Haku vs Hidan

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Hidan takes this pretty easily. He'll outlast him rather easily as a senbon can't decapitate.
 
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Icelerate said:
Hidan takes this pretty easily. He'll outlast him rather easily as a senbon can't decapitate.
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I'm not saying Haku can win, his speed is drastically inferior. But senbon needles to pressure points should have a similar effect to what Haku pulled off on Zabuza. Unconsciousness.
 
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TheAncientCenturion said:
I'm not saying Haku can win, his speed is drastically inferior. But senbon needles to pressure points should have a similar effect to what Haku pulled off on Zabuza. Unconsciousness.
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I doubt it, Hidan's pain resilience is far superior to Zabuza's and he has accelerated recovery as he doesn't bleed much even when he should bleed profusely.

I highly doubt Haku's speed is inferior but his senbons and striking speed is mediocre.
 
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TheAncientCenturion said:
I'm not saying Haku can win, his speed is drastically inferior. But senbon needles to pressure points should have a similar effect to what Haku pulled off on Zabuza. Unconsciousness.
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Not really, not too familiar with pressure points but he straight took out one of his ligaments in his leg and was still moving fine. I don't see pressure points doing much.
 
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Icelerate said:
I doubt it, Hidan's pain resilience is far superior to Zabuza's and he has accelerated recovery as he doesn't bleed much even when he should bleed profusely.

I highly doubt Haku's speed is inferior but his senbons and striking speed is mediocre.
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Outside of his mirrors, Haku was being matched by Sasuke. And, Zabuza's pain resistance isn't so much lower. If you'd recall the ordeal he went through to kill Gato [
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Even then, one could make a statement that Zabuza was more frustrated by Kakashi crippling him for the moment, as seeing the vein pop in Zabuza's head in the bottom panel [
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TheAncientCenturion said:
Outside of his mirrors, Haku was being matched by Sasuke. And, Zabuza's pain resistance isn't so much lower. If you'd recall the ordeal he went through to kill Gato [
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Even then, one could make a statement that Zabuza was more frustrated by Kakashi crippling him for the moment, as seeing the vein pop in Zabuza's head in the bottom panel [
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Lmfao are you serious? "Gap is low"

No, Hidan has the highest pain tolerance in the manga, because he literally can take anything....no pain will ever stop him from advancing his attack or continuing what he was doing. This is due to the fact that he literally enjoys the pain of others seeping through his body, so he deals with any and all pain caused within his as well.

Show me Zabuza merely shrugging off a sword through two VITAL spots and not barely in his back.... honestly how could you say the gap is low. Need I even bring up every wound he went through during that three day span Lol.
 
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Lmfao are you serious? "Gap is low"

No, Hidan has the highest pain tolerance in the manga, because he literally can take anything....no pain will ever stop him from advancing his attack or continuing what he was doing. This is due to the fact that he literally enjoys the pain of others seeping through his body, so he deals with any and all pain caused within his as well.

Show me Zabuza merely shrugging off a sword through two VITAL spots and not barely in his back.... honestly how could you say the gap is low. Need I even bring up every wound he went through during that three day span Lol.
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He feels pain all the time, Zex. Quite literally, but he has a few things going for him that allows this to not impact him as much. The first being he's a masachist. He's admitted it twice [
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He "shrugs" off the vital organ hits because he's immortal, because it won't kill him, because he's a masachist. He admits to the pain twice, once briefly and almost sarcastically [
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TheAncientCenturion said:
He feels pain all the time, Zex. Quite literally, but he has a few things going for him that allows this to not impact him as much. The first being he's a masachist. He's admitted it twice [
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He "shrugs" off the vital organ hits because he's immortal, because it won't kill him, because he's a masachist. He admits to the pain twice, once briefly and almost sarcastically [
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Yes he feels it but that doesn't hinder any physical actions? The fact that he is able to remain composed after all of those is attributed to that as well, imagine getting your head sliced off? Now imagine feeling that pain constantly, thats what Hidan felt when his head was sliced off.
 
