Why do people deny Manga Facts?

[Kakooli]

Rikudo Sage Mode Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke

Rikudo Sage Mode Naruto = Rinnegan Sasuke + 9 Bijuu chakra

So...Rikudo sage mode Naruto+Kurama+portions of the 8 other bijuu chakra+all of the natural energy in the world>Rinnegan Sasuke?

 

[take it easy]

Rikudo Sage Mode Naruto > Rinnegan Sasuke

Rikudo Sage Mode Naruto = Rinnegan Sasuke + 9 Bijuu chakra

Pretty much this.

So...Rikudo sage mode Naruto+Kurama+portions of the 8 other bijuu chakra+all of the natural energy in the world>Rinnegan Sasuke?

Lol, Naruto never used other TB chakra against Sasuke.

Also, NE wasn't power-up for Naruto because he has it naturally as part of his RSM.

 

[Chaosmark101]

So...Rikudo sage mode Naruto+Kurama+portions of the 8 other bijuu chakra+all of the natural energy in the world>Rinnegan Sasuke?

Naruto had Kurama's chakra+the chakra of the other 8 beasts+all of the natural energy in the world.

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Again stay mad Lol. Bold is obviously false.
If Naruto had all the NE in the world he would have either.
A. Turned to Stone
B. Blown Sasuke six ways to sunday.
#dealwithit

 

[Kakooli]

So just because both their bodies lost an arm. That's means it was a draw? Lol.

That's not how you judge a fight, just because two boxers or MMA fighters may both have black eyes, cuts,scrapes, bruised ears etc their fight is still judged by their ability, and performance compared to the other. Like knocking a dude out or a fighter getting back up, their mental state is equally as important as their physical state.

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Sasuke says he lost
EG. Winner Naruto
#dealwithit

It's a draw because both parties are in the exact same condition. Neither could move without dying, nor could they mold chakra or continue on fighting.

Naruto wanting to carry on fighting is not the same as being ABLE to continue, which he basically admitted that if he did continue he'd die. Since he'd need to move to be able to carry on.

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Saying he lost doesn't change the fact that neither party could do anything at this point. And I'm pretty sure Sasuke was referring to losing the idealogical battle, rather than the physical one, since you can clearly see they're in the same state here.

 

[Chaosmark101]

It's a draw because both parties are in the exact same condition. Neither could move without dying, nor could they mold chakra or continue on fighting.

Naruto wanting to carry on fighting is not the same as being ABLE to continue, which he basically admitted that if he did continue he'd die. Since he'd need to move to be able to carry on.

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Saying he lost doesn't change the fact that neither party could do anything at this point. And I'm pretty sure Sasuke was referring to losing the idealogical battle, rather than the physical one, since you can clearly see they're in the same state here.

Naruto still won because he got sasuke back.
Like how Sasuke won because he broke his bond with Naruto in part 1 :|

 

[Char Aznable]

So...Rikudo sage mode Naruto+Kurama+portions of the 8 other bijuu chakra+all of the natural energy in the world>Rinnegan Sasuke?

Sasuke who has several rinnegan techniques, his MS techniques, susanno AND the entire chakra supplies of 9 bijuu, yeah...

 

[Kakooli]

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Again stay mad Lol. Bold is obviously false.
If Naruto had all the NE in the world he would have either.
A. Turned to Stone
B. Blown Sasuke six ways to sunday.
#dealwithit

The bold part was already proven lol. You're just too stubborn to read.

Kurama's TBB was enough to neutralize 5 TBB'S. Give Naruto portions of the other 8 bijuu chakra+all of that natural energy that Kurama collected for him and I'd say that's fair. Especially since Sasuke took a portion of each of the bijuu's power with his own abilities, whereas Naruto got a handout via kurama and the other beasts and didn't have to do jack.

 

[Kakooli]

Sasuke who has several rinnegan techniques, his MS techniques, susanno AND the entire chakra supplies of 9 bijuu, yeah...

Your point was that RSM Naruto>Rinnegan Sasuke without the beasts. But Naruto isn't alone here so it isn't really a fair handicap, he has kurama (a seperate entity with near-infinite supplies of chakra who can also collect sage chakra for him) + portions of the 8 other bijuu's chakra.

 

[Chaosmark101]

The bold part was already proven lol. You're just too stubborn to read.

"Everything available" is obviously hyperbole as this could mean everything available in the surrounding area, the world or the universe.

