Why people ignore tor Toneri gained power to destroy earth.

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Don't you know about the ? The current prevailing theory about the formation of the early earth and its moon? According to it, Earth was hit by an object way larger than the moon (twice, actually, in the computer simulations). And we still have an earth.

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Right now, the evidence (most compelling?) that supports the theory is the lighter-density of the moon and its relatively small iron core, which suggests that the moon was created by the outer layers of the earth that were stripped into orbit by the impact of an object the size of Mars. Rather than the moon having been formed at the same time as the earth, or the moon being a captured object.

Whether or not it really happened, the computer simulations don't exactly show something the size of earth busting into a bunch of pieces even if it's hit by something bigger than the moon.

What would count as terminal velocity to a moon? Do you know what terminal velocity is? I'm thinking the moon doesn't care about terminal velocity, the atmosphere doesn't have a chance when it hits. Terminal velocity doesn't even apply, it would be like, "**** you atmosphere!" and vaporize it.

that theory applied to an earth that was still forming. i know of it. but if the moon crashed into the earth at a good speed then its good by earth! earth would be in large pieces destroyed!
 

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that theory applied to an earth that was still forming. i know of it. but if the moon crashed into the earth at a good speed then its good by earth! earth would be in large pieces destroyed!
Wtf? Early earth is still the same size as today's earth except it was almost uninhabitable and if a mars sized planet couldn't destroy the earth. What makes you think the moon that's more smaller can? To destroy the earth you would need to surpass it's GBE.
 

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The giant impact hypothesis, sometimes called the Big Splash, or The Theia Impact states that the Moon was formed out of the debris left over from an indirect collision between the Earth and an astronomical body the size of Mars, approximately 4.5 billion years ago, in the Hadean eon; about 20–100 million years after the solar system coalesced.[1] The colliding body is sometimes called Theia, for the mythical Greek Titan who was the mother of Selene, the goddess of the Moon.[2]

The giant impact hypothesis is currently the favoured scientific hypothesis for the formation of the Moon.[3] Supporting evidence includes the Earth's spin and Moon's orbit having similar orientations,[4] Moon samples indicating the surface of the Moon was once molten, the Moon's relatively small iron core, lower density compared to the Earth, evidence of similar collisions in other star systems (that result in debris disks), and that giant collisions are consistent with the leading theories of the formation of the solar system. Finally, the stable isotope ratios of lunar and terrestrial rock are identical, implying a common origin.[5]

There remain several questions concerning the best current models of the giant impact hypothesis, however.[6] The energy of such a giant impact is predicted to have heated Earth to produce a global 'ocean' of magma; yet there is no evidence of the resultant planetary differentiation of the heavier material sinking into Earth's mantle. At present, there is no self-consistent model that starts with the giant impact event and follows the evolution of the debris into a single moon. Other remaining questions include when the Moon lost its share of volatile elements and why Venus, which also experienced giant impacts during its formation, does not host a similar moon.

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Theia /θiːə/ is a hypothesized ancient planet in the early Solar System that according to the giant impact hypothesis collided with the Early Earth around 4.533 billion years ago (BYa).[1] Theia was about the size of Mars; if the impact were not glancing, it could have destroyed Earth. In the end, Theia's debris gathered together around Earth to form what was the early Moon. After the debris from the collision flew into space, some scientists think that it originally formed two moons[2][3] which later merged to form the single Moon we know today. Others,[3] however, believe that the two-moon hypothesis is not necessary to explain the difference in the faces of the near and far sides of the Moon. The theory also explains the reason that Earth's core is larger than it would be for a body its size[citation needed], since according to the theory, Theia's core merged with Earth's.
 
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It will put a large hole the same size as USA on the earth surface if Naruto earth size is same as our earth size.

Moon is larger than the USA by a massive margin.

OT: The moon, to destroy the earth, would need to accelerate at a faster rate than the current rate it would accelerate by the distance of the moon and earth. Other than that, Toneri is simply a powerhouse with no skilled usage of handling it. Madara has superior raw power and would shit punk Toneri like a child.
 

