If Hiruzen was Hokage

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tough one hiruzen losses without info
with info he gets to the fifth
 

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Without tsunade every person would have turned to nothing because of ST. No bodies=no resurrection.

thats not true there were a couple people under some rubble that died in the initial attack. and then a bunch of ninja survived without tsunades help at all like kiba and friends. and ST pushes stuff it doesn't obliterate them
 

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If he was in his prime, the village wouldn't even been hurt.
 

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thats not true there were a couple people under some rubble that died in the initial attack. and then a bunch of ninja survived without tsunades help at all like kiba and friends. and ST pushes stuff it doesn't obliterate them

I don't know man. The force was strong enough to obliterate boulders. Anyhow, without Katsuya the dead count would have been far more.
 

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The Question is, can pain counter Enma ?
can pain counter 7695 jutsu exist within konoha ?
can pain counter death shinigami ?
Emna push all summon out of village at ease.

Well for one, the moment Hiruzen uses RDS, Pein would have won the fight as he is literally just a dead body being controlled via chakra rods Lol Hiruzen would die for nothing, just to get trolled
 

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Hiruzen wins high diff. Pain was too scared to take over the village during Hiruzen's reign. That's why he waited until Tsunade became Hokage.

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I don't know man. The force was strong enough to obliterate boulders. Anyhow, without Katsuya the dead count would have been far more.

yeah thats true I'm sure a 100 or so people woulda been damaged beyond repair. tho i feel like hiruzen wouldn't have just stood by like tsunade and allowed pain to just come and go the way he did when they met up
 

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Orochimaru + Hashirama + Tobirama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pain.

Remember Hashirama and Tobirama were at 10% and Orochimaru did no real fighting on his own, just let the Edo' s fight so Pain would be a more formidable opponent. There is much more people he is facing, each one of them negs the Hashirama and Tobirama that Hiruzen fought.
 

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Hiruzen wins high diff. Pain was too scared to take over the village during Hiruzen's reign. That's why he waited until Tsunade became Hokage.

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pain wasn't even thought about during hiruzen's reign
 

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everyone would die. hiruzen wouldnt be able to beat pain, he was unable to handle orochimaru, so he cant exactly turn the tide of the fight. if he was hokage, tsunade wouldnt have came back to the village. no tsunade = no survivors of massive shinra tensei = no hinata saving naruto = everyone dies.
 

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Bruh. Hiruzen's grandson managed to solo a Path. And he just had a small fraction of Rikuzen's neutralizer genes. The real OG would solo so hard that Pain would say with certainity to Naruto that "his pain was created than yours"

Seriously tho, a lot more people would probably die whitout Tsunade healing the village and Katsuyu tanking the blunt of Chou Shinra Tensei. He could probably have defeated some of that Paths before Naruto come, tho.
 

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Lol, everybody wants to make fun of Hiruzen because of Neutralizer no jutsu... Come on people, thats just unfair.

IMO he would have handled him easily. First off Enma alone would kill off a few paths of pain. Secondly he has eternal darkness jutsu which negates Pains connected vision, lastly people say no survivors but that doesnt even matter because Nagato revived everyone anyways.

Long story short the only thing Tsunade did during the pain fight was heal people that would have been revived anyways. Thats like eating at home before you go to a restaurant. Any of the Kage would have been more beneficial.


In case anyone was wondering about the neutralizer thing. Back when Hiruzen was fighting Orochimaru it looked like he used a jutsu so stop Orochimaru from summoning the 3rd Hokages reincarnation. So everyone thought he had a Neutralizer jutsu, When in reality the summoning didnt go through because the 3rds soul was sealed by RDS.

Thus the Neutralizer Jutsu meme was borned
 
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