KidGamer65
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Lol, this clown stays crying about somebody's internet friends. Shit's getting old buddy.
This whole part of your post was a waste because:
1. I never said that Naruto doesn't get stronger with Sage Mode.
2. I never disputed that he can make larger Bijuu Dama, but that's completely irrelevant to this discussion.
3. This still doesn't prove your point.
Except you didn't. You are ignoring the obvious fact that Full Kurama's head is much larger than Half Kurama's due to Half Kurama being much smaller, so whether or not their Bijuu Dama appear to be the same size in relation to their heads is irrelevant, because one head is much larger than the other head. Same reason why v2 Juubi's Bijuu Dama is only near the size of it's head Understand that before you reply again.
They are all on par, hence the equal sized explosions. It exploding a different way doesn't change the size. We already saw how large Hachibi's standard Bijuu Dama was compared to it's
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. Due to the shape of the explosion, we can only see part of it, but not the whole thing. Make a sphere and it'd probably expand to be the same size. If I go with your "explosion expand" argument, I'll still arrive at the same conclusion since the explosion for a ball that large is the regular ones we saw from Bijuu 2-8. Senjutsu would make the Bijuu Dama stronger than the rest, but there's zero proof from you that it's stronger than a Bijuu Dama much larger than it. At best they are equal. There is literally no manga scan that proves this point of yours. None whatsoever.
1. Kurama's Bijuu Dama is
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after it's been fired, but not quite.2. BSM Naruto's is near the same size as his head.
3.
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between Kurama and BSM/BM Naruto. Meaning instead of being the same relative size, Kurama's is larger. Same reason why V2 Juubi's Bijuu Dama is near the same size as it's head, but due to the size difference, it's as large as a regular Bijuu. I cannot break it down any simpler than this. Wow...not even sure if serious.
The whiskey bottle would take more damage if it had a foundation behind it, not if it was out in the open. Same exact reason why it's easier to smash an apple if you hit it with a hammer while it's on the ground and not in the air. Same reason why one can karate chop wooden planks on the ground easier than they can chop wooden planks in the middle of the air. The force causes it to move backwards, which causes it to take on less of the force on itself, thus it takes less damage. Did you pull this example out of your ass? Cause it makes no sense.
"Standing still" isn't going to make the bottle take more damage. Shit makes no sense. If someone punches you square in the stomach and you don't move, you take all of that force onto your body. If someone punches you in the stomach, but as they punch you, you move backwards and go with the flow of their punch, it hurts less.
Then there's the fact that this whiskey bottle scenario of yours doesn't even begin to replicate a scenario where a person is wearing armor, though I only expected dishonest comparisons from you since there is no honest comparison that'd prove your point.
Then there's the fact that this shitty example only works if we assume that the thing being used to protect you isn't already strong enough to take the incoming attack. Go take a damn apple, hit it mid air with a hammer and then hit it on the ground and see which does more damage. Lol. Physics pal. Learn it.
Considering Full Kurama's was shown to be larger than Naruto's, yes, it's stronger.
We know this pal. Stop repeating acknowledged information. The size difference between both Bijuu Dama means that you can't automatically say "Haha, Senjutsu" and expect to make sense. If we were comparing the same size Bijuu Dama then you'd have a point, but we aren't, despite your attempts to ignore manga fact.
It's not. Full Kurama's is larger.
Addressed.
Addressed.
You don't seem to comprehend the Manga.
We already know this.
Lol, I literally explained why this logic doesn't work. When you can prove that the Bijuu Dama we are comparing are the same size, then we can talk about this shit. Until then, Senjutsu Bijuu Dama>Bijuu Dama doesn't work when the Bijuu Dama are completely different sizes and scales.
Lol, so now I have another quote to add onto the list of your retarded claims.
Lol, you can't even begin to explain to me why these scans are valid....probably cause you already know they aren't. Mokuryu can wrap around
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, thus BM Naruto is smaller. That's common sense.Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. The fact that anyone would begin to argue that the Jin of Half Kurama's BM is as large as Full Kurama is ridiculous anyway.
Bunta is sitting on Kurama's neck and part of it's torso. If they were really the same size, you wouldn't be able to see as much of his body as you think you'd be able to see.
There is no manga scan that proves that Half Kurama is as large as Full Kurama. None whatsoever. He lost his Yin Half and decreased in size. He never got that back, so there is no reason to believe he increased in size. Half Kurama is shown to be just as large as the other Bijuu after Naruto and Sasuke save them after defeating Kaguya, so unless you are telling me the panel of Kurama shrinking was for shits and giggles, Full Kurama is larger than Half Kurama, who
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It being Pure Chakra doesn't matter. 50% Kurama is the Kurama Avatar but in chakra form, so why would it be as large as his original self? Makes no sense.
What in the world......?
