Naruto + Sasuke V.S Kages

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His mirage and genjutsu are the same thing. When he sees through the mirage he sees through his genjutsu.


Your still not getting it. Sharingan does not nullify genjutsu it only gives you awareness that you are in it. Seeing through genjutsu is just an expression we/manga use that they are aware. The user (Sasuke or any Sharingan user) STILL has to break the genjutsu like everyone else.
 

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Your still not getting it. Sharingan does not nullify genjutsu it only gives you awareness that you are in it. Seeing through genjutsu is just an expression we/manga use that they are aware. The user (Sasuke or any Sharingan user) STILL has to break the genjutsu like everyone else.

It'll be just like Sasuke seeing through Itachi's genjutsu. You may be right, but Sasuke'll easily counter the genjutsu.
 

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It'll be just like Sasuke seeing through Itachi's genjutsu. You may be right, but Sasuke'll easily counter the genjutsu.

About about Itachi's fight? Sasuke broke Itachi's genjutsu. Sasuke isn't countering Mizukage genjutsu unless he finds the Clam, so its absolutely not easy at all.
 

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About about Itachi's fight? Sasuke broke Itachi's genjutsu. Sasuke isn't countering Mizukage genjutsu unless he finds the Clam, so its absolutely not easy at all.

What's the point of it when Sasuke has sharingan activated and sees through it from the get go? There is also the possibility of Sasuke using Amaterau on him from the start, given his intel in this match
 

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What's the point of it when Sasuke has sharingan activated and sees through it from the get go?

Are you really going to have me repeat myself for the 4th time? At this point you still dont get it??????????????

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HE SEES TRHOUGH IT. SEEING THROUGH IT DOES NOT MEAN LITERALLY SEE PAST IT. IT MEAN HE IS SELF AWARE THAT HE IS IN GENJUTSU.

There is also the possibility of Sasuke using Amaterau on him from the start, given his intel in this match

Lol what intel. Please tell me the basic intel Naruto and Sasuke have on Gengetsu(Mizukage)
 

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Are you really going to have me repeat myself for the 4th time? At this point you still dont get it??????????????

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HE SEES TRHOUGH IT. SEEING THROUGH IT DOES NOT MEAN LITERALLY SEE PAST IT. IT MEAN HE IS SELF AWARE THAT HE IS IN GENJUTSU.
I don't know why it's that hard to understand that with sharingan Sasuke will see the position of Mizukage's clam, the thing that makes the genjutsu. It's a , stated by Mizukage
You really have no legit argument on why Sasuke won't be seeing through this mirage.


Lol what intel. Please tell me the basic intel Naruto and Sasuke have on Gengetsu(Mizukage)
OP said they have basic intel on each other's abilities.
 

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I don't know why it's that hard to understand that with sharingan Sasuke will see the position of Mizukage's clam, the thing that makes the genjutsu. It's a , stated by Mizukage
You really have no legit argument on why Sasuke won't be seeing through this mirage.

Aw man, you are that clueless. There's no help I can provide? I can only show you an example at this point:

[ ]. Which we know, that Sasuke saw right through the genjutsu[ ]. If Sasuke really saw right pass through the genjutsu, he would have saw Darui and Ay encountering him in the midst of getting hit by Cee's genjutsu, FACT. But Ay stated himself, he was will be too late to react to his attack, since he had to deal/break Cee's genjutsu FIRST, FACT!

So no, stop with this claim that he will see Mizukage position/Clam just because the Sharingan gives SELF AWARE that they are in a genjutsu.



OP said they have basic intel on each other's abilities.

Repeating what I just said? Proves nothing that your suggesting. So please tell me the basic intel they have. We know

Muu and Raikage encounter Naruto, so Naruto has basic intel and vise-versa.

We know Sasuke fought someone similar to Ay, so he has basic intel on Raikage's abilities.

This is the only basic intel we know they have from each other.

I know, you making up basic intel.
 

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Aw man, you are that clueless. There's no help I can provide? I can only show you an example at this point:

[ ]. Which we know, that Sasuke saw right through the genjutsu[ ]. If Sasuke really saw right pass through the genjutsu, he would have saw Darui and Ay encountering him in the midst of getting hit by Cee's genjutsu, FACT. But Ay stated himself, he was will be too late to react to his attack, since he had to deal/break Cee's genjutsu FIRST, FACT!

