So, who did Kabuto summon that we don't know about?

[John Constantine]

Good point. So it's mostly likely either SO6Ps, Izuna or 1st Hokage. Any other theories?

It's most likely to be Madara's real vessel then anyone of those..

- 1st Hokage, was summoned before and wouldn't be a surprise.

- Sage of Six Path would not bring anything to Madara's story, neither it's important or matters to the current storyline.

- Izuna this one could be a real and good option.​

 

[clone101]

What if it is the real uchia mandara, an the guy know really is a fake. he said dont worry i did not tell anyone like "tobi" has a secret

i agree with this.. th whole convo between kabuto and tobi (madara) kabuto didnt seem 2 call him madara an wen he summond who ever he kinda got a tad mad like he is hiding something... also he couldnt have summond te 1st or second hokage cuz they r lockd n battl inside the reaper seal the 3rd castd... so those 2 r out.. hardly dubt it is hs brother... and the so6p is a possability but y would he summon him wen he summond nagato a rinnagan user already...

 

[ALinkToTheZack]

To sum up what other people said, the person in the coffin could have been one of several people:

1) The Sage of Six Paths -- Possible, but as people have said it's difficult to believe that Madara would recognize him since he lived long before Madara. However, Madara would recognize the Rinnegan or possibly any artifacts adorning the Sage.

2) Izuna Uchiha -- Another good suggestion. Seeing Izuna revived would definitely surprise Madara. The only problem...who cares about Izuna? He gave Madara his eyes and that's about it. Kabuto bringing him back in the coffin doesn't really accomplish much.

3) The First Hokage -- This doesn't seem very likely to me. The First had already been summoned by Orochimaru when he attacked Konoha, and he is now trapped in the Dead Demon Consuming Seal along with the next three Hokages. (Remember that the Third used the technique to seal the First and Second.)

4) The Fourth Hokage -- Again, not very likely. The Fourth used the Death God to seal the Nine-Tails in Naruto, sacrificing himself in the process. However, he somehow managed to preserve part of himself inside of Naruto...so perhaps it would still be possible to bring Minato back with Kabuto's technique. I'm not really sure Madara would have such an astonished reaction though.

5) Madara's actual body -- This seems most likely to me. Madara would certainly be surprised to see himself staring back at him from the coffin. This would give Kabuto some potential blackmail. Obviously, Madara doesn't want anyone to know about whoever is in the coffin since Kabuto even says, "You can relax. I haven't told a soul." It could be possible that Kabuto somehow found some portion of Madara's soul and was able to fix it into a corpse for his summoning technique.

I think that's about it.

 

[CheesyNaruto]

To sum up what other people said, the person in the coffin could have been one of several people:

1) The Sage of Six Paths -- Possible, but as people have said it's difficult to believe that Madara would recognize him since he lived long before Madara. However, Madara would recognize the Rinnegan or possibly any artifacts adorning the Sage.

2) Izuna Uchiha -- Another good suggestion. Seeing Izuna revived would definitely surprise Madara. The only problem...who cares about Izuna? He gave Madara his eyes and that's about it. Kabuto bringing him back in the coffin doesn't really accomplish much.

3) The First Hokage -- This doesn't seem very likely to me. The First had already been summoned by Orochimaru when he attacked Konoha, and he is now trapped in the Dead Demon Consuming Seal along with the next three Hokages. (Remember that the Third used the technique to seal the First and Second.)

4) The Fourth Hokage -- Again, not very likely. The Fourth used the Death God to seal the Nine-Tails in Naruto, sacrificing himself in the process. However, he somehow managed to preserve part of himself inside of Naruto...so perhaps it would still be possible to bring Minato back with Kabuto's technique. I'm not really sure Madara would have such an astonished reaction though.

5) Madara's actual body -- This seems most likely to me. Madara would certainly be surprised to see himself staring back at him from the coffin. This would give Kabuto some potential blackmail. Obviously, Madara doesn't want anyone to know about whoever is in the coffin since Kabuto even says, "You can relax. I haven't told a soul." It could be possible that Kabuto somehow found some portion of Madara's soul and was able to fix it into a corpse for his summoning technique.

I think that's about it.

Nice sum up, I like the point that no one cares about Izuna. Naruto fans would be more shocked about Madara's apparent actual body or SO6Ps. That's showbiz. Though to be honest he might have wanted to threaten Madara, showing how he got his brother's soul, it's a personal thing that would make Madara angry and uncomfortable.

