how op is naruto and sasuke now?

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their base forms are as strong if not stronger than when they fought kaguya so how strong do you think they are now?
 

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Not stronger than Kaguya in base, but they are the strongest beings alive currently.
 

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strong stronger sasukeandnaruto
 

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Naruto is strong enough to not be able to maintain a clone with his son.

Sasuke on a whole other level though, he is strong enough to not be able to finish a mission in less than 8 years without taking any break to visit his family.

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Their base forms are high Kage level. Naruto can go 1v1 against EMS Susanoo in his base form (like Hashi). Sasuke's base form is Rinnegan :|
 

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Naruto is strong enough to not be able to maintain a clone with his son.

Sasuke on a whole other level though, he is strong enough to not be able to finish a mission in less than 8 years without taking any break to visit his family.

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He did maintain it wanktard
 

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It's really hard to measure power levels in Naruto. You basically have to guess techniques that can be countered or not. Unless the difference of power is shown or extremely obvious, it is practically impossible to get solid judgement in any outcome conscerning these characters.
 

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No fanfics.

OT: Pretty strong.

Hashi faced EMS Susanoo without SM, Naruto is stronger than Hashi, it was never fan fic to begin with, Naruto doesn't need any of his modes to face EMS Susanoo
 

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Their base forms are high Kage level. Naruto can go 1v1 against EMS Susanoo in his base form (like Hashi). Sasuke's base form is Rinnegan :|
Bruh what?
 

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there`s no way in hell their base form is stronger than when they fought kaguya....depends on your definition of base
 

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Base Hashirama have wood human wood dragon and tons of other stuff Naruto don't have that.

Naruto has plenty of techniques in base. due to the extreme feeling of laziness right now I'm not going to bother googling them and listing them here lol

If kurama isnt helping, Naruto isn't winning any fights

A lot of Kurama's chakra has already been combined with Naruto anyway so his chakra reserve is already massive plus he has SM so he literally can fight easily without Kurama's help lol.

On the other hand if Sasuke didn't have his brothers eyes he'd gone blind by now and without the Sharinagan he wouldn't be winning many fights either with the zero vision.
 
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Naruto has plenty of techniques in base. due to the extreme feeling of laziness right now I'm not going to bother googling them and listing them here lol
I'm talking about jutsu's that can destroy an EMS Susano'o. Hashirama needed wood dragon and/or human to do it.
 
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