Nondebunkable facts surrounding Sakura.

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See the problem is that you take it too far

"No one in her generation is competing with these feats.

Sakura excels intellectually"

Can be replaced by

"Sakura excels intellectually"

I am sure you would find many people accepting that. You made a similar mistake a few days ago when you said her Chakra Control > Naruto and Sasuke.

You take it too far
But it can be supported by the manga that Sakura can control the chakra she was born with better than Sasuke and Naruto controlling their base chakra.
 

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Do you really think that's Sakura fault???? Kishi obviously forgot about that when doing this scene, it's not the first time that happens.
Thats not my headache, she did not recognize means she did not! Go cry over somewhere else!

So sad the salt is here...

Sakura noticed things even more quintessential things....

Yamato's use of Mokuton (secrete jutsu).

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Hashi's DNA.

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The account of Zetsu transformation tech via file.

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Fail!!!!!!!!!!
so you r saying knowing mokuton is more important then knowing who your predecessors are?? Geez!

Its like i know the color of the gold but i don't know who is my countries former president / prime minister is! XD And minato was said to save the village when kurama's attacked. How retarded can you be??
 
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But it can be supported by the manga that Sakura can control the chakra she was born with better than Sasuke and Naruto controlling their base chakra.
Like I said you ate taking it too far. Base means nothing if they have superior feats at non base. Imagine the chakra moulding required to match everyone's chakra or moulding 9 TBs chakra and using it to juice your Susanoo.

Its like people are managing trillions better and you are comparing the time when they were kids and who managed their pocket allowance better. Base is a shitty arguement. They evolved they got better.

We all have some flaws bruh. Everything in moderation
 

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Thats not my headache, she did not recognize means she did not! Go cry over somewhere else!



so you r saying knowing mokuton is more important then knowing who your predecessors are?? Geez!

Its like i know the color of the gold but i don't know who is my countries former president / prime minister is! XD And minato was said to save the village when kurama's attacked. How retarded can you be??
Yes, in NV knowing a solidified legendary technique and it's original producer is more important than knowing who Minato was.

That like walking up to a complete Stanger in America and asking them who the 8th president, they may not know who he is but I'm pretty sure they can tell you who the first one was.

You got you post soloed and you cant handle it.
 

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Like I said you ate taking it too far. Base means nothing if they have superior feats at non base. Imagine the chakra moulding required to match everyone's chakra or moulding 9 TBs chakra and using it to juice your Susanoo.

Its like people are managing trillions better and you are comparing the time when they were kids and who managed their pocket allowance better. Base is a shitty arguement. They evolved they got better.

We all have some flaws bruh. Everything in moderation
Again I haven't denounced Naruto's or Sasukes feats, I've just stated an accurate observation regarding them controlling their natural reserves which you don't seem to like. Sakura has done amazing things with HER OWN CHAKRA.
 

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Thats not my headache, she did not recognize means she did not!
Did this rustle your jimmies???? You sound mad. :bdpf:

Go cry over somewhere else!
Why somewhere else???? Can't I cry here???? Like every Sakura hater is doing it here so should I too. As Sakura fan that's unfair!!! *pouting* Let's make the biggest ocean in the earth!!! Thought that you guys alone are enough. :hmm:
 
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Again I haven't denounced Naruto's or Sasukes feats, I've just stated an accurate observation regarding them controlling their natural reserves which you don't seem to like. Sakura has done amazing things with HER OWN CHAKRA.
See you still don't see it. Would they be no 1 at moulding someone else's chakra and not their own. Everyone knows Sakura was better that them at the start. But they got better and surpassed her. They handled chakra better period. That should be enough to justify that they can handle their chair a better. Base is not a good way to argue thus. I hope you understand bro.
 

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Sakura's biggest failure comes in the form of her undying love for some freak who beat her and nearly killed her on a couple different occasions. It's the same issue with Naruto, as well.

Not only that, Kishi got extremely lazy with her and simply turned her in to a Tsunade clone, rather than fulfilling her noted potential in genjutsu and actually giving her interesting abilities. But then again he just copied and pasted every ability for Sasuke, too, so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised there.
 

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LOL ofcourse the same idiots are going to dislike this thread which was pure facts.It's like they want to hate on Sakura.They don't want to see any good in her. Facts are Facts though.
Her intelligence or punching power doesn't make her character any more or less likable. She's a idiotic character for the same reason Naruto is.
 

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Sakura's biggest failure comes in the form of her undying love for some freak who beat her and nearly killed her on a couple different occasions. It's the same issue with Naruto, as well.

