MS Kakashi vs. Mu

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Starting Distance: 40 meters
Intel: Full for both sides
Location: Naruto and Sakura vs. Kakashi (Bell Test, Part II)
Restrictions: Offensive Kamui snipe is restricted.

Scenario 2: No restrictions.

Will Kakashi be sleeping with the fishes tonight? Or will Kakashi make Mū an offer he can't refuse?
 

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Muu wins both scenes

both guys r tactical & shifty, so jin'ton won't come into play.
kakashi will eventually lose when he goes for a kamui & gets shunshin blitzed by muu split half, as he'll be left wide open.
 

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With his Mangekyo restricted, I think that Kakashi will find a lot of difficulties to defeat Mu, if the Sharingan can't see him. If the Sharingan can see him, Kakashi wins high diff: he is more than fast enough to dodge Jinton, and with his versatility and smartness can find a way to hit Mu in the air, but that won't be easy.

With Mangekyo unrestricted, Kakashi negs. He simply warps Mu away before he can do anything. Kakashi could warp head sized objects in the same window of time of Obito's intangibility and of a movement of 5 cm from KCM Naruto, human sized masses so fast that Obito with full knowledge and top notch reflexes boosted by Mangekyo Sharingan and Rinnegan vision couldn't perceive the warping happening in front of their eyes, giant sized masses even faster than the instant summon of the Summoning Jutsu. Kakashi could also warp with ease Susanoo arrows that were shot when he didn't have the Mangekyo activated and even surprise attacks from Juubi jinchuriki Madara, and even warp away his Gudodama to help his friend Gai in his battle against the Uchiha. Even Minato couldn't perceive what happened when Kakashi used Kamui on the Gedo Mazo while Madara was summoning it, as Obito couldn't react to his quick use of Kamui. Even Madara Uchiha admitted Kakashi's Kamui worth as a jutsu, the same Madara who talked shit about EMS Sasuke. Kamui GG is much faster than Mu going invisible. And that's debatable that the Sharingan can't see him, anyway.
 

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Not sure how some of you clowns came to the conclusion that Kakashi loses to Mū but Itachi somehow wins. That is like saying Tobirama wins against Itachi but golden boy somehow loses (though any version of Itachi loses to FTG users).
 

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Mu wins scenario one with mid difficulty.

Kakashi wins scenario two with mid difficulty.

Full intel means that Mu knows about raiton bunshins so he won't go in CQC unless he wants to get paralysed. Not to mention that is hard countered once Kakashi gets full intel on Mu's invisibility. Mu wins scenario one because jinton is faster and more hax than anything in Kakashi's arsenal barring offensive Kamui. Scenario two is won by Kakashi because offensive Kamui>jinton in speed and hax.

Actually defensive kamui allows Kakashi to avoid jinton so I guess Kakashi could take scenario one as well.
 

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if tracking by movements in air currents and sound works, Kakashi wins.


if Mu tries to cut Kakashi down with his swords using invisibility, feints Mu and paralyses him while Kakashi snipes him.
-becoming visible and using Jinton is fruitless because Kamui is much faster than Jinton
 

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if tracking by movements in air currents and sound works, Kakashi wins.


if Mu tries to cut Kakashi down with his swords using invisibility, feints Mu and paralyses him while Kakashi snipes him.
-becoming visible and using Jinton is fruitless because Kamui is much faster than Jinton
That's not working at mid to long range.
 

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Mu wins scenario one with mid difficulty.

Kakashi wins scenario two with mid difficulty.

Full intel means that Mu knows about raiton bunshins so he won't go in CQC unless he wants to get paralysed. Not to mention that is hard countered once Kakashi gets full intel on Mu's invisibility. Mu wins scenario one because jinton is faster and more hax than anything in Kakashi's arsenal barring offensive Kamui. Scenario two is won by Kakashi because offensive Kamui>jinton in speed and hax.

Actually defensive kamui allows Kakashi to avoid jinton so I guess Kakashi could take scenario one as well.
So Kakashi can't react to and dodge jinton without defensive Kamui but Itachi can...? I guess there is a large gap between them in reflexes and shunshin...?

tracking? yes, but Mu needs to come close to actually land a hit on Kakashi outside of Jinton
Jinton is the real reason why Mū wins against Kakashi and Itachi. Invisible sword slashes can be countered easily by both.
 

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So Kakashi can't react to and dodge jinton without defensive Kamui but Itachi can...? I guess there is a large gap between them in reflexes and shunshin...?
When did I say he can't? Without offensive Kamui, Kakashi can't pressure him as easily as Itachi can with amaterasu, so Mu will eventually be able to get Kakashi without having to go too far away. Boy you get rustled whenever you perceive of Kakashi being underrated compared to Itachi. Though it's pretty much fact that at the same age, Itachi is vastly superior to Kakashi so eat that.

Jinton is the real reason why Mū wins against Kakashi and Itachi. Invisible sword slashes can be countered easily by both.
Good some Mu backers think he can just go invisible and take out high level shinobi like Minato, Tobirama, Itachi, Kakashi, Gai, etc. via that strategy.
 

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When did I say he can't? Without offensive Kamui, Kakashi can't pressure him as easily as Itachi can with amaterasu, so Mu will eventually be able to get Kakashi without having to go too far away. Boy you get rustled whenever you perceive of Kakashi being underrated compared to Itachi. Though it's pretty much fact that at the same age, Itachi is vastly superior to Kakashi so eat that.
Not me getting rustled, just simply pointing out what I see as hypocrisy. Maybe if you considered my statement that War Arc Kakashi surpassed Itachi, you'd know that I agree with earlier versions of Itachi being superior, so...

Good some Mu backers think he can just go invisible and take out high level shinobi like Minato, Tobirama, Itachi, Kakashi, Gai, etc. via that strategy.
Like who? That's crap.

Anyways it's funny how much people hate Kamui even though Amaterasu and Susano'o are equally as boring.
 
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