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Wtf? Early earth is still the same size as today's earth except it was almost uninhabitable and if a mars sized planet couldn't destroy the earth. What makes you think the moon that's more smaller can? To destroy the earth you would need to surpass it's GBE.

early earth was nothing but a planet of lava so it doesnt matter if it got hit it was a liquid!!! current earth is almost half solid itd be completely fcked if the moon crashed into it at a fast speed.
 

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early earth was nothing but a planet of lava so it doesnt matter if it got hit it was a liquid!!! current earth is almost half solid itd be completely fcked if the moon crashed into it at a fast speed.
It was still larger than a mars sized object and it was mostly molten rock.
 

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early earth was nothing but a planet of lava so it doesnt matter if it got hit it was a liquid!!! current earth is almost half solid itd be completely fcked if the moon crashed into it at a fast speed.
"Theia is thought to have struck the Earth at an oblique angle when the latter was nearly fully formed. "
 

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early earth was nothing but a planet of lava so it doesnt matter if it got hit it was a liquid!!! current earth is almost half solid itd be completely fcked if the moon crashed into it at a fast speed.

Earth is mostly a liquid planet of lava to this day. The only solid parts are the core and the crust which is only a few miles thick. Even if it weren't, the impact would turn it into liquid. Also, it doesn't matter whether it melts or not, because at the right scale is . It would move the same way regardless of being solid or liquid.
 

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The giant impact hypothesis, sometimes called the Big Splash, or The Theia Impact states that the Moon was formed out of the debris left over from an indirect collision between the Earth and an astronomical body the size of Mars, approximately 4.5 billion years ago, in the Hadean eon; about 20–100 million years after the solar system coalesced.[1] The colliding body is sometimes called Theia, for the mythical Greek Titan who was the mother of Selene, the goddess of the Moon.[2]

The giant impact hypothesis is currently the favoured scientific hypothesis for the formation of the Moon.[3] Supporting evidence includes the Earth's spin and Moon's orbit having similar orientations,[4] Moon samples indicating the surface of the Moon was once molten, the Moon's relatively small iron core, lower density compared to the Earth, evidence of similar collisions in other star systems (that result in debris disks), and that giant collisions are consistent with the leading theories of the formation of the solar system. Finally, the stable isotope ratios of lunar and terrestrial rock are identical, implying a common origin.[5]

There remain several questions concerning the best current models of the giant impact hypothesis, however.[6] The energy of such a giant impact is predicted to have heated Earth to produce a global 'ocean' of magma; yet there is no evidence of the resultant planetary differentiation of the heavier material sinking into Earth's mantle. At present, there is no self-consistent model that starts with the giant impact event and follows the evolution of the debris into a single moon. Other remaining questions include when the Moon lost its share of volatile elements and why Venus, which also experienced giant impacts during its formation, does not host a similar moon.

Theia


Theia /θiːə/ is a hypothesized ancient planet in the early Solar System that according to the giant impact hypothesis collided with the Early Earth around 4.533 billion years ago (BYa).[1] Theia was about the size of Mars; if the impact were not glancing, it could have destroyed Earth. In the end, Theia's debris gathered together around Earth to form what was the early Moon. After the debris from the collision flew into space, some scientists think that it originally formed two moons[2][3] which later merged to form the single Moon we know today. Others,[3] however, believe that the two-moon hypothesis is not necessary to explain the difference in the faces of the near and far sides of the Moon. The theory also explains the reason that Earth's core is larger than it would be for a body its size[citation needed], since according to the theory, Theia's core merged with Earth's.

You cherry-picked this article for only the earth-destroying bits and neglected to include the bits mentioning that it's thought the earth was hit many times over the duration of its formation (were they all just glancing blows?) or the part where other scientists hypothesized that Theia would be the one totally destroyed by a head-on collision. Hahahahah wikipedia.
 
