Sakura Novel is Canon
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I am not calling it filler.Just saying its not 100% canon Lol Both dont mean the same thing
Lol going into details.He simply said he tried to make the movie as much connected to the manga as he possibly could.That implies its not 100% canon.When I say I tried to do something as much as possible it means I tried my best.That doesnt mean its entirely correct
I dont have sleep problems.I sleep for a healthy 7 hours.Thanks for the tip anyway
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That is not enough to consider it canon, since it is not written by Kishi.
But it is not filler either, since it is supported by him and connects to the original story. Part 3 should make it clear, the children's medical facility is probably 1 of many details in this novel that may or may not feature in Naruto Gaiden, if we do see consistency, then we can consider it as part of the story. Although the definition of "canon" is up to the reader's discretion at the end of the day, most people like myself cannot consider something completely canon if it is not done by the Mangaka himself.
But it is not filler either, since it is supported by him and connects to the original story. Part 3 should make it clear, the children's medical facility is probably 1 of many details in this novel that may or may not feature in Naruto Gaiden, if we do see consistency, then we can consider it as part of the story. Although the definition of "canon" is up to the reader's discretion at the end of the day, most people like myself cannot consider something completely canon if it is not done by the Mangaka himself.
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Talk to me when Kishi states this himself.
Did he try to do the same with the novels?
You must get nightmares knowing the fact that you can't confirm these novels are canon.
These arguements would never happen if people just accepted these novels were not canon till Kishi approves it. All I see are people trying to be Kishimotto. Thinking there opinions actually matters to anyone.
He already did when he said this movie is canon as much as he possibly could manage
Meaning of as much as possible="To a feasible/able to be accomplished extent"
Also If it was entirely connected than he would never say there is no need to read the manga.
And where did you get this idea I am trying to prove these novels are canon/semicanon.I havent called them canon or semi canon in any of my posts and if I have I take it back (show my post where I called em canon/semicanon first)
No.Thankfully I fall asleep within a few minutes of hitting the sack.I dont think about Naruto while sleeping.Currently all I think about is when my video card will be delivered via Amazon to me and I can start kicking some ass fragging
Damn ATS is slow as heck
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Natsu Shazneel
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You are trying to read between the lines to make it fit in your mold of thinking. You have done this countless times before and each time I never really bought into it. Lets just agree to disagree about this.
You claimed you would consider these novels semi canon if any part of it is mentioned in part 3. Also you brought in the Last when this thread was about the novels.
One has to wonder why you resorted to such petty tricks?
Wow you have a life outside of this base? This is shocking. LolNo.Thankfully I fall asleep within a few minutes of hitting the sack.I dont think about Naruto while sleeping.Currently all I think about is when my video card will be delivered via Amazon to me and I can start kicking some ass fragging
You are trying to put words in my mouth stating its filler when I never said so.I am just saying its a canon movie but it does have stuff in it which contradicts the manga and I am simply correlating that with his message.Its not that hard nor is it looking to deep in it
Naruto using even the regular clones when he sucked in the manga later on,he not using RSM are just 2 of the lesser ones.I dont even recall a series where the MC AFTER he unlocks a more powerful form uses a less powerful one against a future villain who is a Moon Buster threatening the planet and despite getting his ass kicked at one point,still doesnt use the more powerful form Lol and gets trapped/cant get out of genjutsu despite being perfect jin
An possible example of a 100% canon movie is the Bolt movie of which Kishimoto is the lead director and writing the script
Besides deep down everyone knows in reality its just a filler approved canon Lol The plot is a classic Pierott one.Not of the type Kishi makes
Keyword: "If" .That does not mean I am trying to prove its canon based on current state
Also if it happens it implies these authors had a headsup on what happened ahead..If many new aspects of this novel are replicated in Part 3,it cant be a coincidence
You claimed anything Kishimoto writes is canon.I corrected you bringing in The Last thats something not written by him is also canon
I am offline for a good 9-10 hrs when I have shit to do.And I am on my iPad on the move when I access the site.But yeah as of this month till April end I am probably going to game and be online at the same time.
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The manga itself has a bunch of counterdictary stuff. So this is not suprising.
Kishi already explained that the movie was under development for a long while. Hence why his strongest version was not displayed in this movie.
Thats quiet funny. Because you are willing to twist Kishi's words when he says it. Yet when he is a lead director of the movie you are willing to accept it is 100 percent canon?