 

[brianS]

it is not the sage, everyone knows that, it has to be someone close to madara or someone very vital to the outcome of the war

 

[jovardo]

it is not the sage, everyone knows that, it has to be someone close to madara or someone very vital to the outcome of the war

madara said to kabuto"you a MADMAN" for madara to say something like that then it must be something that is/was thought impossible to bring back or someone with great powers that are beyond madara himself for him to say such words to kabuto...it can be the sage of six path..the it might be madara uchiha's real body or soul..in manga 689 kabuto said"i came to greet you, but i heard that you go by madara uchiha these days" that shows that kabuto knew tobi as tobi and not as madara and for kabuto to say that"you go by madara these days" prove my point that tobi might be using madara as a cover up for his true identity

 

[TsunadeHime]

Maybe it is the SO6P... then when he fights naruto he'll be like, "it seems i picked the right son to carry out peace in this world." you know
like the senju clan? and madara was said he could see the senju clan's will in him
woot woot

 

[Blizzard589]

Yeah I think Tobi is someone else. And Kabuto summoned Madara. That would be the reason Tobi would be afraid that Kabuto had told someone because it would blow his cover. But Kabuto put him at ease by saying he hadn't told anyone. Also, Kishi has been writing ppl saying "the one who calls himself Madara". No one truly believes he is Madara except Sasuke lol and possibly Itachi (unless it was part of his elaborate schemes to pretend to believe).

The true man behind the mask could be any number of people. Maybe its Shisui, restored by Zetsu after Danzo had his way with him. Maybe it's *gasp* Obito. Maybe it's Izuna. Maybe it's freakin Santa Claus. The point is, we have no idea until we are given more clues.

 

[SenjuTobirama]

I think it is either the 4th hokage, madaras real body, or his brother.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

My views. All of these guys mentioned seem to be very likely, though I did not read all the posts in this thread...

Sage of the Six Paths- Very likely. For one thing, to the guy who said that Madara wouldn't know what he looked like, it may not matter. When the 3rd fought Orochimaru, there were three coffins. Two that came up successfully, and one that was stopped. The thing was, the coffins had the symbol on the front of who it was. Also, the Rinnegan, or the necklace that the Sage and Deva Path wore stood out. On top of that, they put all this hype about the Sage of the Sixth Paths up and we have yet to see his abilities.

Izuna- Until he got his eyes plucked out, he was said to be Madara's equal. Now I believe he gave them willingly to Madara, because if Izuna was almost equal to Madara and still had enough sight left to combat before his eyes were taken, there would be no way a blind Madara could take his eyes just like that. This isn't Dragon Ball Z where you can sense an opponents movements to fight them. If Madara is actually a shell of his former self, then Izuna coming back to the story would serve a lot to the current storyline because he would most likely be brought back with the power he had before his death.

Madara himself- Well, I still think Tobi is Madara. It is possible that he is using a jutsu to take over someone elses body. We have seen it in the Naruto universe with Pain, except they were corpses that had chakra rods moving everything, but essentially it all comes down to using a body that isn't actually yours. It made me think a bit...Did Madara really use Izanagi against the first? When Danzo used it, his health remained the same minus him losing a Sharingan and his chakra taking a huge dip.

Hashirama- To the guy who said that he can't be resurrected because he is sealed in the Death God. That may be true, but if you watch the fight against the 3rd and Orochimaru, well not watch, but read the fight again, you'll see that Madara tried to summon someone who was quite obviously Minato. Minato had sealed himself with the other part of the Kyuubi's chakra, but Orochimaru was still able to bring his soul back.
The argument stands that Minato put some of his soul in Naruto, but it was actually life force and we have no idea if that is the same thing. Plus, do you honestly think Orochimaru knew that before summoning Minato?

It could be Hashirama, but I don't think it is. It wouldn't stand to have Hashirama appear like that again.

 

[CheesyNaruto]

This probably doesn't mean anything, but does anyone else think that Tobi looks alot like the Senju clan ancestor? This probably doesn't mean anything, the fact that he's an apparent Uchiha who believes power is the way forward. But if the guy in the coffin was the real Madara, his cover is blown. And if his cover is blown the whole Senju clan would be dishonoured by their founder.
It doesn't explain how he obtained the sharingan, unless for some reason he transplanted it into his right eye.
It's very unlikely, but I'd like to open the possibilities.

 

[ALinkToTheZack]

My views. All of these guys mentioned seem to be very likely, though I did not read all the posts in this thread...

