Bringing back Orochimaru as the villain.

[Romy9]

What do you guys think about this? In all honesty, I can think of him being a villain again, only, and I mean only in situations with Bolt/Sarada. Naruto and Sasuke obviously can't be involved since he's child's play to them. That's why I'm liking this new Mitsuki/Oro theory as it could happen when they're outside of village on some boring mission or something. SImilar to how it happened with Zabuza. What's your take on Oro in general as far as this Gaiden goes and Movie too?

 

[CopyCatBlueMage]

I thought Oro redeemed himself at the end of the original manga (Madara fight, saving all the Kages, etc.)

Seeing as this is all new characters, I doubt they will revert back to the old villains. I'd rather Oro end up more like Jiraya, a crazy old hermit that shows up when things get weird.

 

[Romy9]

I thought Oro redeemed himself at the end of the original manga (Madara fight, saving all the Kages, etc.)

Seeing as this is all new characters, I doubt they will revert back to the old villains. I'd rather Oro end up more like Jiraya, a crazy old hermit that shows up when things get weird.

You mean the panels in which Tsunade talks about him and Jiraiya? I thought so too but it's too vague. And we know nothing of him since the end of the war.

Oro was the best villain for me, but I agree that he could be cool as redemeed as well.

 

[Wparker6804]

I thought Oro redeemed himself at the end of the original manga (Madara fight, saving all the Kages, etc.)

Seeing as this is all new characters, I doubt they will revert back to the old villains. I'd rather Oro end up more like Jiraya, a crazy old hermit that shows up when things get weird.

He DID state that he didn't care anymore--you know "Kabuto failed, bla, bla, bla."
If he just stays with seclusion and keeps to himself with his experiments I'd be fine. He has practically cultist followers and plenty of people willing to "donate" themselves every 3 years. Couldn't be THAT much of a problem if he minds himself. He's still a crazy tool, but not AS MUCH of a problem.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Orochimaru is too fodder.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Tobidara for villain

 

[Praydara]

It's not difficult to believe Orochimaru will be much stronger if he does return as the villain. Otherwise, like you said, Naruto and/or Sasuke would just completely destroy him, making him not even close to a threat. If they do bring him back as a villain, you can be sure that he'll be much, much stronger than he was before.

 

[Bronze]

Not really.

For starters, Orochimaru will be extremely aged. He was 54/55 by P2 and more than 10 years have passed since P2 by Epilogue's timeline, so Orochimaru is estimated to be in his 60s or 70s. He lacks the power to run for a villain after seeing Naruto and Sasuke being Demi-Gods, and Orochimaru is only as powerful as low or mid Kage tier. The most important of all, a villain had been hinted by someone imitating Sasuke's name to ruin his reputation.

There is no point in bringing him back as villain. His role is already complete. In fact, he was irrelevant for majority of P2 and as the said reasons above.

 

[Praydara]

Not really.

For starters, Orochimaru will be extremely aged. He was 54/55 by P2 and more than 10 years have passed since P2 by Epilogue's timeline, so Orochimaru is estimated to be in his 60s or 70s. He lacks the power to run for a villain after seeing Naruto and Sasuke being Demi-Gods, and Orochimaru is only as powerful as low or mid Kage tier. The most important of all, a villain had been hinted by someone imitating Sasuke's name to ruin his reputation.

There is no point in bringing him back as villain. His role is already complete. In fact, he was irrelevant for majority of P2 and as the said reasons above.

Extremely aged doesn't mean anything for someone who can switch bodies whenever he wants, though, and as for the power bit it's not unreasonable to say he'll have grown in power since the end of part two. In fact, it's perfectly reasonable, given that his goal in life is to become the 'ultimate being'.

Kishimoto confirmed he'll be coming back, too. [

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[Bronze]

Extremely aged doesn't mean anything for someone who can switch bodies whenever he wants, though, and as for the power bit it's not unreasonable to say he'll have grown in power since the end of part two. In fact, it's perfectly reasonable, given that his goal in life is to become the 'ultimate being'.

