Poll: Poll: Who produced the stronger descendants?

[KingHashirama]

Basic comprehension, a field in which you're clearly severely lacking.

After he said that he said this:

Implying his lineage was changed, even partially like you're saying. But it wasn't, not even a little bit. Try again.

So you are saying if a person only has indra and then later on becomes Ashura also..... his lineage is still the same?

Lineage: a sequence of species each of which is considered to have evolved from its predecessor.


Madara's make up = Senju + Uchiha

Indra has no senju in him.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Basic comprehension, a field in which you're clearly severely lacking.

After he said that he said this:

Implying his lineage was changed, even partially like you're saying. But it wasn't, not even a little bit. Try again.

Realized your post backfired againist you so edited it, i guess you conveniently ignored the rest of the post where it states Senju+Uchiha. Again no one here stated that they stopped being Uchiha entirely. Learn to Read.

OT: Pure Asura/Senju powers>Pure Indra/Uchiha powers. Madara proves this when he got negged by Hashirama with EMS and a tailed Beast. Hagamoro himself knew Asura had more potential than Indra and thus choose accordingly.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

So you are saying if a person only has indra and then later on becomes Ashura also..... his lineage is still the same?

Lineage: a sequence of species each of which is considered to have evolved from its predecessor.


Madara's make up = Senju + Uchiha

Indra has no senju in him.

If an individual gets a blood transplant, a tissue or organ donor, does that suddenly change that person's ancestry and lineage to that of the other person's as well? No, it doesn't. That's what I'm trying to say, and mixing chakras definitely DOES NOT alter your ancestry or lineage in any way whatsoever.

 

[Nagi]

You actually can. However, Nagato didn't possess Ashura's chakra. Ashura's chakra could only be obtained from Hashirama or Naruto's dnas.. and Nagato had neither of theirs.

Nagato has a strong life-force. So he can withstand using both rinnegan. But he couldn't use it to its full potential due to the lack of spiritual energy that the Uchiha clan is known for.

Obitio could only handle one rinnegan because his spiritual energy is weak compare to Sasuke and Madara. Despite half of his body is made of Hashirama DNA, he still was weak.

In order to use the rinnegan, You have have a strong life-force(Yang user(Nagato, Naruto, Naruto's mother, 1st hokage) or freaking high quality spiritual energy or special chakra(Sasuke, Itachi and Madara).

But to use the rinnegan to its full potential, you need to have both. Obitio only had a lil bit of both. So he could only handle one rinnegan.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Realized your post backfired againist you so edited it, i guess you conveniently ignored the rest of the post where it states Senju+Uchiha. Again no one here stated that they stopped being Uchiha entirely. Learn to Read.

OT: Pure Asura/Senju powers>Pure Indra/Uchiha powers. Madara proves this when he got negged by Hashirama with EMS and a tailed Beast. Hagamoro himself knew Asura had more potential than Indra and thus choose accordingly.

Lol. You keep telling me to learn to read, yet ironically enough you continue on proving that you cannot do so yourself.

Implying his lineage was changed, even partially like you're saying.

^^^THAT is what I said. I acknowledged your statements of his ancestry/lineage being SLIGHTLY changed, and I told you, you're STILL wrong.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

I'm logging, so don't expect any replies. If you guys seriously don't understand how mixing chakra doesn't change your lineage, bloodline or ancestry, then you have some serious reading to do.

 

[Guitar Hero]

Oh lord. This is what you said.

The argument was that they were no longer Uchiha if they used Senju cells.

Now show me where anyone in this stated they were no longer Uchiha entirely or said they stopped being Uchiha completely. .

 

[Nagi]

Senji clan = strong life force or strong body or both. (Naruto, Naruto's mother, Nagato, 1st hokage)

Uchiha clan = high quality spiritual energy and special chakra. (Sasuke, Madara, Itachi)

Obitio was an average Uchiha who unlock MS and got 1st hokage's dna mix in him.

Nagato = strong life force, but weak body

Naruto's mother = strong life force and strong body

Naruto = strong life force and strong body

1st hokage = strong life force and GOD BODY

Itachi = mid quality spiritual energy and special chakra

Sasuke and Madara = high quality spiritual energy and god special chakra

obitio = mid quality spiritual energy and no special chakra

 

[Shruikan]

Good to see common sense still exists on this site somewhat

 

[Kingu]

Realized your post backfired againist you so edited it, i guess you conveniently ignored the rest of the post where it states Senju+Uchiha. Again no one here stated that they stopped being Uchiha entirely. Learn to Read.

OT: Pure Asura/Senju powers>Pure Indra/Uchiha powers. Madara proves this when he got negged by Hashirama with EMS and a tailed Beast. Hagamoro himself knew Asura had more potential than Indra and thus choose accordingly.

Mate we're talking about descendants, not descendant.
Why is it that there are only two of Ashura's descendants that are powerful, Hashimara and Tobirama, and for some reason it stopped there.
However for Indra it kept going on, producing more powerful Uchihas.

