[Discussion] Could the alliance even tickle Kaido?

[Bogard]

- Diable jambe Sanji can't budge Doflamingo an inch
- Injection shot and red hawk only cause him superficial damages
- Counter-shock(Law's apparent strongest physical attack) only tickles a "dying" Doflamingo(just after a gamma knife attack he used at the cost of his life span)
- Gear2 tickles a weakened Doflamingo
- Even after all this, he still takes three gear4 attacks without slowing down

If Doflamingo can take all those hits(even in monster form) without slowing down, how could they even hope in scratching Kaido, the strongest beast in the One Piece verse?

 

[sage1999]

Thats the problem... Kaido is gonna beat the crap out of them

Unless, of course, Sabo joins their crew to fight Kaido, and even then their chances of winning are slim.

Or maybe Kaido is gonna be 3 hokagefied... all hype but no feat

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

I think Kaidos first mate can solo the Alliance

 

[Cigbeast]

I imagine against Kaido it wouldn't be series of 1v1 giving him a breather between each. We've seen that the teamwork between the strawhats top fighters greatly increases their prowess. Although i still doubt they could put him down but it'd be different from the guerrilla like fighting they've been doing.

 

[Tomato God]

I imagine against Kaido it wouldn't be series of 1v1 giving him a breather between each. We've seen that the teamwork between the strawhats top fighters greatly increases their prowess. Although i still doubt they could put him down but it'd be different from the guerrilla like fighting they've been doing.

I beg to differ while the strawhats have excellent team work not just in the m3 bur across the whole strength spectrum guerilla warfare isnt a detriment but an asset a nine vs one, strategic and well placed chaotic assaults and timely retreats is something the strawhats can almost take anyone with. A crew whose team work is great and inclination to chaos is second nature, as well as massive determination ia a hufe asset.

In the chaos of guerilla warfare the strawhats hats have the upper hand.

 

[Bogard]

I think Kaidos first mate can solo the Alliance

I think it too lol. Poor Zoro

I imagine against Kaido it wouldn't be series of 1v1 giving him a breather between each. We've seen that the teamwork between the strawhats top fighters greatly increases their prowess. Although i still doubt they could put him down but it'd be different from the guerrilla like fighting they've been doing.

I'm just wondering how much Kaido will have to be weakened for them to stand a chance

 

[WoldOfFingo]

If Kaido is roughly a bit stronger than an admiral it would not be that much of a problem
Law, Luffy , Zoro and Sanji together could give any top tier a very high difficulty battle
The problem probably lies in the fact that he has a gigantic fleet of followers with 500 zoan users and probably a few (first and second mate) who can give a fight to an admiral as well (like Jozu and Marco)

 

[ssjelf]

I imagine it will be a bit of time before they fight kaido, 2 arcs at least. That might be enough time to gain strength and more alliance members.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think it too lol. Poor Zoro

I'm just wondering how much Kaido will have to be weakened for them to stand a chance

With the way this is going, it looks like Kaido is gonna have to lose a majority of his strength in order for them to even combat him. Their best bet is working with Big Mom and letting her fend him off until they're stronger.

 

[saw2097]

I think its safe to assume they will be stronger then they are now when they face Kaidou.

 

[Hexuze]

Well I don't expect it happening any time soon, so I'm not that worried about it. Zoro is more than likely to improve during the Wano arc and Luffy's haki will improve over time, along with his mastery over gear 4th. I'm interested what Kid can do now though.

 

[ahmo]

No worries for me, they'd find a way to get around it (oda would)

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Right now, I think a G4 Luffy + Gamma Law + Ashura (Bandana) Zoro + Hells Memories (which is > Diable Jambe) Sanji + The other crew members in a fight vs Kaidou might be able to push him to actually try, but he would wipe the floor with them all

 

[Dr Strangelove]

What people need to ask themselves is how the alliance would fair up against the other Yonko.
In my opinion the alliance may be able to take him on, but barely. We really need to see what the extent of Kaido's powers are though before anyone can make a guess that is at all accurate.

 

[ultraChalk]

He's going to get stronger ofc. :| If he was automatically Kaido level right now, we wouldn't have much of a fight here now would we?

 

[KCN]

Doesn't Kaidou have fleets on fleets of zoan users? Not only is kaidou himself an issue but his crew is hyped to be bad news as well.

I really don't see how strawhats/law have a chance. the way doffy was speaking was like kaidou could kill him in a split second, no diff. doffy thrashed law 3 times and was juggling law and luffy like it's happy days. and they still couldn't take him out despite his weak state.

I don't believe they'll be fighting kaidou anytime soon. if they do, they're gonna most definitely get external help otherwise they'll get thrashed.

 

[Caliburn]

The point of the alliance and the original plan was to avoid a direct confrontation with Kaidou. The original intention was to have Kaidou clash with Doflamingo and then go in for the kill. The intention wasn't, at least not Law's, to charge straight ahead against Kaidou and even then Law only gave the plan like 20% chance of succeeding or something, don't remember the exact number.

And Law also explained that there are only two ways of surviving in the New World: You join a Yonkou or you fight a Yonkou. Also you have heard Cavendish an Law talking, they're trying to cause a massive storm. At this point Big Mum is also half and half involved and you also got the alliance of Hawkins, Apoo and Kidd that is also aiming for the head of a Yonkou. After Dressrosa, the New World will be in an uproar, so who knows what might happen when Yonkou's get challenged on all sides and even come into conflict with one another?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

They won't beat Kaido. Big Mom and Kaido will fight for control of Shirahoshi and Caesar. Kaido will beat BM high-extreme diff and BB will kill a weakened Kaido then steal his DF, the strongest Zoan.

 

[saw2097]

Once upon a time, Crocodile was in the same position that Kaidou is in now.

Luffy and his crew had trouble against his weakest thugs and everyone talked about how powerful and invincible Crocodile was, yet when the time came a few arcs later, the Straw Hats brought Crocodile and his top guys to their knees.

The Straw Hats specialize in going up against impossible odds and winning anyway.

Even Law noted that the Straw Hats leave nothing but miracles as they travel.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Once upon a time, Crocodile was in the same position that Kaidou is in now.

i should have stopped reading here tbh