Weren't you saying earlier that you were not trying to call it a filler? Lol
You are trying to claim it will be semi canon if Kishi shows any part of the novel in part 3. I mean this from your word of the mouth. Not Kishi's or anyone officially affilated with him.
Even if it goes down like that. It will be based on pure assumption and not official word from the officials. Unless a official word comes out this will all be speculation at its very best.
You brought it in claiming it is semi canon. Meaning you were trying to say not everything about is canon.
Sounds like you got a plan.
Yeah except Kishimoto himself never came out openly giving a message saying so on it and he wrote them himself.We will just have to agree to disagree on this
nope.He didn't say that.Its just a deduction we make as its been in production since 2012
There is no word out yet on whether the movie is canon although 99% chances are it is
The Bolt movie script and the story is being written by Kishimoto similar to the manga.Unlike the Last where he was not the lead director hence he came out with his message stating its possible for some aspects to be overlooked and not connected to the original storyline
This time I expect his judgement to be different.Probably something like the first next gen movie which continues beyond 700 with no reservations
lol you didn't get what I said.Its a canon movie I know but the soul of the movie it's actually a filler approved as canon
Sure it's your call.I don't like coincidences.If most of the parts of the novel are shown to me in Part 3 For me it's semi canon as it was done on purpose.If nothing or very less parts are shown and as of now it's not canon
That's your call.I don't mean on using the novels in arguments anyway as I know its my opinion..It just says that if the novels and the actual story are so coordinated there has to be a reason for it
What does that have to do with it.You said what Kishi writes is canon.the canonical aspects of the movie are not written by Kishimoto yet they are canon.And to me The Last overall is canon just not on the same level as the source material which is the manga
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Because those two chibi things that he summoned were successfull clones of him right? Then I guess to you even the "corpses" were real successfull clones too, right? Because hey, at least they were look like him so technicaly they are clones.
Also, he could transform into a hot chick with the the same technique which he always failed and couldn't even transform into an old man even when he took it deadly serious. So with that the entire Sexy No Jutsu is a contradiction too, specialy that he never touched any woman before.
Naruto crushed the Third Raikage with his Sage Mode instead of Kyubi Chakra Mode. Also, in the end Naruto defeated Pain without his newly obtained Sage Mode too.
Also, it is the same as DBZ where SSJ2 has been forgotten.
Do I even mention that in The Last Naruto could fly in KCM too?
Because Kurama was fightning againts the Otsutsuki Statue that Toneri Summoned and without Kurama he can't do "that" technique?
Yagura, the 4th Mizukage and the PERFECT Jinchuuriki couldn't get out from a genjutsu neither despite being the perfect Jinchuuriki.
They gave the script to Kishimoto to overwritte where he wants or wishes. The Red Scarf was also his idea and not Pierrot's.
Also, after Part 2 every fight became DBZ style, so no different.
No, everything that the creator confirms as canon are canon. For example, most of One Piece movies are not canon BUT there are some that Oda confirmed as canon.
Naruto at the beginning of the seires in the manga sucked real hard at clones,even the basic ones No denying it.Not to mention that bullies filler was the first time I saw it apart from the anime.
Anyways thats just one of the many others
lol thats supposed to be a joke.Why are you applying logic to jokes Lol
Because there was only a specific way to beat him which involved his attack hitting himself which needed him to have the pinpoint accurate sensing of sage mode.
Note he did use KCM against him first but the brute force startegy wasnt working
lol Deva Path was completely softened up by Kurama.The version which Naruto beat was already pushed beyond its limits.And he used the Rasenshuriken in SM to use up the 5 second timer as a resulf of which he was able to defeta him in normal mode in the first place.It was all a tactical manouver
In DBZ,the succeeding villains which keep appearing require the latest from of SSJ to be used so of course its forgotten although it was used against Majinn Buu and General Rildo in GT
And that compensates him for not using RSM?
And how did he come outside of him in the first place?It was never told that they could effortlessly come out and come in as he pleases
only reference i can think of for kurama being able to go outside of Naruto like that, would be how Menma from Road to Ninja was able to let his Kurama out IIRC
We are using the DB there as to the "perfect jin" part not the manga but yeah he got caught in it.Yes a plothole
He did not write the script .Why do you keep repeating the same thing I already did above?
What does this have to do with anything Lol
sigh,and you werent following the argument we were having when he said its canon as much as possible.I am afraid I cant reboot everything again
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