Sage of the Six Paths- Very likely. For one thing, to the guy who said that Madara wouldn't know what he looked like, it may not matter. When the 3rd fought Orochimaru, there were three coffins. Two that came up successfully, and one that was stopped. The thing was, the coffins had the symbol on the front of who it was. Also, the Rinnegan, or the necklace that the Sage and Deva Path wore stood out. On top of that, they put all this hype about the Sage of the Sixth Paths up and we have yet to see his abilities.

Izuna- Until he got his eyes plucked out, he was said to be Madara's equal. Now I believe he gave them willingly to Madara, because if Izuna was almost equal to Madara and still had enough sight left to combat before his eyes were taken, there would be no way a blind Madara could take his eyes just like that. This isn't Dragon Ball Z where you can sense an opponents movements to fight them. If Madara is actually a shell of his former self, then Izuna coming back to the story would serve a lot to the current storyline because he would most likely be brought back with the power he had before his death.

Madara himself- Well, I still think Tobi is Madara. It is possible that he is using a jutsu to take over someone elses body. We have seen it in the Naruto universe with Pain, except they were corpses that had chakra rods moving everything, but essentially it all comes down to using a body that isn't actually yours. It made me think a bit...Did Madara really use Izanagi against the first? When Danzo used it, his health remained the same minus him losing a Sharingan and his chakra taking a huge dip.

Hashirama- To the guy who said that he can't be resurrected because he is sealed in the Death God. That may be true, but if you watch the fight against the 3rd and Orochimaru, well not watch, but read the fight again, you'll see that Madara tried to summon someone who was quite obviously Minato. Minato had sealed himself with the other part of the Kyuubi's chakra, but Orochimaru was still able to bring his soul back.
The argument stands that Minato put some of his soul in Naruto, but it was actually life force and we have no idea if that is the same thing. Plus, do you honestly think Orochimaru knew that before summoning Minato?

It could be Hashirama, but I don't think it is. It wouldn't stand to have Hashirama appear like that again.

Could you or someone else link me to Orochimaru's fight with the Third. I think I remember what you're talking about, and I'd like to change of my summation.

 

[eliteplague]

The summon is probably Chuck Norris, I mean did you see the fear on Madara's face, only Chuck Norris can strike such dreadful fear.

 

[kisamexRocks]

Could you or someone else link me to Orochimaru's fight with the Third. I think I remember what you're talking about, and I'd like to change of my summation.

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That's close to the start of the fight. I believe it's Chapter 117 that starts the summonings.

 

[coly369]

hey dont just focus in the future also look past chapter am reading again the manga from the start so if i can figure sometime but why that sum and why the lab and tobi (madara ) talking about the rennigan

 

[ALinkToTheZack]

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That's close to the start of the fight. I believe it's Chapter 117 that starts the summonings.

Ah, thanks for that. You're right, it seems clear that Orochimaru was trying to summon the Fourth as well on page 19 of chapter 117. Hmmm... Perhaps we still don't fully understand Kabuto's resurrection technique. It's true that Minato sealed himself with the Kyuubi's chakra and in the Death God's belly, but Orochimaru still seemed as though he would have been able to summon him. Does anyone have any ideas as to how?

 

[John Constantine]

Yeah I think Tobi is someone else. And Kabuto summoned Madara. That would be the reason Tobi would be afraid that Kabuto had told someone because it would blow his cover. But Kabuto put him at ease by saying he hadn't told anyone. Also, Kishi has been writing ppl saying "the one who calls himself Madara". No one truly believes he is Madara except Sasuke lol and possibly Itachi (unless it was part of his elaborate schemes to pretend to believe).

The true man behind the mask could be any number of people. Maybe its Shisui, restored by Zetsu after Danzo had his way with him. Maybe it's *gasp* Obito. Maybe it's Izuna. Maybe it's freakin Santa Claus. The point is, we have no idea until we are given more clues.

Danzo also refered to him as Madara.. And they seemed to know each other from the past..​

 

[T27]

Tell me again why Tobi can't be Obito? To me it still seems like it. :/

Kabuto revealing a mysterious coffin, Tobi being frightened by that and Kabuto stating that he won't tell anyone would mean that Tobi has a very big secret.

 

[NineTailedSharingan]

What if it is the real uchia mandara, an the guy know really is a fake. he said dont worry i did not tell anyone like "tobi" has a secret

The Exact thing i was thinking about i was planning to make a thead about that but now Nevermind

 

[Shunsui]

kabuto said: you can RELAX i havent shown a Soul

key words, relax, show a soul... now like some people say it might be some kage, so6p or his bro, now tell me why should he get nearvious? It should be smth what madara is afraid of, truth maybe.....

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