Is something really bad or good?

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How can we really tell? What if we are wrong about "bad" and "good"? Did society create these ideals of "good" and "bad"? What if bad(ex:rape,killing innocent) was actually good and good(ex:helping the sickly,being nice) was actually bad? What if the ideals of bad and good didn't actually exist?Sorry if my post is too general and not detailed.
 

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Weren't you just telling me a couple of days ago how it was foolish to not vocally disagree with unequivocally poor decisions? lol
 

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It's a combination of nature and society. Rape and killing the innocent cannot be good in my opinion because you do not want that to happen to yourself, and as humans we can have compassion and empathy. If I hurt someone, I'll genuinely feel sorry for them and regret it and I doubt that has to do with society.

Everything is subjective.
 

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It's all about what's socially accepted with general ideals.
Take the Nazi for example they were able to brainwash millions of Germans to believe killing the Jews was a good thing so it became socially acceptable to treat Jews like **** (kill them, rape, experiment, etc)
Our perception of good and bad are based on what we've been taught, the environment surrounding us, and to be socially accepted among the majority.
Edit: Almost forgot nature as well, some people just get a horrible feeling (such as hurting somebody else) and that's what they find morally right or wrong .
 
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I think its natural for people to decide what they find morally right or wrong. Of course we are heavily influenced by our societies and social customs. But even these widespread customs drastically change over time.
 

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Good or bad by a person's perspective is taught when they were young.

Whether it be by a parent/guardian or by society
 

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It's all about what's socially accepted with general ideals.
Take the Nazi for example they were able to brainwash millions of Germans to believe killing the Jews was a good thing so it became socially acceptable to treat Jews like **** (kill them, rape, experiment, etc)
Our perception of good and bad are based on what we've been taught, the environment surrounding us, and to be socially accepted among the majority.
Nature too.
 

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Well It depends on your standards of those 2 words, Not everyone will define them the same and that's exactly why it's pointless to ask this question.People that share the same opinion/idea about something call it a fact especially if that idea/opinion is mostly accepted by a lot of people which is where the concept of rape being "bad" or acting nice being "good all started.
 

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Cannabis stimulates the brain which en-turns allows you to see these things more clearly.

True Story.
 

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Notice how, throughout time, societies' ideas of bad and good have been relatively the same. It's not like everyone randomly decided to hate on killing and everyone agreed to it since the beginning.
 

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Weren't you just telling me a couple of days ago how it was foolish to not vocally disagree with unequivocally poor decisions? lol

Yes, I'm not saying I don't see stuff as bad or good though. But by definition Immature is not fully developed.If you can't support yourself or another in a way it would be considered not fully developed. Like some young parents or marriage couples don't know how to deal with financial issues and don't think about the future consequence of their actions. Almost none of my friends who had kids or got marriage know how to deal with that.
 

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Anyway, I think that we instinctively have very similar ideas of what good/bad and right/wrong are. Those are changed by already established things in the world as we develop. I believe that those changes can be reverted though. It just requires a lot of thought.

Yes, I'm not saying I don't see stuff as bad or good though. But by definition Immature is not fully developed.If you can't support yourself or another in a way it would be considered not fully developed. Like some young parents or marriage couples don't know how to deal with financial issues and don't think about the future consequence of their actions. Almost none of my friends who had kids or got marriage know how to deal with that.

And you think you are more mature than them solely because of that? It's off-topic at this point, but you don't seem to be thinking too thoroughly about it.
 
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I don't believe anything is inherently good or bad; if something is either, it's because we as human beings decided they were.
 

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Anyway, I think that we instinctively have very similar ideas of what good/bad and right/wrong are. Those are changed by already established things in the world as we develop. I believe that those changes can be reverted though. It just requires a lot of thought.



And you think you are more mature than them solely because of that? It's off-topic at this point, but you don't seem to be thinking too thoroughly about it.

In that aspect I do think I am but in others they might be more level headed about something(i probably should have explain that yesterday but i was replying to all of stuff). I'm not saying I'm perfect because once although my boyfriend and I use protection it broke and I was afraid of my birth control failing so I got a plan b and pregnancy test.I know not everyone can go buy that but I think they should have at least used a condom. Because some of them are struggling, not working, refuse to work(my cousin) and asking for money.
 

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Nothing is truly good or bad...subjective thinking. True human nature is to originally kill on your own free will, yet society deemed it bad hence why it is now looked down upon. But it remains there lurking...waiting for even the slightest reason to come to fruition.
 

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Notice how, throughout time, societies' ideas of bad and good have been relatively the same. It's not like everyone randomly decided to hate on killing and everyone agreed to it since the beginning.

Thats not always the case though. I think its more interesting how much we actually change. Social customs aren't as static as you believe. Whether it is stances on homosexuality, gender equality, racial equality, or pre-marital ***. But of course murder and rape are the highest moral laws humans have given themselves so those would be the most difficult to change.
 

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Thats not always the case though. I think its more interesting how much we actually change. Social customs aren't as static as you believe. Whether it is stances on homosexuality, gender equality, racial equality, or pre-marital ***. But of course murder and rape are the highest moral laws humans have given themselves so those would be the most difficult to change.
Yeah, those things are easily changed. I'm talking about stealing, lying, hurting others.
 

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Good and bad are correlated to ones morals.
 
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