So no, stop with this claim that he will see Mizukage position/Clam just because the Sharingan gives SELF AWARE that they are in a genjutsu.
Even if you're right breaking the genjutsu wouldn't be a trouble for Sasuke. Then Amaterasu comes into play.

Repeating what I just said? Proves nothing that your suggesting. So please tell me the basic intel they have. We know

Muu and Raikage encounter Naruto, so Naruto has basic intel and vise-versa.

We know Sasuke fought someone similar to Ay, so he has basic intel on Raikage's abilities.

This is the only basic intel we know they have from each other.

I know, you making up basic intel.
Dude op said basic Intel on each other's abilities. So even before the fight they know a little about the abilities of the other team.
 

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Even if you're right breaking the genjutsu wouldn't be a trouble for Sasuke. Then Amaterasu comes into play.

Breaking the genjutsu is trouble because he will be put back in as long as the mist is there, effecting his brain. So its useless. Manga states if you want to break the genjutsu, break the Clam. Any other suggestions is outright denying manga, and not even going to bother wasting time to someone denying manga.


Dude op said basic Intel on each other's abilities. So even before the fight they know a little about the abilities of the other team.

So? Basic intel means they have basic intel on Mizukage. Does basic intel states that they know about Mizukage's summoning? Nope. Does basic intel know they Mizukage is a Hozuki? Nope. Does basic intel know that Mizukage is a Yin user? Nope.

Basic intel either goes by Manga intel or common sense. Just by appearance, they could tell his from Water Village, so they can expect at least Miukage being Suiton user. Thats it, period.
 

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Breaking the genjutsu is trouble because he will be put back in as long as the mist is there, effecting his brain. So its useless. Manga states if you want to break the genjutsu, break the Clam. Any other suggestions is outright denying manga, and not even going to bother wasting time to someone denying manga.
One thing though. I think you forgot about how Ohnoki and Gaara found the clam. They used sand and got him. Confirming that it was just a mirage.


So? Basic intel means they have basic intel on Mizukage. Does basic intel states that they know about Mizukage's summoning? Nope. Does basic intel know they Mizukage is a Hozuki? Nope. Does basic intel know that Mizukage is a Yin user? Nope.

Basic intel either goes by Manga intel or common sense. Just by appearance, they could tell his from Water Village, so they can expect at least Miukage being Suiton user. Thats it, period.

Basic Intel on ****ing abilities. The clam's mirage is basic Intel. Jokey boy isn't. That's fact
 

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One thing though. I think you forgot about how Ohnoki and Gaara found the clam. They used sand and got him. Confirming that it was just a mirage.

Lol ok? I didn't forget anything. All of what your saying is irrelevant for this match up.


Basic Intel on ****ing abilities. The clam's mirage is basic Intel. Jokey boy isn't. That's fact

Lol since you claim its a fact that Mirage is basic intel, then Im sure you can prove it. Will wait for proof.
 

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Lol ok? I didn't forget anything. All of what your saying is irrelevant for this match up.
Lol yeah? ?
Finding the clam with sand further proves it that the clam just creates a mirage.


Lol since you claim its a fact that Mirage is basic intel, then Im sure you can prove it. Will wait for proof.
Basic intel about abilities is what they can do on basics. The clam is basic, Jokey boy isn't.
 

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Lol yeah? ?
Finding the clam with sand further proves it that the clam just creates a mirage.



Basic intel about abilities is what they can do on basics. The clam is basic, Jokey boy isn't.




Basic intel on abilities usually (At least in my definition) applies what they use standardly in their moveset. Amatarsu would apply to basic intel.
 

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Basic intel on abilities usually (At least in my definition) applies what they use standardly in their moveset. Amatarsu would apply to basic intel.

You gave up on that baseless genjutsu argument?
 

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You gave up on that baseless genjutsu argument?

Baseless?? Lol.

No, Im just done arguing with you in circles. You really proved that you are clueless and dont get manga at all. Luckily I dont have read your next response.
 
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