Kishimoto confirmed he'll be coming back, too. [

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He would be condemned by the Shinobi Alliance, therefore will not be given the right to switch bodies. He's not going to get stronger. His strength is multiplied depending on how strong the person he's consuming, and by the current timeline of the Shinobi world, all of them will be fodders. And even if he did get stronger; not strong enough to propose any threat.

Doesn't mean he will come back as villain. His role might just be a minor one, like P2.

 

[Praydara]

He would be condemned by the Shinobi Alliance, therefore will not be given the right to switch bodies. He's not going to get stronger. His strength is multiplied depending on how strong the person he's consuming, and by the current timeline of the Shinobi world, all of them will be fodders. And even if he did get stronger; not strong enough to propose any threat.

Doesn't mean he will come back as villain. His role might just be a minor one, like P2.

I don't think Orochimaru would really care what the shinobi alliance tells him he can and cannot do, though. The only real individual threats to him right now are Naruto and Sasuke, one of which is busy running a village and the other is out doing... whatever Sasuke's doing, so Orochimaru has plenty of leeway to do what he wants. As for the second part, that isn't the only way for him to get stronger. According to one of the databooks, his hobby is inventing new jutsu, and we've seen how heavily he's already modified his body.

What I'm saying is, I don't think it's at all unreasonable for Kishimoto to bring Orochimaru back with buffed powers. From a writer's perspective, it's easy to explain how he would get strong enough to pose a decent threat. Whether or not Kishimoto does it, though, is up to him.

 

[Bronze]

I don't think Orochimaru would really care what the shinobi alliance tells him he can and cannot do, though. The only real individual threats to him right now are Naruto and Sasuke, one of which is busy running a village and the other is out doing... whatever Sasuke's doing, so Orochimaru has plenty of leeway to do what he wants. As for the second part, that isn't the only way for him to get stronger. According to one of the databooks, his hobby is inventing new jutsu, and we've seen how heavily he's already modified his body.

What I'm saying is, I don't think it's at all unreasonable for Kishimoto to bring Orochimaru back with buffed powers. From a writer's perspective, it's easy to explain how he would get strong enough to pose a decent threat. Whether or not Kishimoto does it, though, is up to him.

Not really. Any of the Gokage, in particular Ay, Onoki, Gaara and (potentially) Mei can beat him in a fight. There is Killer Bee, Kakashi, Darui and many major characters from the war can fight Orochimaru. Kabuto furthered he would fight Orochimaru after a heart-change. Orochimaru is not a threat to any Jonin or Kage individual, to let alone be a threat to the story. I already made it clear that Orochimaru will not grow significantly strong to propose a legitimate threat.

If he was ever to play as villain, he will be a minor one.

 

[Praydara]

Not really. Any of the Gokage, in particular Ay, Onoki, Gaara and (potentially) Mei can beat him in a fight. There is Killer Bee, Kakashi, Darui and many major characters from the war can fight Orochimaru. Kabuto furthered he would fight Orochimaru after a heart-change. Orochimaru is not a threat to any Jonin or Kage individual, to let alone be a threat to the story. I already made it clear that Orochimaru will not grow significantly strong to propose a legitimate threat.

If he was ever to play as villain, he will be a minor one.

Is it unreasonable, though, for Kishimoto to write Orochimaru stronger than we last saw him? I mean ultimately, we're just debating something that's completely up in the air. Orochimaru could feasibly show up for one panel and get killed in one shot if Kishimoto decides to write it that way. I just think there's more merit to writing him as a legitimate threat to the story once he shows up again.

 

[Red Slayer]

Not really.

For starters, Orochimaru will be extremely aged. He was 54/55 by P2 and more than 10 years have passed since P2 by Epilogue's timeline, so Orochimaru is estimated to be in his 60s or 70s. He lacks the power to run for a villain after seeing Naruto and Sasuke being Demi-Gods, and Orochimaru is only as powerful as low or mid Kage tier. The most important of all, a villain had been hinted by someone imitating Sasuke's name to ruin his reputation.

There is no point in bringing him back as villain. His role is already complete. In fact, he was irrelevant for majority of P2 and as the said reasons above.

He has Zetsu body what age are u talking about?