Hirudora vs FRS vs Kirin

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This thread should be retitled "KG's stomping grounds"
 

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His grip loosened=Lost control. And even if it was different, the point still stands.

No it does not i already gave a perfect example nor does your point still stand.




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Wrong. When comparing the same type of explosion with the same properties? Sure. If not? No. Otherwise we'd be saying that C2>FRS, even though C2 couldn't even kill Hebi Sasuke. So wrong right here.

Wrong again kid kirin destroyed the hideout because it had the power to do so size does not matter as we've seen in the last chidori which has no explosion present was able to destroy a meteor the size of the leaf not because of its size but because it has the raw power to destroy a giant rock.

When it has a better feat than eradicating V3 then we can talk. I don't two flying rat's asses about what it did for the environment.

For 1 i said what it did to the mountain not what it did for an environment tha phuck is thats suppose to mean? When you can prove it only destroyed a v3 then stfu also Destroying a mountain size object > V3 susanoo simple as that but i can bet if hirudora destroyed something that big this would not be for debate.

Lol, are you dumb? That is evidence+my word against yours. It's a fact that V4 Susanoo is always formed with Yata Mirror. To say

Not a fact v4 susanoo is always formed with yata mirror because if it was it would mean Itachi does not decide to whip yata mirror up it comes up on its own when we saw Itachi using yata mirror with his v3 susanoo against sasuke and then against kabuto no yata mirror present because he did not want it to be same applies with a v4 susanoo unless proven otherwise?


Whether Kishimoto cares about backing shit up doesn't mean shit. If he drew a shield being smashed, he wouldn't have said that it were invincible, regardless of that being true, the chapter later. Madara being unstoppable isn't even the same case, but I can't expect you have all people to figure that out. If Double Rinnegan Madara had been defeated, then nobody would've said that he was invincible. That's just plain common sense.

No sense was Made here Madara was said to be invincible to only have him been defeated 2 chapters later or i should say double rinnegan was said to be invincible. Kishi clearly does not care about the hype Kaguya was defeated by water down versions of Naruto & Sasuke yet she's the best. Moral of the story Alot of things kishi put hype behind never lived up to them no reason Yata mirror is any difference also to stop this whole argument i never said yata mirror was destroyed to begin with i said that his v4 susanoo was and read above because yata mirror does not automatically come up when v4 susanoo is active.


Which is based on nothing of course.

Which is based off that v3 susanoo has shown 0 resistance to mountain level techs such as Kirin Hirudora and FRS which are not mountain level has a chance at destroying a v3 susanoo Mountain size object > V3 susanoo.

Evidence has been presented. Stop moaning and actually counter it with something that makes sense.

O it does make sense but probably not to you of course because its opposing your arguments. Also whats all this about crying im just pleading my case and you come out nowhere like shut the **** up because i rustle your jimmies that much.

Lol shitty ass example. Your grip loosens because your physical body took a hit while you are using that same physical body to hold onto the pan. Madara isn't using his physical strength to use Mokuton, so hitting him isn't going to cause Mokuton to be cancelled unless he were put in a state where he can't maintain it. Dead or knocked out.

Know my grip loosened because i took damage or was hurt/Distracted/In pain also how does that disprove anything We've seen a bijuu dama cancel out when Kurama took damage that does not require physical body to maintain same for killerbee who cannot spam his bijuu dama when amaterasu was roasting him because of the pain/damage he had took Also we've seen how gaara sand is weakened or loosen if he takes damage or something overpower his sand he looks exhausted or overwhelmed

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Gaara after being hit with chidori his sand dome collapse and it does not require his physical body to keep up with yet it went down why because he was distracted by the pain later he passed out because it was to extreme. your shitty counter made no sense nice try though.

Not really. He took no damage. He was on the ground for a good 3-5 seconds.

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Itachi went down when kirin did Sasuke said a full sentence atleast 20 seconds tops but this does not matter he was still knocked out.



I'm just telling you how it is. The only one catching feelings is the guy who complains every time we debate. It's like you have a secret grudge. Maybe cause everything I post is 1000x more logical than anything you could ever dream to post.
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No it does not i already gave a perfect example nor does your point still stand.

Your example was pure ass.



Wrong again kid kirin destroyed the hideout because it had the power to do so size does not matter as we've seen in the last chidori which has no explosion present was able to destroy a meteor the size of the leaf not because of its size but because it has the raw power to destroy a giant rock.
Which literally doesn't prove anything I said wrong. Unless you think C2>FRS, don't compare the sizes of each attack to determine the strongest one. Kirin being strong enough to do so doesn't change the fact that comparing Kirin and FRS and Hirudora based on explosion size makes no sense. Neither does Chidori not exploding.


For 1 i said what it did to the mountain not what it did for an environment tha phuck is thats suppose to mean? When you can prove it only destroyed a v3 then stfu also Destroying a mountain size object > V3 susanoo simple as that but i can bet if hirudora destroyed something that big this would not be for debate.
Mountain=Environment. Lol. The rest has been countered. I'm waiting for you to actually disprove the claim that V3 is what took Kirin, because your empty words and shit examples aren't going to prove anything.



Not a fact v4 susanoo is always formed with yata mirror because if it was it would mean Itachi does not decide to whip yata mirror up it comes up on its own when we saw Itachi using yata mirror with his v3 susanoo against sasuke and then against kabuto no yata mirror present because he did not want it to be same applies with a v4 susanoo unless proven otherwise?

