Honestly, was Tsunade a better Hokage than Hiruzen?

[Nagi]

Because it was their leader that steer up the war. But instead of live in peace, they want to destroy the village... They werent live in a cage, it was a fking free land, enough of food...bla bla bla, maybe not as good as the inside village but definitly better than the sand village. What will they gain if they kill the hokage and many innocent ?

Steer up what war? the first war? The 1st hokage gave out tailed beats to all the nations as a sign of peace. They got greedy! The uchiha clan got nothing to do with that. They all couldn't just leave the village. If they left, other nations would see the hidden village weaken and attack.

They don't plan on killing innocent. Only take out the leaders. But really. They didn't even have a plan in motion yet. They was simply collection information through itachi.

Bottom line, The leaders didn't want to treat them as equal because they were afraid that Uchiha will let the power go to their head and that they will take them out.

If they had treated them equally, The hidden leaf would have the Uchiha's strength in all of the 3 great wars and stomp all of the other nations.

 

[Nagi]

Tobirama had reason to do what he did, the uchiha were planning a rebellion even during his time.

Danzo didn't take after him, tobirama would have not just killed an entire clan because of a few members or he would have done so already.

Also it was hiruzen that ordered the death of the uchiha it was danzo.

why that happen? It was all because tobirama kept them out of foreign affairs. Being kept out of foreign affairs is basically saying you're not really part of the village.

 

[Aznkidd]

Hiruzen was great. He did everything perfectly and entrusted the title to Minato in order to enjoy his retirement. What that foddaime did ? Let Tobi kill his his wife and let Kyuubi butcher villagers. And on top of that he died while leaving the chaotic village to the old man. It is truly amazing of Hiruzen that no other village invaded Konoha after this incident.

That goddaime saved the village and kill any threat to the village during the invasion. The rest is easy since kuybii is gone, obito is no longer threat. Chaotic village = politics... and the suspect of uchiha.
They had land to live, enough of food to eat as every one else inside the village and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sand village thousand times. Yet they want trouble and want to kill innocent, even tho they did not deserve to die but servere punishment. They are just stupid to think that will change anything if they kill all leaders, that wont change a thing, maybe they get to live inside the village ? for that to kill ? what a stupid.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Nope, Gramps acted his age. He was a amazing Hokage.

 

[Aznkidd]

Steer up what war? the first war? The 1st hokage gave out tailed beats to all the nations as a sign of peace. They got greedy! The uchiha clan got nothing to do with that. They all couldn't just leave the village. If they left, other nations would see the hidden village weaken and attack.

They don't plan on killing innocent. Only take out the leaders. But really. They didn't even have a plan in motion yet. They was simply collection information through itachi.

Bottom line, The leaders didn't want to treat them as equal because they were afraid that Uchiha will let the power go to their head and that they will take them out.

If they had treated them equally, The hidden leaf would have the Uchiha's strength in all of the 3 great wars and stomp all of the other nations.

want to treat equal = kill ? what a stupid idea to hear. May be i live in peaceful country and i found it is very stupid to kill for equal thing when those people HAS LAND TO LIVE, ENOUGH FOOD TO EAT.......

 

[Nagi]

want to treat equal = kill ? what a stupid idea to hear. May be i live in peaceful country and i found it is very stupid to kill for equal thing when those people HAS LAND TO LIVE, ENOUGH FOOD TO EAT.......

They don't want to live on their knees. In fact Naruto and the Uchiha clan had a lot in common. Being treated like an outsider, an threat. I rather stand and fight til I die then live on my knees in a village where people thinks I'm a threat.

 

[New Dawn]

So basically Danzo called the shots.

Hiruzen was a weak leader that was why Danzo could pull of the shit he wanted to. Tsunade would smash the old man's wrinkled **** if he tried anything like the Uchiha massacre.

 

[New Dawn]

The Uchiha acted that way after Tobirama pushed them to the borders of the village. Even before he was Hokage, when Senju and Uchiha were getting along just fine in their newly formed village, Tobirama was constantly paranoid the Uchiha boogeyman was out to get him.

Not to mention Obitard's attack on Konoha made it even worst.

 

[MinaButt]

Hiruzen the potato hokage.

 

[Aznkidd]

They don't want to live on their knees. In fact Naruto and the Uchiha clan had a lot in common. Being treated like an outsider, an threat. I rather stand and fight til I die then live on my knees in a village where people thinks I'm a threat.

They arent live on their knees to anyone, stop making up thing. They live in the borderline, they are just invidual clan, can even form a small village on their own. If someone treat you as an outsider, a threat, seriously, just go away, or live as you dont hear anything, or try one by one to persue your idea. Fight til you die is just a terrible idea. No one hurt you physically, no one enslave you, no one put you in a locked cage. Why do you need to kill them, just because they call you banana ?