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Yes he feels it but that doesn't hinder any physical actions? The fact that he is able to remain composed after all of those is attributed to that as well, imagine getting your head sliced off? Now imagine feeling that pain constantly, thats what Hidan felt when his head was sliced off.
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And he was literally yelling about it, and he wasn't even feeling ALL of the pain. THat's not composed. His organs being hit, when he pulled the blades out that wasn't composed. Zabuza was making little to no reaction to being impaled, to having Kakashi's kunai stick clear through his arm, similar enough to Hidan's own leg injury. Hidan has the higher resistance, no lying there. But it's not THAT much greater than Zabuza's.
 
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And he was literally yelling about it, and he wasn't even feeling ALL of the pain. THat's not composed. His organs being hit, when he pulled the blades out that wasn't composed. Zabuza was making little to no reaction to being impaled, to having Kakashi's kunai stick clear through his arm, similar enough to Hidan's own leg injury. Hidan has the higher resistance, no lying there. But it's not THAT much greater than Zabuza's.
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Okay he can yell all he wants? Lol if he continues doing and functioning its still resitance physically which he will always do .-. Btw anynormal person would bite their tongue off when dealing with that kind of pain.

If he was really the same pain resistance wise he would have still been able to use his blade after the dog attack, like Hidan would be able to do Lol.

Physical Pain resistance Hidan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Literally everyone in the NV except Tsunade and Sakura
 
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Okay he can yell all he wants? Lol if he continues doing and functioning its still resitance physically which he will always do .-. Btw anynormal person would bite their tongue off when dealing with that kind of pain.

If he was really the same pain resistance wise he would have still been able to use his blade after the dog attack, like Hidan would be able to do Lol.

Physical Pain resistance Hidan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Literally everyone in the NV except Tsunade and Sakura
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Hidan can act like that, but that's far from nonchalant or casual. It shows he can still feel pain but operate around it. Like Zabuza has under similar conditions, yet Haku could still knock him out with a well placed Senbon.

Using low end pain tolerance feats, my man lml. The dogs likely either over powered him or managed to restrain him somehow, because he's fought against Kakashi after those injuries and with worse ones. Hell, in a life or death situation, he's shown to flat out ignore the weapons being dug into him and continue moving for Gato.

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Hidan can act like that, but that's far from nonchalant or casual. It shows he can still feel pain but operate around it. Like Zabuza has under similar conditions, yet Haku could still knock him out with a well placed Senbon.

Using low end pain tolerance feats, my man lml. The dogs likely either over powered him or managed to restrain him somehow, because he's fought against Kakashi after those injuries and with worse ones. Hell, in a life or death situation, he's shown to flat out ignore the weapons being dug into him and continue moving for Gato.

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Bruh....Lol obviously he feels pain but his body doesn't stop functioning because of it, that part of his brain died out long ago after probably his 6th heart stab Lol, he literally tanks any physical wound and continues any attack. (well assuming it doesn't have force behind it to halt him of course)

Kisame's healing has shown that it requires him to stop what he's doing Lol, Hidan would have gotten right back up after that blow from Bee.

Yes i'm saying it, he would have gotten up from the weakened hirudora as well
 
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Bruh....Lol obviously he feels pain but his body doesn't stop functioning because of it, that part of his brain died out long ago after probably his 6th heart stab Lol, he literally tanks any physical wound and continues any attack. (well assuming it doesn't have force behind it to halt him of course)

Kisame's healing has shown that it requires him to stop what he's doing Lol, Hidan would have gotten right back up after that blow from Bee.

Yes i'm saying it, he would have gotten up from the weakened hirudora as well
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Hidan reacts to pain, Kisame didn't react to his chest being blown out. Or biting his tongue off. He laughed in defiance.

That's all that is needed. He feels pain, he reacts negatively to pain at times. Literally he and Zabuza are on the same tier of tolerance, with Hidan being on the high end of it. I've given you the comparisons already. If Zabuza, who has similar feats to Hidan, reacts to the senbon that way. Hidan should, too.

Hidan would get up due to being immortal. Not tolerance. That's the key.
 
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