[Discussion] One of the Characters that i felt really sorry for....

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Sakura thought Kariya's death was one of her grandfather's - Zouken - lessons that she shouldn't disobey him. The fact that she actually stayed back and watch his corpse be devoured by worms should tell you that she had a feelings for him. Does not mean that she can express them though considering that Sakura's mentality at the time was to become like a living doll so she would stop crying and screaming.

As for who deserves the most sympathy in the whole Fate series, it's probably Shirou or Sakura.

Well i didnt want her to cry but calling him a fool looks like it was a waste ok i wouldnt have done the exact same as Kariya it was predictable that he would end like that

Sympathy Well each has their own kind of sympathy mine is Lancer the servant of Keyneth im a Honorperson after all i cant help it
Thats why i sometimes hate Kiritsugu for that one action but well Kiritsugu is still cool
 

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Well i didnt want her to cry but calling him a fool looks like it was a waste ok i wouldnt have done the exact same as Kariya it was predictable that he would end like that

The whole Kariya thing was pointless to begin with as Zouken never actually thought Kariya had a chance of winning and he used him as a way to teach Sakura a lesson. He was trying to teach her that anyone who disobeys him is a fool and Sakura realized the point of the lesson and called Kariya a fool because just like Zouken meant to prove; he had absolutely no chance of winning this from the very start and he shouldn't have disobeyed Zouken.

Sakura merely repeats the point of Zouken's lesson by calling him a fool. No matter how you view it, Kariya was a fool and Sakura - someone who operated as a doll with no emotions at the time - called him one despite having feelings for him solely because she was doll-like.
 

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The whole Kariya thing was pointless to begin with as Zouken never actually thought Kariya had a chance of winning and he used him as a way to teach Sakura a lesson. He was trying to teach her that anyone who disobeys him is a fool and Sakura realized the point of the lesson and called Kariya a fool because just like Zouken meant to prove; he had absolutely no chance of winning this from the very start and he shouldn't have disobeyed Zouken.

Sakura merely repeats the point of Zouken's lesson by calling him a fool. No matter how you view it, Kariya was a fool and Sakura - someone who operated as a doll with no emotions at the time - called him one despite having feelings for him solely because she was doll-like.

Ok well true Kariya was a fool in my eyes sometimes too whatever still Kariya has my respect and well Zouken that old man hopefully dies i hated him the whole time I know he is immortal but still maybe away to let him suffer

Maybe i change my mind i do not know what happens in fate with her

But damm Matou is such a disgusting family Shinji Mato i hate too

But actually as i already said there were characters i felt more sorry to example Lancer
 
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He was one of the most when i see people like Kayneth and Ryunosuke its so obvious Kirei is also villain but cool and well emiya can be coldhearted too when i thought about Lancers death i am angry at Emiya too Tokiomi also coldhearted which makes him somehow cool the only master nicer than him is Riders


Ok really but it was understandable
He was already ****ed up and ok maybe yeah its his fault but still the fact that Tokiomi Tohsaka do not care for his family is true tokiomi admitted that himself and Kirei fooled Kariya so its not like his complete fault Kireis goal was to let people believe that Kariya is the murderer
Tokiomis wife is blind she is not aware that Tokiomi is evil i like Tokiomi but he is still evil in my eyes I also was angry at their mother
Ok Kariya is not my favorite at all but still it was hard how he ended
And even if he was a bit foolish he deserves respect without magic talent to face this war deserves respect

Tokiomi Tohsaka did care for his family, wtf are you even talking about? Remember that he left rin so she wouldn't be involved with the whole grial war?
 

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I like Shinji.

He's written as unsympathetic in Stay Night, but he's a good character and the role he had in the story was done well. Not to mention he's likeable outside of a HGW and has great comedy scenes in Hollow Ataraxia.
 

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Tokiomi Tohsaka did care for his family, wtf are you even talking about? Remember that he left rin so she wouldn't be involved with the whole grial war?




Well i see i forgot about that
i just know that he has two sides
One as a warm hearted person and one as a cold hearted person

Before Kariya he said when they fail in magic his family is rubble

Well whatever there are actually other characters i understood more

I like Shinji.

He's written as unsympathetic in Stay Night, but he's a good character and the role he had in the story was done well. Not to mention he's likeable outside of a HGW and has great comedy scenes in Hollow Ataraxia.

I see well i just know him in Fate/Stay Night miht chnage my mind
Well there is a villain i really like the best character for me is Kuzuki
That teacher that is Casters master
 
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He has a human and a Magus side. However, that whole thing isn't very developed in Zero since Tokiomi's characterization is no where near Rin's or Caster's from Stay Night.
 

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He has a human and a Magus side. However, that whole thing isn't very developed in Zero since Tokiomi's characterization is no where near Rin's or Caster's from Stay Night.

Thats right
Im still looking Fate/Stay Night i want to see how they are developed

The most characters im looking forward to Kuzuki and Sasaki Koujirou assasin The Samurai
 

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Being Kariya is suffering. His character was Made for it.
Although he had his reasons, he himself also acted like a fool at times.

From Fate, Feelitsugu, Iri and Illya are the ones who has always successfully delivered the Feels here. Ofc there are some more tragic characters too.
 
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