Doesn't change the fact that Viz Didn't translate it as the whole world. You should take your own advice man.

Kurama's TBB was enough to neutralize 5 TBB'S. Give Naruto portions of the other 8 bijuu chakra+all of that natural energy that Kurama collected for him and I'd say that's fair. Especially since Sasuke took a portion of each of the bijuu's power with his own abilities, whereas Naruto got a handout via kurama and the other beasts and didn't have to do jack.

Sasuke's rinnegan (which grants the potential too be a JJ), sharingan (indras doujutsu)
EMS (grants PS) weren't handouts?

He had more Bijuu chakra then Naruto
And again he was given half of Hagoromo's power to beat madara.
How long are you going too keep this up Bro?

 

[Char Aznable]

Your point was that RSM Naruto>Rinnegan Sasuke without the beasts. But Naruto isn't alone here so it isn't really a fair handicap, he has kurama (a seperate entity with near-infinite supplies of chakra who can also collect sage chakra for him) + portions of the 8 other bijuu's chakra.

3 Tomoe and MS sharingan users have sealed and suppressed the Kybui chakra in the past.

Also Kurama gathers his chakra to lend Naruto, not sage chakra. Naruto has to mold that himself.

Sasuke's rinnegana and EMS more than tip the scales of power in Sasuke's favor. However, Naruto just had an edge.

 

[Kakooli]

"Everything available" is obviously hyperbole as this could mean everything available, the world or the universe.
Doesn't change the fact that Viz Doesn't say the whole world. You should take your own advice man.

Sasuke's rinnegan (which grants the potential too be a JJ), sharingan (indras doujutsu)
EMS (grants PS) weren't handouts?

He had more Bijuu chakra then Naruto
And again he was given half of Hagoromo's power to beat madara.
How long are you going too keep this up Bro?

"Everything available" means every Kurama gathered everything in the world that was available. How hard is that to understand? Translators of the Japanese scans have backed this up by saying that Kurama meant everything in the world, as I have shown you already.

Eye powers are merely tools and how well they're used depends on the user. Taking chakra from Naruto with his own powers or taking chakra from the bijuu he enslaved with his own powers> being giving free chakra by virtue of some animal living inside of you. That was my point.

I don't need to carry on any further, btw. Your point was that RSM Naruto>Rinnegan Sasuke and the manga has proven you wrong. I apologize for Naruto not being able to gain a conclusive victory over his rival in the entire series. You know, one where he could actually carry on fighting, mold chakra, or even move for that matter and Sasuke couldn't. I know it hurts but there's always chance in part 3 that Kishi might toss you a bone.

Nah, probably not.

 

[Kakooli]

3 Tomoe and MS sharingan users have sealed and suppressed the Kybui chakra in the past.

Also Kurama gathers his chakra to lend Naruto, not sage chakra. Naruto has to mold that himself.

Sasuke's rinnegana and EMS more than tip the scales of power in Sasuke's favor. However, Naruto just had an edge.

True, Sasuke did this in the beginning of part 2 yet strangely didn't do it in VOTE 2 but I don't see how that strengthens your point. All it proves is Kishi nerfed Sasuke.

Kurama "gathered all of the natural energy available" (in the world) for Naruto. Sage chakra is obtained by gathering natural energy.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Well when you think about it, sasuke hasn't even mastered his rinnegan yet, yet had an intent to kill, Naruto mastered his powers at least to a MUCH greater degree than Sasuke due to prior experience but he didn't have an intent to kill. It kind of balances out if sasuke mastered his rinnegan and had an intent to kill, Naruto would be dead, if Naruto had an intent to kill, sasuke would be dead. It balances out.

 

[Honord Sage]

Its just like when Sasuke said I GIVE UP to Naruto some people still deny it happen, how sad.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Out of curiosity...how do you force a spoon to eat Doritos?

Open your mouth as wide as you can and crunch those crisps.

 

[Praydara]

Honestly, it's fairly easy to see that the whole fight was meant to say 'Naruto and Sasuke are equal now', and I'm inclined the believe it. If Kishimoto intended for us to get anything else out of it, he'd have written it differently.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

They like to bring that up because they know how unfair an experienced Rinnegan Sasuke can be. Naruto had the power to pull out any jutsu out of his ass but still failed to tank a Mangekyou jutsu. Sasuke was truly nerfed ever since Juubito arc.