Not really. Cause V4 Susanoo isn't V3 Susanoo. It's really that simple. I guess Sasuke's bow can be formed w/ V2 because he can form it with V3, going by your shitty ass logic of course. Lol. Get that stuff out of here. Every time V4 has been used, Yata has been used with it. Without exception, even when it wasn't needed (Against Nagato). Same principle as Sasuke's V3 Susanoo. It will ALWAYS carry a bow. ALWAYS. I have no reason to believe V4 doesn't always carry Yata. Evidence and scans show that it do. Bringing other Susanoo variants doesn't mean shit.



No sense was Made here Madara was said to be invincible to only have him been defeated 2 chapters later or i should say double rinnegan was said to be invincible.

Irrelevant. Claims are made, and then they can be proven wrong. That's how everything works. Claims aren't made when they have already been proven wrong. What is so hard for your puny ass brain to understand about that? No claim is made when said claim was proven wrong a minute ago.


Kishi clearly does not care about the hype
Whether or not he cares about it's validity is irrelevant. No one says something that was debunked a minute ago. Simple common sense.

Kaguya was defeated by water down versions of Naruto & Sasuke yet she's the best.

Except no one said that Kaguya was unbeatable after she was beaten. So I don't really care if she lost. Kaguya being the strongest doesn't change the fact that Naruto and Sasuke beat her, w/ help of course, nor does it change the fact she's the best.


Moral of the story Alot of things kishi put hype behind never lived up to them no reason Yata mirror is any difference also to stop this whole argument
This part would be relevant if this argument had anything to do with Yata Mirror's hype being legit or not.

i never said yata mirror was destroyed to begin with i said that his v4 susanoo was and read above because yata mirror does not automatically come up when v4 susanoo is active.
Except it does. Every time it has been used in the Manga. Gonna need to see real evidence if you disagree.


Which is based off that v3 susanoo has shown 0 resistance to mountain level techs such as Kirin Hirudora and FRS which are not mountain level has a chance at destroying a v3 susanoo Mountain size object > V3 susanoo.
Except it did, when it blocked Kirin. FRS and Hirudora not being very small Mountain/Large Hill level is nothing but a baseless assumption made by you because you don't have any real evidence to support your claim. I don't give two shits about your empty claims buddy.

O it does make sense but probably not to you of course because its opposing your arguments. Also whats all this about crying im just pleading my case and you come out nowhere like shut the **** up because i rustle your jimmies that much.
1. You said it, so it can't make sense.

2. It doesn't make sense because nothing but your own delusions supports your argument.

The only one who is rustled is the guy always talking about my arguments. Lol. Grow up kiddo. I don't need any more retarded fans than I already have.

Know my grip loosened because i took damage or was hurt/Distracted/In pain also how does that disprove anything We've
Already said this. Not relevant to Madara since gripping an object with your physical body has shit to do with gripping Mokuton.

seen a bijuu dama cancel out when Kurama took damage that does not require physical body to maintain same for killerbee who cannot spam his bijuu dama when amaterasu was roasting him because of the pain/damage he had took Also we've seen how gaara sand is weakened or loosen if he takes damage or something overpower his sand he looks exhausted or overwhelmed
Bijuu Dama was never canceled by physical damage, nor is there proof that Killer B can't use Bijuu Dama when under pain because he never attempted it, and even if he can. Being burnt alive by Amaterasu>>>>Being knocked out for a few seconds when it comes to damage.

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Gaara after being hit with chidori his sand dome collapse and it does not require his physical body to keep up with yet it went down why because he was distracted by the pain later he passed out because it was to extreme. your shitty counter made no sense nice try though.

1. That wound is more damage than Itachi took from Kirin. So your point fails here.

2. Get proof that the pain caused him to be unable to maintain his sand, cause as far as I'm concerned it's nothing but bullshit. Kind of like all the posts you typically make.



Just got slapped around by Lee, yet he can still control his hand w/o fail. Not to mention it didn't drop the moment he took the wound, so there is no way that the wound is what caused him to drop the sand. The fact that there was a hole in his defense is why he dropped it, cause there is no point in having it up how it was.

Nice try though.


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Itachi went down when kirin did Sasuke said a full sentence atleast 20 seconds tops but this does not matter he was still knocked out.

He was on the ground, for less than half a minute at best. That barely counts as being knocked out.
 

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Fact is, we didn't see Hirudora destroying Susanoo. All we have to make a conclusion is, that the binding of Mokuton became weaker. This is no evidence at all. It's clear that Kirin is the winner; a mountain busting flash that indeed broke Susanoo. As long as there is no evidence that Hirudora actually broke Susanoo, it didn't break it, period.

At this point, Kishimoto would have shown an evidence. Like against the Bijuus, who broke Susanoo with their tails as we saw a piece of Susanoo's sword flying away and Madara losing an arm.

I think that this debate is pretty useless and you, KidGamer, are wrong, cuz at the bottom line, you have no scan to back up your claim of Hirudora actually destroying the Susanoo construct.

Almost gave me cancer. Then you act like you're all correct...Comical shit right here.

Need some explanation for this :

- Madara wanted to get the Bijuus quickly. Why leave Obito on his own to battle them? He scolded Obito for even this Why would he then leave and ignore getting the Bijuus?

- Why was he out for almost an entire Chapter?

- Mokutun grip loosened. That only happens if the user gets hit. The user was protected by Susanoo..How did he get hit?

- I'm done holding back

Madara was an Edo he'd have no reason to deactivate Susanoo randomly...Unless you're telling me he'd deactivate it randomly while in AT's Range.

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- Evidence he got hit and Susanoo was destroyed...Whining and complaining but have none except "He was distracted" LOL piss poor.
 
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Dickriding is not a form of transportation.

How much coke have you snorted if you think that's dickriding :/ anyone with half a brain can tell he's stomping those two dudes who think Kirin is stronger than Hirudora
 
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