1. Mokuryu is not as large as Mokujin. It only wraps around it's torso and it's arm I believe. Then there's the fact that this is a SM Mokuryu on a SM Mokujin. So how in the world are you even comparing it to BM Naruto when BM Naruto has never come in contact with a Mokuryu enhanced by Senjutsu.
2. SM Mokujin and Madara's Perfect Susanoo dwarf Bijuu. They are not the same size as the Kurama Avatar and the rest of the Bijuu. That's just nonsense.
A.
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Those are Bijuu Sized Juublings that PS and Mokujin are stepping all over. Proof? By chapter 634, the Juublings, which were already increasing in size at a steady rate, were
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the same as as Gamakichi, Aoda, and Katsuyu. Those 3 are boss summon sized, thus they are the same relative size as the Bijuu. Then there's the fact that the Juubi's
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is near Bijuu Sized, and Myojinmon covered the head, so it's just as large as it.But regardless, you can clearly see the Myojinmon Gates in comparison to the Bijuu Sized Boss Summons. Myojinmon dwarfs them all. And
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Sooo....PS>Mokujin>>>>Myojinmon>>>Bijuu=Kurama Avatar in size.
1. They are not close in size.
2. Their Bijuu Dama are not close in size.
And I've explained why people say that BS. Repeating it isn't a counter argument. It only shows your ignorance towards the subject as a whole.
1. I never brought up Kurama's full power.
2. Kurama's full power isn't relevant when we are comparing two specific Bijuu Dama.
Lol.
Addressed above.
It lost it's chakra, chakra it never got back, and that's why it shrunk. It never got back said chakra, so it did not return to full size.
It's not.
When Naruto shows that he can do more then we can talk.
If only you could explain to me what the point of this was. To explain why Naruto can make larger Bijuu Dama? News flash buddy. I already know this. So I have no idea who this was targeted towards.
Nice strawman.
Let me explain to you why your analogy makes no sense.
1. Your analogy assumes that both objects are unable to survive said fall, which is not the case here.
2. Your analogy became shit garbage the moment you said that wrapping a rock in Iron blankets would stop anything from being broken during the fall. Learn how armor works before we continue cause this is actually pretty damn embarrassing. If the rock is in the Iron blankets, and the Iron blanks aren't strong enough to sustain the force of the fall, they'd shatter after absorbing all the force it can. If the leftover force is too much for the rock, it shatters along with it, and the force of the fall is too much for either object, so covering the rock with the blankets won't stop the Iron blanket from being shattered on impact.
Covering a rock with an iron blanket doesn't form a new solid object. Lol. Did you fail Physics in school? Jesus Christ. You only end up with a rock being protected by the iron blanket. The iron blanket won't get stronger because of what's under it. Same principle with Susanoo.
I like how you consistently take the shittiest examples to prove your point. If you layer yourself with a bunch of jackets, which I'll just call your armor from here on out, then yes, you'd take less damage from the punch than you would before because the armor softened the blow even though it might not be able to completely absorb it. If you were to take the hit with no layers on, you'd take more damage since there is nothing to absorb the blow, and the jackets are completely irrelevant since you wouldn't even be wearing them, though the impact the jackets suffer isn't going to increase when it's empty, it'll decrease since the jackets will move with the flow of the hit.
Is this what you do when you can't counter" Nothing you sated is backed by anything?. Lmao, gtfo with the BS.
I've explained why it's irrelevant. A solid armor's durability isn't going to increase based on who's wearing it. Shit is retarded. The only thing that'll change is the amount of damage that the person wearing the armor would take in the event that the armor itself isn't strong enough to completely absorb the force of the attack. Go back to school and pay attention in class this time so you don't make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
Lol, Kurama tanking SS punches? If you could properly comprehend anything I said in that part of my post, you wouldn't be asking me this question. Kurama was under PS, PS absorbed ALL the damage from SS's punches and was destroyed in the process, leaving Kurama unharmed.
They were never the same.
Never did. Not to mention if I did, offensive feats are something I can share since Naruto has Kurama and Sasuke has PS, albeit weaker...but why do I even bother? You'll just whine and moan about how I'm contradicting myself.
I said that when it comes to the defense, it's different because they are both chakra, meaning they both merge together.
Lol. Read above. I've literally explained this. Replying with "hurr same techinque" doesn't change the fact that the components of each combination are different. Chakra Avatar=/=Flesh Kurama when it comes to bodily composition. Do I have to explain why that is the case? Lol.
I'm starting to think that you somehow, for some reason, feel threatened by what others think of someone on the internet, because every time you argue with me you cry and moan and complain about me "showing out for my internet buddies" and all that corny bullshit. Lol, pathetic. Literally nobody here cares about that shit except for you, considering you are quick to complain about it every, single, trip.