Not only that, Kishi got extremely lazy with her and simply turned her in to a Tsunade clone, rather than fulfilling her noted potential in genjutsu and actually giving her interesting abilities. But then again he just copied and pasted every ability for Sasuke, too, so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised there.
So basically you want to ignore/reject all her positives,and highlight her percieved negative ones which is why you decided to diverge off topic and mention them?

Naruto,and Sasuke have a bond that most people don't understand cause they didn't experience what they did - growing up alone,years of loneliness.Naruto was able to further understand Sasuke when Jiraiya was murdered.He too knew what it was like to have someone close to him being killed,and feel hatred toward the person who did it and want revenge.

Naruto,and Sakura got to know the good Sasuke from their team 7 days where they became friends,comrades,and teamates.Once Sasuke put revenge above everything he went to the bad side,and they tried to help him.

They never gave up no matter what,that is admirable.The perseverance they had,determination,and will power.A weak minded person would give up when facing such difficulties,they didn't,they perservered and saved him.

By the way Sasuke only attacked Sakura because she attacked him first,and that's in the past.He's already changed for the better.They succeeding in bringing back the good Sasuke that they know.

About Sasuke's powers.Lol copied and paste,are you really saying that as if it's a fault? Ofcourse a Rinnegan user is going to have Rinnegan powers when they awaken the Rinnegan.

And Sasuke's isn't the same as a normal one,it's appearance is clearly it's own + it has all the powers of the basic Sharingan,Sasuke's MS,and the Rinnegan

I don't see anyone else with Sasuke's type of teleportation,or multiple different Kagatsuchi techniques.
Her intelligence or punching power doesn't make her character any more or less likable. She's a idiotic character for the same reason Naruto is.
Really,so Sakura being in intelligent Shinobi,who's able to figure things out at important times which really helps everyone out doesn't make her more likable? So displaying intelligence,and doing important stuff multiple times is the same as doing nothing at all?

Logic.

Alright if she didn't do anything then i'm sure you would be using that against her,but you see she has done good things so you act like it doesn't matter.
 
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Another important thing is that Tsunade was able to make an artificial arm for Naruto,and Sasuke because of the data Sakura uncovered about White Zetsu being made from Hashirama's cells in the War.

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Naruto,and Sasuke have an arm because of Sakura.
 

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So basically you want to ignore/reject all her positives,and highlight her percieved negative ones which is why you decided to diverge off topic and mention them?

Naruto,and Sasuke have a bond that most people don't understand cause they didn't experience what they did - growing up alone,years of loneliness.Naruto was able to further understand Sasuke when Jiraiya was murdered.He too knew what it was like to have someone close to him being killed,and feel hatred toward the person who did it and want revenge.

Naruto,and Sakura got to know the good Sasuke from their team 7 days where they became friends,comrades,and teamates.Once Sasuke put revenge above everything he went to the bad side,and they tried to help him.

They never gave up no matter what,that is admirable.The perseverance they had,determination,and will power.A weak minded person would give up when facing such difficulties,they didn't,they perservered and saved him.

By the way Sasuke only attacked Sakura because she attacked him first,and that's in the past.He's already changed for the better.They succeeding in bringing back the good Sasuke that they know.

About Sasuke's powers.Lol copied and paste,are you really saying that as if it's a fault? Ofcourse a Rinnegan user is going to have Rinnegan powers when they awaken the Rinnegan.

And Sasuke's isn't the same as a normal one,it's appearance is clearly it's own + it has all the powers of the basic Sharingan,Sasuke's MS,and the Rinnegan

I don't see anyone else with Sasuke's type of teleportation,or multiple different Kagatsuchi techniques.


Really,so Sakura being in intelligent Shinobi,who's able to figure things out at important times which really helps everyone out doesn't make her more likable? So displaying intelligence,and doing important stuff multiple times is the same as doing nothing at all?

Logic.

Alright if she didn't do anything then i'm sure you would be using that against her,but you see she has done good things so you act like it doesn't matter.
I've never said she didn't do anything, and I've never(and you can go through my posts on this forum, and I guarantee you you'll never find a post where I discredit what she's done in terms of feat) discredited her feats. Same as I've never discredited Naruto's. Or Sasuke's. Or Obito's. Or -insertothershittycharacterhere-'s.

The OP here acts as if everyone hates Sakura because "she didn't do anything". Anyone who's read the manga knows she's done things. I enjoyed the Chiyo/Sakura vs Sasori fight. The point in my post is to point out why a lot of us dislike her.