 

[Nagi]

They arent live on their knees to anyone, stop making up thing. They live in the borderline, they are just invidual clan, can even form a small village on their own. If someone treat you as an outsider, a threat, seriously, just go away, or live as you dont hear anything, or try one by one to persue your idea. Fight til you die is just a terrible idea. No one hurt you physically, no one enslave you, no one put you in a locked cage. Why do you need to kill them, just because they call you banana ?

A clan cannot simple leave the hidden leaf village. Beside with somebody like Danzo around, they won't be left alone.

But really, this was all plot no jutsu. A lot of shit didn't make sense in that village.


let me make it easy for you.

Uchiha clan = black people.

Police...


majority of people don't trust black people. Majority of people don't like the police.


Uchiha police = black people taking on the police job


That's mad hate right there.

How the F would you feel?

 

[Aznkidd]

A clan cannot simple leave the hidden leaf village. Beside with somebody like Danzo around, they won't be left alone.

But really, this was all plot no jutsu. A lot of shit didn't make sense in that village.

They can leave whenever they want, just there are too many people after their blood. But if they choose to stay they have to live like that, things can be changed through times.
Do you know what, people around the world is trying to flee from war country to peaceful country, ofc peaceful country cannot make them citizen yet even for hundred of years, so it is right to kill the peaceful country leader just for equality ?
If they had a land, why dont they just live quitely, and make it a better place ?

 

[Nagi]

They can leave whenever they want, just there are too many people after their blood. But if they choose to stay they have to live like that, things can be changed through times.
Do you know what, people around the world is trying to flee from war country to peaceful country, ofc peaceful country cannot make them citizen yet even for hundred of years, so it is right to kill the peaceful country leader just for equality ?
If they had a land, why dont they just live quitely, and make it a better place ?

Well, how come any of the Hokage didn't offer them to leave the village? Why not banish them? The 3rd hokage was said to the be the smartest and shit. Yet he couldn't find a solution? failed hokage.

 

[Aznkidd]

Well, how come any of the Hokage didn't offer them to leave the village? Why not banish them? The 3rd hokage was said to the be the smartest and shit. Yet he couldn't find a solution? failed hokage.

They are not bound to anything or what ever fanfic you come up with. They are not prisoned, caged. They can simply leave when they want to. Black people do not have right to kill white leader if they treat them like banana, that is crime. The only peaceful solution ever is through speech, it doesnt matter if it fails countless time, it has to go through that way. You do not do violent to get justice because it get you nowhere but violent and fear.

 

[Nagi]

They are not bound to anything or what ever fanfic you come up with. They are not prisoned, caged. They can simply leave when they want to. Black people do not have right to kill white leader if they treat them like banana, that is crime. The only peaceful solution ever is through speech, it doesnt matter if it fails countless time, it has to go through that way. You do not do violent to get justice because it get you nowhere but violent and fear.

But discrimination is not a crime? okay. The Hokage bear no responsibility for this? okay. Good night.

 

[Aznkidd]

But discrimination is not a crime? okay. The Hokage bear no responsibility for this? okay. Good night.

discrimination or not, it will be jugded when everything is settle, but you DO NOT KILL. If some one talk bad to you it is just a trivial, nothin more, you simply ignore it or try to make them understand through speech, lecture..... As long as they dont hurt you physically, enslave you, you do not have right to harm them, ever...

 

[Nagi]

discrimination or not, it will be jugded when everything is settle, but you DO NOT KILL. If some one talk bad to you it is just a trivial, nothin more, you simply ignore it or try to make them understand through speech, lecture..... As long as they dont hurt you physically, enslave you, you do not have right to harm them, ever...

well guess what. The Uchiha clan in the hidden leaf village didn't attack anybody! So tell me who is at fault here? If anything, The Uchiha clan was slaughtered for thinking freely.

So tell me who is at fault here? Tell me that hidden leaf village was right to kill innocent uchiha children! Tell me why the hidden leaf village thought it was okay to ordered Itachi to slaughter the whole clan! What did that uchiha candy shop done wrong to village to earn that?

I can tell right now that your favorite anime character is suzaku.

 

[Dannie]

Yeah, she was. She actually stood up to people who didn't agree or believe in her choices.

Hiruzen is pathetic who let Danzo make his choices and look how that turned out.

 

[HiddenSound]

Yeah. I honestly think she would find a better solution with the Uchiha clan than the 3rd.

You think the student of the 3rd who subscribed to his ideals would find a better solution than the 3rd? Probably not, their "solutions" would be similar.
OT: what policies? What politics? The only political move I recall was failing to label Sasuke a rogue ninja..
Though her healing the village is of course applause-worthy, doesn't factor in to her politics. Speaking of politics, the only one who played anything similar to politics was Danzō. We never saw any real politics or policies by any Kage ever.
Edit: except Tobirama

 

[HiddenSound]

Yes, because neither Danzo nor elders had much power when Tsunade was in charge. When Hiruzen was kage, it was Danzo and village elders who messed everything up.

What did the Elders mess up.