Sasuke can't use Lord Itachi's eyes to their full potential

[Punk Hazard]

Tsukuyomi is unique only to Itachi like how Enton is unique to Sauce and how Kamui is unique to Obito.

I think you're incorrect, but I doubt you came here for reasonable discussion.

 

[New Dawn]

I think you're incorrect, but I doubt you came here for reasonable discussion.

If I'm incorrect then it means that Lord Itachi Kamuis your head off.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

I said Sasuke couldn't use Tsukuyomi as well as Itachi could because he didn't have an affinity for it, and comparing him to Danzo's and Kakashi's progress in their Dojutsu isn't viable because Danzo had his for more or less a decade and it was stressed that it took Kakashi years to master Kamui, while Sasuke had his eyes for a few days.

Madara's lack of the limitation doesn't mean Sasuke lacks the limitation as well.

Madara is a Indra reincarnate just as Sasuke, they're similar in a lot of ways. Aside from that Solo Crow was able to use KA, did it trained for it as well ?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Madara is a Indra reincarnate just as Sasuke, they're similar in a lot of ways. Aside from that Solo Crow was able to use KA, did it trained for it as well ?

The crow didn't use KA, KA happened because of how Itachi programmed the eye and the crow.

And? That doesn't mean Madara and Sasuke will have the same abilities and limitations. It not being a limit for Madara does not mean it won't be a limit for Sasuke.

 

[Holy God]

They're related. As soon as the Mangekyou of your brother or sister is implemented, the eye changes to your own Eternal Mangekyou. Sure, the deigns merge, but nothing suggests you receive the powers of your siblings.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

They're related. As soon as the Mangekyou of your brother or sister is implemented, the eye changes to your own Eternal Mangekyou. Sure, the deigns merge, but nothing suggests you receive the powers of your siblings.

But it is shown that you could use the powers of an MS which you implanted. Against Kabuto, Sasuke had Lord Itachi's eye which had Tsukuyomi power, and still couldn't used it.

 

[Holy God]

But it is shown that you could use the powers of an MS which you implanted. Against Kabuto, Sasuke had Lord Itachi's eye which had Tsukuyomi power, and still couldn't used it.

Yes, but there is a clear difference. For instance:

Madara takes Obito's eyes. The eyes stays the same, therefore they keeps the original abilities of the awakener and Madara can use Kamui.

Sasuke takes Itachi's eyes. The eyes transform into the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, therefore resonating with Sasuke and swapping Itachi's abilities with Sasuke's previous ones.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Yes, but there is a clear difference. For instance:

Madara takes Obito's eyes. The eyes stays the same, therefore they keeps the original abilities of the awakener and Madara can use Kamui.

Sasuke takes Itachi's eyes. The eyes transform into the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, therefore resonating with Sasuke and swapping Itachi's abilities with Sasuke's previous ones.

But he was able to use Amaterasu. Those eye pattern chance only shows that eyes are syncing with the new owner. There is nothing suggests that eyes are simply losing their previous powers.

 

[Holy God]

But he was able to use Amaterasu. Those eye pattern chance only shows that eyes are syncing with the new owner. There is nothing suggests that eyes are simply losing their previous powers.

Amaterasu is his own technique, however, so that makes perfect sense. Itachi's eyes are basically becoming Sasuke's. Since they are compatible, I'm going to assume the special chakra Tobirama mentioned seeks into the new eyes and transforms them as if they were his own original ones. Therefore, he retains his former abilities and loses Itachi's.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Amaterasu is his own technique, however, so that makes perfect sense. Itachi's eyes are basically becoming Sasuke's. Since they are compatible, I'm going to assume the special chakra Tobirama mentioned seeks into the new eyes and transforms them as if they were his own original ones. Therefore, he retains his former abilities and loses Itachi's.

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Sasuke isn't deleting Lord Itachi's powers, he is absorbing them. But even then the lack of Tsukuyomi,Yata and Totsuka shows us that Sasuke can't bring out full potential of that eyes.

 

[New Dawn]

And yet trolls claim Mu > Itachi. LOL!

 

[Holy God]

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Sasuke isn't deleting Lord Itachi's powers, he is absorbing them. But even then the lack of Tsukuyomi,Yata and Totsuka shows us that Sasuke can't bring out full potential of that eyes.

I doubt it. It's all subjective though. There's no proof for either side. It wouldn't make sense for Sasuke to be crippled like that. The situations are completely different, being siblings, so I'm going to keep assuming that Kishimoto kept it that way for a reason.

 

[DHOH]

I can't believe all the hate on Sasuke... He can't use Tsukuyomi because he doesn't have it. Itachi eyes did not grant Sasuke with any powers, only chakra.. If what y'all state is true then Sasuke would also have totuska and Yatta.. Databook states that they are equipped with Susanoo.. Meaning they are a part of Itachi's Susanoo, not that he found them like Orochimaru claim.

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Why would he need shitty eyes? Show me feats putting Itachis genjutsu > Sasukes genjutsu.

Oh, and no hype, actual feats. Good luck

 

[shelke]

Yes and no:

1: That is not how EMS works. You need two MS pairs to unlock one EMS pair. We have known this since the statue showing four sockets to represent EMS. The 3T shown were symbolic, as every MS pattern is different.

2: Kakashi's use of Kamui was quite poor compared to Obito. He could only warp slightly faster than the speed Obito could throw stakes out. His warping speed - bar Kurama's chakra instances - doesn't match Obito's. Not even close.

3: Danzo's KA use was ****ing laughable. So laughable that I cannot stress it enough. His use of KA was monumentally - and I mean monumentally - worse than 3T Genjutsu instances shown by both Sasuke and Itachi, given that two people are required to break it, and Danzo's KA was broken with mere interruption.

It was only in the hands of Itachi - a full blooded Uchiha - that we saw how it would normally work.

4: Tsukuyomi is most certainly something Itachi himself created. It's unique to him, just like Flame Manipulation is unique to Sasuke. Itachi on'y planted Trap Amaterasu, he didn't give him any abilities. Both of them unlocked the same abilities - more or less - because they are genetically related.

There is just no other explanation for this.

That's my two cents. Unless the thread was just for fun ...

 

[lndra]

This thread :|

 

[WalksInShadows]

Itachi's eyes transformed into sasuke's creating EMS, that is why sasuke doesn't have itachi's powers but his own MS powers. The only benefit he got was the strong chakra of itachi's sharingan

if you want to call it strong. Even with Itachi's chakra, Sasuke was literally said to be as worth noticing as gravel.

I can't believe all the hate on Sasuke... He can't use Tsukuyomi because he doesn't have it. Itachi eyes did not grant Sasuke with any powers, only chakra.. If what y'all state is true then Sasuke would also have totuska and Yatta.. Databook states that they are equipped with Susanoo.. Meaning they are a part of Itachi's Susanoo, not that he found them like Orochimaru claim.

an avatar being mentioned as being equipped with the sword and mirror isn't the same as those items being mentioned as a part of said avatar. I think you misread/misinterpreted that.

 

[Stormblast]

Sasuke simply doesn't have the genjutsu skills to cast tsukuyomi, like danzo said

He simply doesn't have the the skills period to use Itachi's godlike eyes.

 

[Zawerni]

I'm surprised Sasuke hasn't had any health problems after transplanting Foddertachi's diseased eyes into his head. :snick: