Actually he specialise in space time ninjutsu and speed, more than anything else. And even hashirama and hiruzen despite not being close combat specialist, still getted destroyed by juubi jin.
Which why he can combat Raikage who is a proper close combat fighter. Make minato and raikage fight stricly taijutsu (no ninjutsu for minato), it obvious who will win.
I read what you said, i just making point. Plus were edos not weaker than they were alive, and less careful due to immortal bodies? When madara come back to life, he completely different level to what he was before.
Actually he specialise in space time ninjutsu and speed, more than anything else. And even hashirama and hiruzen despite not being close combat specialist, still getted destroyed by juubi jin
Close combat. He needs to get close to actually kill his opponent. Not seeing how Hashirama and Hiruzen not being close combat specialists and them being inferior to Juubi Jins is relevant.
I read what you said, i just making point. Plus were edos not weaker than they were alive, and less careful due to immortal bodies? When madara come back to life, he completely different level to what he was before.
Less careful? Sure. But Minato made an attempt to escape, so he was being careful there. Weaker? Sure, but the only reason Alive Rinnegan Madara>>Edo Rinnegan Madara is because Real Rinnegan>>>>Fake Rinnegan.
Considering the fact you showcased that you don't know the difference between explosive taijutsu (gai).. vs pure speed (minato).. I don't know why you are laughing like an idiot
Base Minato takes this...! even considering the move that 7th gate guy attacked madara with, minato uses clones so guy attacking minato recklessly like he did with madara would result in guy getting marked and everyone knows what happens next...! #peace
One question...didn't 7th Gate Gai push JJ Madara back by Taijutsu prowess not speed? Considering he doesn't have any outstanding speed feat in 7th Gate...
^^ His speed was fast enough to surprise Madara to begin with...Look at the scan Kidgamer showed, you'd see Gai made 2 movements in between the 2 hits he delivered. Plus Gaara said his "Movements" aren't human...If it was a case of Taijutsu alone, it would have been made clear that it was just that. However, we can see it was a combination of both speed and Taijutsu which is why his physical movement from opening the gate to Madara left the Jin surprised before Gai actually appeared in fron of him.
Yup he caught a distracted madara by surprise. And then madara dodges it. And then gais taijutsu skills come into play allowing him to keep the distance short.
And the. You have minato ftgs in and out right in front of 8th gate gais attack.
^^ His speed was fast enough to surprise Madara to begin with...Look at the scan Kidgamer showed, you'd see Gai made 2 movements in between the 2 hits he delivered. Plus Gaara said his "Movements" aren't human...If it was a case of Taijutsu alone, it would have been made clear that it was just that. However, we can see it was a combination of both speed and Taijutsu which is why his physical movement from opening the gate to Madara left the Jin surprised before Gai actually appeared in fron of him.
that would mean that Madara's back hopping is on some godly speed :| Really? He was back peddling/hopping backwards, while blocking Gais attacks. If Gai was moving at such speeds like you claim, then that would mean Madara also was. Which is quite ridiculous to be honest. If that's the case, then gaara would have said both their movements are inhuman, since madara was moving at the exact pace as he was back hopping. It's obvious gaara was referring to his taijutsu and the way he attacked.
Gai should still win. KCM doesn't grant enough of an increase in reaction speed to beat Gai. Not when SM Minato failed against Madara and as Naruto stated SM grants a higher level of perception than KCM. KCM Minato failed against a weaker opponent than Madara anyway.
that would mean that Madara's back hopping is on some godly speed :| Really? He was back peddling/hopping backwards, while blocking Gais attacks. If Gai was moving at such speeds like you claim, then that would mean Madara also was. Which is quite ridiculous to be honest. If that's the case, then gaara would have said both their movements are inhuman, since madara was moving at the exact pace as he was back hopping. It's obvious gaara was referring to his taijutsu and the way he attacked.
How is it ridiculous for a Jin? It's not...Gaara saying Gai's movement wasn't human was based on what he saw. Which was Gai keeping up with someone of that level. Using it's obviously his Taijutsu isn't a point when his Taijutsu wasn't singlehandedly pointed out.
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That's Lee moving towards Gaara and not attacking...Yet his movements was said to be not human by a young Gaara. " I can't protect myself" was because Lee was too fast as Gai made reference to it and so did others in the arena.
We have the same case when Ay uses Shunsin:
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Kimmamoro did say Lee's movements were unpredictable which is completely different case from being inhumane cuz of the way one moves...I've clearly shown with that Gaara's example how Lee was not attacking but moving to Gaara prompting him to say the movements weren't human.
That being said, Kimmi said this as well to sum up the fact that it wasn't just Taijutsu that was the case in terms of him saying he couldn't read Lee's overall movement.
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However, when it comes to Gai's case it's different..You're telling me Gaara judged his movement wasn;t human from 2 hits that got blocked? Look at the arrows. Look in between the hits. That was speed which is clear.
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I've already proved to you that it's not just Taijutsu...It's his actual movements. It's not human and we've seen Gaara fighting alongside speedsters and yet was that surprised. Even when we saw Gai surprisesd Madara with waw foot speed before he appeared.
Though you people would still argue....There's nothing to debate regarding Gai's movements anymore.
1. Naruto's Shunshin doesn't, hasn't, and won't ever deflect a Bijuu Dama.
2. The answer is Gai. He is outright faster than Naruto is. Plain and simple.