Tbh When those guys talk about Madara with rinnegan it's half and half. Madara who is a descendant of Indra gained power from Ashura's descendant, does mean he has Indra added with Ashura's dna, but doesn't mean he is now from both lineage.
Kinda ****ed up but you get it.

 

[Endles Waltz]

The genetically superior genius Indra.

 

[KingHashirama]

Nagato has a strong life-force. So he can withstand using both rinnegan. But he couldn't use it to its full potential due to the lack of spiritual energy that the Uchiha clan is known for.

Obitio could only handle one rinnegan because his spiritual energy is weak compare to Sasuke and Madara. Despite half of his body is made of Hashirama DNA, he still was weak.

In order to use the rinnegan, You have have a strong life-force(Yang user(Nagato, Naruto, Naruto's mother, 1st hokage) or freaking high quality spiritual energy or special chakra(Sasuke, Itachi and Madara).

But to use the rinnegan to its full potential, you need to have both. Obitio only had a lil bit of both. So he could only handle one rinnegan.

uutizlize its power you would need to have ashuras chakra. Madara had hashiramas dna implanted into him.

 

[Meceryok]

In the right sense both clan have very strong descendents. When Juubi is added to the mix I believe Indra has the upper hand though debatable since we haven't seen a senju in juubi mode.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Honestly the Indra bloodline are always born with exceeding potential, but the Ashura bloodline always catch up despite being weaker at first. That, and the usually surpass the Indra line too.

 

[LuckyMan]

Mate we're talking about descendants, not descendant.
Why is it that there are only two of Ashura's descendants that are powerful, Hashimara and Tobirama, and for some reason it stopped there.
However for Indra it kept going on, producing more powerful Uchihas.

But see, those two Ashura descendants shit over Indras entire lineage. I understand what you're getting at but Ashuras was more powerful, the number he produced is irrelevant. Even if Ashura only produced Hashirama and someone like the Uchiha produced 10 that were all Itachis level, Ashuras descendant(s) is still stronger and that one would still shit on 10 Itachis.

Also the Uchiha are only strong because of their eyes. Indras descendants are aren't some superior ass race that when it comes to all things shinobi related. Take away Sharingan from the Uchiha and they drop down to Jounin level.

 

[KingHashirama]

If an individual gets a blood transplant, a tissue or organ donor, does that suddenly change that person's ancestry and lineage to that of the other person's as well? No, it doesn't. That's what I'm trying to say, and mixing chakras definitely DOES NOT alter your ancestry or lineage in any way whatsoever.

He wont be a pure blood or pure of w.e he is.

Madara and obito had their entire genetics changed completely.. lol. Not get some donors.. juubis jinchurki is 50 percent uchiha amd other half senju. Obito was no longer how he was born.

Luffy got his blood from jinbe... luffy has the blood of fishmen inside of him. No matter how much you wana deny it.


I have still to find a uchiha who can counter tsunades poisons... or rival her in medical ninjutsu. All you can do is just mention who is better in fighting.... why dont you count the actual prowess?

 

[KingHashirama]

Honestly the Indra bloodline are always born with exceeding potential, but the Ashura bloodline always catch up despite being weaker at first. That, and the usually surpass the Indra line too.

Hmmm I dont think thats the case. Naruto was only behind because he didnt have a trainer. He wqs just doing random things. When he attained a trainer .... he overshadowed sasuke in potential. Years of training passed by months of training.

 

[Fire Goddess]

Indra Otsutsuki I don't need to explain it, it's a given...

Over all his descendants because the Senju were only stronger for a while (during the feudal period). So before then the Uchiha clan was stronger...
After that before the Uchiha clan massacre, they were known for being the strongest clan, even after with just Sasuke

 

[-immortal-]

Honestly the Indra bloodline are always born with exceeding potential, but the Ashura bloodline always catch up despite being weaker at first. That, and the usually surpass the Indra line too.

Hashirama was excellent
Tobirama was too. Beated the exceeding " uchiha

Naruto was born and not minutues later received the kyubi
Nagato had the rinnegan as a young child

Ashura leak always had luck

 

[Kingu]

But see, those two Ashura descendants shit over Indras entire lineage. I understand what you're getting at but Ashuras was more powerful, the number he produced is irrelevant. Even if Ashura only produced Hashirama and someone like the Uchiha produced 10 that were all Itachis level, Ashuras descendant(s) is still stronger and that one would still shit on 10 Itachis.

Also the Uchiha are only strong because of their eyes. Indras descendants are aren't some superior ass race that when it comes to all things shinobi related. Take away Sharingan from the Uchiha and they drop down to Jounin level.

I know Uchiha without eyes are nothing, but thats not what the topic is about. I mean come on Hashimara is OP especially with SM but him even with his brothers help cannot take out the Uchihas EMS Mad, DMS Obi, MS Itachi, MS Sasuke. That's pure Fapping, Indra descendants had powerful dojutsu techniques wich made them powerful, while Ashura had a Wood User and a crazy smart bro.