect opportunity.

KB was fast too.

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Sasuke still got him in Genjutsu while he was moving at high speed toward him,yet while Sasuke,and the Raikage are both standing still making eye contact with one another Sasuke doesn't use Genjutsu.

Okay.

Now back to an earlier point you made.Madara physically restrained A then casted Genjutsu.Well Sasuke didn't need to do that considering they were both standing still looking into each others eyes.
 
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All it takes is a glance,and the Raikage looked into his eyes long enough to comment about it,hence the time Sasuke could have used Genjutsu,yet didn"t.It's that simple,hence why there was plot shield.

It's not like he never looked into Sasuke's eyes,and was constantly moving,and i said how come Sasuke didn't use Genjutsu.

Instead we see Sasuke casting Genjutsu when he makes eye contact with multiple people,and getting them,yet not even using it on the Raikage at the perfect opportunity.

KB was fast too.

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Sasuke still got him in Genjutsu while he was moving at high speed towardw him,yet while Sasuke,and the Raikage both standing still making eye contact with one another Sasuke doesn't use Genjutsu.

Okay.
Sasuke's worried bout that Solo Lariet. Bee has made that clear lmao.
 

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Sasuke's worried bout that Solo Lariet. Bee has made that clear lmao.
Your counter is weak,and off topic.I see you're still holding a grudge from the other threads.

If he was caught in genjutsu Darui would have saved him.

Ask Kishimoto why Sasuke didn't use genjutsu.
Sasuke could stop Darui,he didn't use Genjutsu because of plot.
 

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Genjutsu isn't instantaneous. Like all jutsu it requires molding chakra, composure and concentration. Sasuke just can't look at someone and put a spell on them. Genjutsu works by a caster using their chakra to take control of someone's mind. In a high speed combat situation, there is literally no time for it.


Pluse Ay's lightnng armor amps his brain activity and speed, to make him immune to simple illusions.

Madara had to stop Ay from moving for several second in order to catch him.
 

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Is that why Darui held Sasuke back with water? Lol
Sasuke was aiming for the Raikage when Darui surprised attacked him.Based on that Sasuke is obviously aware that Darui or any of the Samurai could attempt to attack him at any moment.

He still told Jugo,and Suigetsu that he doesn't need them.

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Clearly he's confident enough to fight on his own despite being teamed up on.

Genjutsu isn't instantaneous. Like all jutsu it requires molding chakra, composure and concentration. Sasuke just can't look at someone and put a spell on them. Genjutsu works by a caster using their chakra to take control of someone's mind. In a high speed combat situation, there is literally no time for it.


Pluse Ay's lightnng armor amps his brain activity and speed, to make him immune to simple illusions.

Madara had to stop Ay from moving for several second in order to catch him.


Also the whole time Sasuke was looking at A while building up chakra for Amaterasu,A was looking at his eyes to time out when Sasuke would unleash Amaterasu (which is fast in and of itself),so he could dodge.I said this in the OP.
 
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Sasuke was aiming for the Raikage when Darui surprised attacked him.Based on that Sasuke is obviously aware that Darui or any of the Samurai could attempt to attack him at any moment.

He still told Jugo,and Suigetsu that he doesn't need them.

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Clearly he's confident enough to fight on his own despite being teamed up on.
Taka has saved Sasuke's ass enough that he should be more reliant instead of pushing them away. That's why he's like that arrogant fighter that get's him killed due to going into situations he figured he could handle ends up being the opposite. Sasuke would of got killed by the Dwarf Tsukiage but was saved by Obito. Sasuke did well do defend against the Raikage but he wasn't about to let Sauce go without a fight. He tends to bit off more then he can chew and should be thankful Taka is there to save him.
 

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I've always speculated that he actually was trying to do exactly that when Suigetsu interfered. Which is why even though he showed he was more than capable of reacting to v1 Ay he didn't move, and was upset with Suigetsu for jumping between them but not with Jugo who interfered a few seconds before



Ot: Yeah he definitely could've used it in those moments
He wasn't upset with Suigetsu, he literally says "You guys, I don't need your help" emphasis on "You guys" referring to both Suigetsu and Juugo
 

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Sasuke was aiming for the Raikage when Darui surprised attacked him.Based on that Sasuke is obviously aware that Darui or any of the Samurai could attempt to attack him at any moment.

He still told Jugo,and Suigetsu that he doesn't need them.