Not really. That is simple math right there, but I guess you did poorly in that too. Lol.
2=2
x4
8=8.
Sasuke's PS Chidori and Naruto's Bijuu Dama and Sasuke's PS and Naruto's Avatar are dead equal in durability after they both got the SAME POWER BOOST. So take away that power boost and that equality is maintained.
Nope. Never said that. Nor is that even relevant. Comparison is to show that PS Chidori=Regular Bijuu Dama, and that it takes something 2x the strength of a regular Bijuu Dama to do to PS what we saw.
Nope. Never said that either. I said if he could, it'd equal a Bijuu Dama. That's why I threw in the word "hypothetical", but you probably failed Reading Comp along with Physics and Math. Jesus man...you have to do better than this.
Though I see you are still whining about Sasuke's imaginary PS, even though many people have shat on the circus clowns that have gone around spreading that shit.
Except whether or not he powers it up is irrelevant when the comparison is only between a standard Bijuu Dama, and a PS Chidori.
Lol, what the hell? Do you even realize how little sense you make here? I don't need to know the ratio of shit to determine anything.
We saw that Naruto used a regular sized Bijuu Dama to match a PS Chidori, so take away Hagoromo's power and you are left with a standard sized bijuu dama from BM Naruto vs. a PS Chidori from EMS Sasuke, even though he can't use it. Explain to me why I'd need to know any kind of ratio to validate this claim. All we need to know is the size of the BD Naruto used, which has been established, and the fact that it equaled a PS Chidori has been established, meaning that explosion was 2x the strength of a regular Bijuu Dama enhanced by Hagoromo's power, and it did that much damage to their Avatars enhanced by Hagoromo's power. Take away his power and it all downscales just like fractions do in proportions.
Lol, you are one pathetic individual.
Nope. Cause he's not even using Sage Mode. Sage Mode=/=Ten Tails Coffin Seal. Then there's the fact that I've already proven that it's impossible. Quad Juubidama is FACTUALLY, not an opinionated statement, MUCH stronger than the attacks that damaged the Gudo Dama. So unless you are start addressing that fact, I'll just have to accept that you can't counter.
It's ironic though. You moan about me ignoring shit, but the only reason this part of the debate is still going on is because you keep ignoring evidence.
Irrelevant. They are both solid. There is nothing special about either one's composition that'd change my argument.
We already know this, but considering there's a specific Bijuu Dama we are talking about, it's not relevant.
Addressed.
Thin shield? Lmao. I should've expected a weak ass argument like that.
1. You can
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see Obito using his available Gudo Dama to form that shield.2. That shield was larger than the shield he used for the Juubidama.
3. "Thin shield" is nothing but a useless comment from you considering there is no difference between that shield and this shield but the shape.
4. Considering the minuscule ass difference between the two shields, you'd have to argue that Naruto's Bijuu Dama is close to the power of the Juubidama if you want to make excuses on why one was tanked and the other wasn't. Focus is completely irrelevant when the gap between these two attacks is so large.
It's not. I've already shown that it isn't.
I'm right because of the Manga shows I'm right. It's really that simple.
If acting like a clown is what you call amusing yourself...
Small in comparison to Full Kurama's.
Lol, addressed.
We know this, but since the two BD in question aren't the same size, this is irrelevant.
By arguing that Naruto's BD is strongest because "lol Senjutsu" despite the size difference, that is exactly what you are arguing.
Yeah, we know this pal, but considering we are comparing two...where Naruto's is smaller, saying he can add more chakra is completely irrelevant. If he had used more chakra in his BD then it'd be larger than Full Kurama's. The more chakra you add the bigger it'll get.
Lol it's amazing how one can read the Manga, but twist it so it appears to prove them correct. Naruto fired off 5, AND THEN the Juubi fired it's laser. Meaning the most he can fire is 5 at a time. If he could fire more than 5 at a time, then he would've fired more. It's really that simple. He wasn't even in the process of attack. Continuous Bijuu Dama is releasing multiple Bijuu Dama at once. If he was in the process of attack, you'd see him attempting to attack. All you saw was:
1. Kurama and Gyuki attack.
2. Juubi charges up laser.
3. They evade.
Nope. Everything I stated was a fact.
Addressed above.
"This Jutsu is Kyuubi armored in Susnaoo". That goes all the way back to your shitty ass, incorrect, armor is armor+body under the armor when it comes to defense. It says it combines the defense of Susanoo and the attack of the Kyuubi. "Absolute defense=Susanoo" btw since it's clear you wouldn't have figured that out yourself. The general idea behind this point has been addressed anyway.
Except nobody has ever proved anything. Ever.
The only thing to laugh at is how butthurt you are when it comes to my "lapdogs". Lol, I'll reply till you stop replying, or till you finally admit that you have no idea what you are talking about. That simple.