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Peeps just mad that hyuga can achieve something rivaling their precious rinnegan Lol
 

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Why do people deny feats ? If Kishi allowed SP to give Naruto those powers then it's canon, Naruto can tank planet-busting jutsu. U_U
 

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You cherry-picked this article for only the earth-destroying bits and neglected to include the bits mentioning that it's thought the earth was hit several times over the duration of earth's formation or the part where other scientists hypothesized that Theia would be the one totally destroyed by a head-on collision.


I just want to share some info.

But its all just theories.
 

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Itachi's tsukuyomi vs his genjutsu. Which is stronger?
 

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Why do people deny feats ? If Kishi allowed SP to give Naruto those powers then it's canon, Naruto can tank planet-busting jutsu. U_U

Actually Golden wheel is not planet busting but planet slicing attack

Busting=explosion will occur while slicing is without explosion.

Busting a planet need large amount of energy because busting a planet is destroying a planet completely.

Slicing a planet need less energy compared to busting a planet. Actually what gave golden wheel attack a capability to slice through moon is the sharpness of that energy sword plus the forces Toneri put on that attack

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Take watermelon as example. you have very sharp Katana sword and 5 cm solid iron. You cut the fruit, the result, you only cut that fruit into half but not destroy it completely.

You take the solid iron and you put it between 2 vertical support like below

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And then you try to cut it using Katana but the katana unable to cut the iron. The iron still intact and tanked the sword attack nicely

After that you take this item

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First you throw the grenade at that watermelon and the result the watermelon destroy completely.

Second you throw the grenade at that Solid Iron and the grenade explosion blow the iron into pieces.

The situation above can be applies to Naruto also.

He can servived sword cutting but he cant survived planet busting attack.
 

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I just want to share some info.

But its all just theories.

Not even a theory, it's a hypothesis. When you say "It's just theories" you are using the colloquial usage of the word theory which is more like an hypothesis. A hypothesis is a proposed explanation for a phenomenon, before it's even been tested.

But it's been tested in computer models and the studying of the rocks of the moon and earth and composition of the solar system (and we're starting to gain data from comets), and it's the most compelling because it's so far one hypothesis that connects a whole lot of dots.

But the situation is extremely complex and the computer simulation needs to account for a whole lot more, and the earth's composition is not in the same condition as it would've been after the event because of plate tectonics and stuff continued to be added to the earth after the fact by more meteors landing on Earth over time. One scientist said it would help if we had a way to find out whether the earth's mantle is homogenous, but it might be impossible. It's a hypothesis that probably won't be elevated to a theory because some of the necessary data is so difficult to collect.
 

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Toneri said he would "destroy the Sage's world". The Sage created the system that inspired ninjutsu; human civilization. "World" can mean "human civilization". That's what I'm going on. The Sage didn't create the planet Earth but the world that is on it. Kaguya arrived on Earth when humans and the Earth had already existed for a while. She didn't create it, either.

Sword of Naboko sumthing like that.

Tho im still not talking bout the moon smashing talking about light of justice
 

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Sword of Naboko sumthing like that.

Tho im still not talking bout the moon smashing talking about light of justice

Ah, the Sword of Nunoboko. A tool he used to create.... he's still only using the word for "World" aka the Ninja World aka Human Civilization. And Obito said he was going to destroy it. By that he means he was going to kill the people who are in his way so that he's able to ensure the completion of his plan. He needs the earth so there's no way he was talking about the earth. If World and Earth were really so interchangeable then how come he never used the word "Earth" even once?

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The earth was around before the Sage was even born.
 
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Science disagrees

Read the above posts. This is not the real World. We are talking about NV here. The Moon was formed from the Earth. If the Moon took a huge quantity of matter from the Earth, Earth would become unstable. Since the Moon was a sealing stone, it wouldn't be that big. If it falls to earth, it will cause damage but not outright destroy Earth.
 
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