Understanding what Sasuke was trying to do to Itachi is fine. It's being fine with everything he did after(Trying to kill/capture Bee, trying to kill the kages, etc) that is the issue. Kakashi had a prime chance to end Sasuke's life(and it needed to be ended with the path he was going down) and was interrupted by both Naruto and Sakura.

Jiraiya and Kakashi are two characters who show how to properly deal with that situation. You make an effort to resolve things peacefully, but if they don't, you know you have to put an end to it one way or another. There's nothing admirable about supporting someone who is trying to kill everyone, whether they had anything to do with the Uchiha Massacre or not, and ultimately destroy Konoha when there was only 1 to 3 living people in that village who had any idea of what happened that night(Danzo and potentially the advisers).

And lol @ Sasuke only attacked her because she attacked first. Sasuke showed he didn't give a **** at that point who he killed, and was willing to kill Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi(and both Naruto and Kakashi tried once again to be sensible).

Yes, Sasuke's rinnegan has some unique abilities which is fine, but up until he received that, he was a copy and paste of Kakashi(for raiton) and Itachi(sharingan abilities) for the most part. Which I just blame on Kishi's piss poor writing and inability to make unique characters.
 

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Don't be foolish and embarrass Hinata, Post-mortem examination is an examination of a human body after death. Also called a necropsy. An autopsy can include a physical examination, examination of internal organs, and specialized laboratory studies. Autopsies may be used to help determine the cause and manner of death.
Nope, Hinata can see organs, muscles and the human skeleton in addition to the chakra pathways. Her eyes can be used as an extremely convenient medical tool like when she fixed Naruto's dislocated shoulder.

Hinata has no knowledge of laboratory studies nor has shown any medical intellect that suggest she could conduct an autopsy (which is reliant on medical studies).

Intellectual and Medically, Hinata doesn't compare.
Sure she should need to study some medical jutsu but her eyes can examine more than what Sakura can dream of.

Wah, how does Kurama remove the toxins that integrated themselves into Kankuro cellular structure?

Why didn't Kurama remove poison here?

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I hope you realize Naruto had no form of of control over Kurama at the time. And Kurama wouldn't need to help him because Sakura was there.

And if he wouldn't help Naruto against Obito what makes you think he would save him from Sakura ? Lol

Furthermore Kurama's chakra is made of Hagormo's. Anything related to Rikudou is considered supernatural to the shinobi world.

Combined with Ashura's chakra Kurama's healing surpasses any form of medical jutsu Sakura can use.

At this point your either a joke who cannot read, is severely impaired or a basher.

Pick one but before you do reread below.

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While Hinata..

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Then Naruto..

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Now unlike Naruto and Hinata, Kakashi did contribute by announcing the obvious but it was Sakura who articulated his ability.

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1. Sakura didn't decipher Obito's jutsu because Naruto, Kakashi and Gai didn't know how to land a single hit on Obito.

2. Being able to know it's not teleportation is easy af, proven with how Sasuke didn't even bother trying to decipher Kamui when he met Deidara.

2. Hinata can analyze just as well, she was the only one able to see the Juubi's chakra being absorbed.
 

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I've never said she didn't do anything, and I've never(and you can go through my posts on this forum, and I guarantee you you'll never find a post where I discredit what she's done in terms of feat) discredited her feats. Same as I've never discredited Naruto's. Or Sasuke's. Or Obito's. Or -insertothershittycharacterhere-'s.

The OP here acts as if everyone hates Sakura because "she didn't do anything". Anyone who's read the manga knows she's done things. I enjoyed the Chiyo/Sakura vs Sasori fight. The point in my post is to point out why a lot of us dislike her.

Understanding what Sasuke was trying to do to Itachi is fine. It's being fine with everything he did after(Trying to kill/capture Bee, trying to kill the kages, etc) that is the issue. Kakashi had a prime chance to end Sasuke's life(and it needed to be ended with the path he was going down) and was interrupted by both Naruto and Sakura.

Jiraiya and Kakashi are two characters who show how to properly deal with that situation. You make an effort to resolve things peacefully, but if they don't, you know you have to put an end to it one way or another. There's nothing admirable about supporting someone who is trying to kill everyone, whether they had anything to do with the Uchiha Massacre or not, and ultimately destroy Konoha when there was only 1 to 3 living people in that village who had any idea of what happened that night(Danzo and potentially the advisers).

And lol @ Sasuke only attacked her because she attacked first. Sasuke showed he didn't give a **** at that point who he killed, and was willing to kill Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi(and both Naruto and Kakashi tried once again to be sensible).