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Clearly he's confident enough to fight on his own despite being teamed up on.
Darui was standing right next to the Raikage. Not much of a "surprise attack" when the guy attacking you is in clear view. Lol

How far did that confidence take him when he was trying to fight them on his own? Or trying to fight Killer Bee before he fully recovered? Lol

You are trying to make excuses for why Sasuke didn't "solo glance" Ay, when it wouldn't have worked out that easily anyway.
 

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Yea jumping into full view of the Raikage with his 2 right hand ninja at his side and being attacked by them while having the Sharingan activated is a surprise attack :facepalm
 

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Taka has saved Sasuke's ass enough that he should be more reliant instead of pushing them away. That's why he's like that arrogant fighter that get's him killed due to going into situations he figured he could handle ends up being the opposite. Sasuke would of got killed by the Dwarf Tsukiage but was saved by Obito. Sasuke did well do defend against the Raikage but he wasn't about to let Sauce go without a fight. He tends to bit off more then he can chew and should be thankful Taka is there to save him.

A few seconds earlier (before Sasuke tells them they are not needed)

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Jugo doesn't realize he was caught in Genjutsu,Sasuke saw through it right away,and was perfectly calm.Yeah he's skilled enough to be confident that he can handle them alone.

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Jugo,and Sugeitsu came in because they thought Sasuke needed their help.Sasuke knew he didn't,and told them.That's not neccessarily being arrogant,cause if your teamates are risking their life to join the battle when they are not needed,that can get in the way.They are putting themselves in danger when it's not needed.

Darui was standing right next to the Raikage. Not much of a "surprise attack" when the guy attacking you is in clear view. Lol

How far did that confidence take him when he was trying to fight them on his own? Or trying to fight Killer Bee before he fully recovered? Lol

You are trying to make excuses for why Sasuke didn't "solo glance" Ay, when it wouldn't have worked out that easily anyway.
The Raikage made eye contact with Sasuke multiple times - times when Genjutsu could have been used.What are you debating against? Whether the Raikage could have been caught in Genjutsu,or whether he would be saved from it?

I said it was a surprise attack because Sasuke was aiming for the Raikage,then Darui stepped up in front of him and launched his jutsu as Sasuke.

And stop diverging off topic.The KB fight was different.Sasuke easily owned C,and Darui would be the same if Sasuke ever had went up against him,this is alot different then fighting a guy who has a gigantic creature inside him helping him out.

I reffered to that battle to point out the topic of Genjutsu,you are doing it to point out teamwork.
 
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lol wtf. ppl in a state of denial trying to defend the silly plotholes.

Doesnt matter how fast u are. U look at MS eyes or sharingan eyes, you're done for. No matter how fast u are, eye contact = genjutsu. fact. plot saved his ass. period.
 
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lol wtf. ppl in a state of denial trying to defend the silly plotholes.

Doesnt matter how fast u are. U look at MS eyes or sharingan eyes, you're done for. No matter how fast u are, eye contact = genjutsu. fact. plot saved his ass. period.
Except that's not how it works. Simply looking in their eyes when the user isn't even attempting genjutsu doesn't cause instant genjutsu.
 

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1. Trying to down rate Ay for getting caught by Madaras genjutsu is petty of you. The fact that you say he was "easily owned" by it and would have lost like that if it was 1 vs 1 is a joke. It's like you read the manga and ignored everything you didn't like. First of all, Tsuande was hurt and in danger, Raikage lost focus for one second and this is what caused him to get caught. Even a distracted Hashirama worrying about his comrades could get caught in a genjutsu. It's Tsuandes fault he got caught.

2. You need to look directly into an Uchiha's eyes, seems peop,e still don't understand this. You can look at an uchiha and see their eyes, but if you stare directly into their eyes, that's when you'll get caught in genjutsu. Ay wasn't caught in Sasuke's genjutsu because he's too fast for the sharingan to follow, and because he knows how to fight uchiha. He said it himself that the sharingan is no match for him, you only show scans of Ay looking at Sasuke's face, that doesn't mean he looked directly into his eyes. Madara had to pick Ay up, bring him close and use genjutsu, that's how much it took to put Ay in genjutsu.

3. Ay was disappointed he got caught. He even said "me iof all people losing to sharingan genjutsu". He said this because he knows himself that it is something that would never happen under normal circumstances. You need to wait for Ay to be distracted and then incapacitate him, in order for sharingan genjutsu to catch him. Not something Ms Sasuke or anyone can do easily.
 
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