Yes, Sasuke's rinnegan has some unique abilities which is fine, but up until he received that, he was a copy and paste of Kakashi(for raiton) and Itachi(sharingan abilities) for the most part. Which I just blame on Kishi's piss poor writing and inability to make unique characters.
Usually people call her fodder as if she hasn't done important things,as if they're either unaware of what she's done or are purposefully ignoring it.Why dislike a thread just mentioning facts? Whether you like a character or not,facts are fact.

Naruto,and Sakura were not fine with what Sasuke did,was doing,and planned on doing,hence them always speaking out against him,hence Naruto letting him know that if he tries attacking Konoha,that he will fight him.Naruto straight out told Sasuke he was against him,and would stop him if he needs to.How is that being okay with everything Sasuke did?

And Sakura was on Naruto's side.She never said,"No Naruto,Sasuke is right!",instead she spoke out against Sasuke multiple times. It's just that they both wanted to save Sasuke,so they didn't give up hope,and just try to kill him.

Naruto said it himself,"How can i be Hokage if i can't even save a friend?" How is he suppoused to lead,guide,help,and protect a whole Nation,if he can't even save one of his friends? Even bigger,how can he bring peace to the world,if he can't save one friend? Someone he actually personally knows?

Sasuke was wrapped in darkness,part of the cycle of revenge,and hatred that the world was consumed in for so long.If he can't help Sasuke,a single person then how could he help bring peace to the whole world?

Perhaps he should have given up on Sasuke because he was too much of a problem? LOL Well there's a Whole World out there with many people who was like Sasuke due to the Shinobi World....

Giving up on Sasuke would be like giving on on the world.Hows he suppoused to take on bigger challenges if he gives up on something lesser?


You were partially right when you said Sasuke didn't care at that point who he killed (Beginning of part 2),he only let Team 7 go cause Orochimaru convinced him,but then again,as i said,Team 7 were the ones who showed up infront of him claiming they would capture him,and bring him back to Konoha.Then at the Summit,Sakura planned on killing him,which Sasuke saw through,and attacked her for.It's not like he ever went out of his way to find,and kill them.


The only Lightning technique Sasuke learned from Kakashi was the Chidori.Sasuke created multiple of his own variants which Kakashi never was shown to use,so we don't even know if he was capable of doing them.

Sasuke having the same MS abilities as Itachi was explained,they're siblings,and before Sasuke started using his MS,Itachi was only shown using his alittle in ONE battle.

Masashi did seperate their abilities such as having Itachi be highly skilled in Genjutsu (Tsukuyomi),and Sasuke with Amaterasu / Kagutsuchi. Infact they even use each of these powers in opposite eyes.

Sasuke's Amaterasu is in his Left eye,while Itachi's is left.Sasuke's Kagutsuchi is in his Right eye while Itachi's is Left.
 
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Nope, Hinata can see organs, muscles and the human skeleton in addition to the chakra pathways. Her eyes can be used as an extremely convenient medical tool like when she fixed Naruto's dislocated shoulder.



Sure she should need to study some medical jutsu but her eyes can examine more than what Sakura can dream of.



I hope you realize Naruto had no form of of control over Kurama at the time. And Kurama wouldn't need to help him because Sakura was there.

And if he wouldn't help Naruto against Obito what makes you think he would save him from Sakura ? Lol

Furthermore Kurama's chakra is made of Hagormo's. Anything related to Rikudou is considered supernatural to the shinobi world.

Combined with Ashura's chakra Kurama's healing surpasses any form of medical jutsu Sakura can use.



1. Sakura didn't decipher Obito's jutsu because Naruto, Kakashi and Gai didn't know how to land a single hit on Obito.

2. Being able to know it's not teleportation is easy af, proven with how Sasuke didn't even bother trying to decipher Kamui when he met Deidara.

2. Hinata can analyze just as well, she was the only one able to see the Juubi's chakra being absorbed.
Reread Kakashi,Gai,Naruto,and Co's battle against Tobi in the war.When Kakashi figured out how Kamui works he basically repeated what Sakura said.So yes Sakura figured it out first,although it wasn't confirmed so Kakashi didn't take it as complete facts.

Also the reason why Sasuke didn't attempt figuring it out is because he didn't have time.He was actually cut off by Tobi,and Deidara while he was thinking about it,and they continued the battle.

It it was so easy to figure out,then surely Danzo's Elite members of Root would have figured it our,rather than spend a whole chapter analyzing it in battle,which eventually cost them their lives because they failed to figure it out.

Even Konan who had known Tobi for years,and spent years in advance planning on killing him in battle didn't fully know how it worked.

Don't take away from what's clearly an amazing intelligence feat from Sakura.
 
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