Why JJ madara > Hagoromo.

[rinnegan human puppet]

waiting for someone to counter with actual manga facts.


kaguya/juubi is the strongest entity in NV, theres a manga scan above of hagoromo saying how madara was close to kaguya's power. so he basically said himself that he was weaker than madara.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

And how is Madara going to beat Hagoromo without the Seals genius?

Decapitation.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

waiting for someone to counter with actual manga facts.


kaguya/juubi is the strongest entity in NV, theres a manga scan above of hagoromo saying how madara was close to kaguya's power. so he basically said himself that he was weaker than madara.

Alright, here it is. Madara + Juubi > Hagoromo without juubi. Hagoromo had the Juubi too though. So he's stronger.

PS, as a Representative of BlackZetsuBase, i request that you change your status.

 

[davidou]

waiting for someone to counter with actual manga facts.


kaguya/juubi is the strongest entity in NV, theres a manga scan above of hagoromo saying how madara was close to kaguya's power. so he basically said himself that he was weaker than madara.

You don't know how strong is prime Hagoromo, and you compare him to Madara , that's pointless.

The manga fact is that you don't know.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

You don't know how strong is prime Hagoromo, and you compare him to Madara , that's pointless.

The manga fact is that you don't know.

we know for a fact that a non juubi jin hago is weaker to a juubi jin madara.

prime idk.

 

[davidou]

we know for a fact that a non juubi jin hago is weaker to a juubi jin madara.

prime idk.

lol , you are making a thread to say that Madara has been , during one day , just before dying , stronger than a weak version of Hagoromo (version that you don't know what he can do) , pointless and wrong.


Prime Iruka is a hundred times stronger than Madara , I'm talking about Madara when he was one month old , prime idk.
So , Iruka>Madara.

That's your logic.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hagoromo w/o Juubi said One Eyed Madara was approaching his power. Thus once Madara got the other eye and shinju, he'd be on par with Hagoromo w/o Juubi. JJ Hagoromo one shots Madara.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Hagoromo w/o Juubi said One Eyed Madara was approaching his power. Thus once Madara got the other eye and shinju, he'd be on par with Hagoromo w/o Juubi. JJ Hagoromo one shots Madara.

hagoromo said madara was close to kaguyas* power not his own, and kaguyas power is far beyond his own.

maybe you should calm down and stop cussin me out when you neg rep me son lmaooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

 

[KidGamer65]

hagoromo said madara was close to kaguyas* power not his own, and kaguyas power is far beyond his own.

maybe you should calm down and stop cussin me out when you neg rep me son lmaooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Oh boy...yet Madara was stated to be weaker than Kaguya. Not to mention the scan says he's trying to get close to Kaguya's power, not that he was close. He said that he had obtained a power close to his. (Juubi)

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Oh boy...yet Madara was stated to be weaker than Kaguya. Not to mention the scan says he's trying to get close to Kaguya's power, not that he was close. He said that he had obtained a power close to his. (Juubi)

juubi = hagoromo and hamura only because of the seal

juubi > hagoromo

juubi + madara > hagoromo

juubi + madara < hagoromo + juubi.

you should know the juubi is the strongest being in NV, you do know that the juubi is kaguya right? jj madara > base hagoromo

 

[-immortal-]

hagoromo absolutly one shots

 

[KidGamer65]

juubi = hagoromo plus hamura

juubi > hagoromo

juubi + madara > hagoromo

juubi + madara < hagoromo + juubi.

Wrong. Using the Juubi back then, and this Juubi and the fight between Kaguya and her sons to powerscale isn't going to work.

-Naruto and Sasuke only got half of Hagoromo's power, and they are both stronger than Juubito individually.

-Hagoromo himself is stronger than Juubito.

If this logic was sound, we'd be coming to the conclusion that JJ Hagoromo>JJ Madara>JJ Obito>Naruto>Sasuke, even though Manga has shown that Naruto and Sasuke are both Obito, who was stated to be above the Juubi. Then there's the fact that Madara w/ the Juubi and one eye couldn't handle a portion of Naruto and Sasuke's power, so there's no way he can take out Hagoromo.

And then there's the fact that Hagoromo said Madara got a power close to his, not equal.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Wrong. Using the Juubi back then, and this Juubi and the fight between Kaguya and her sons to powerscale isn't going to work.

-Naruto and Sasuke only got half of Hagoromo's power, and they are both stronger than Juubito individually.

-Hagoromo himself is stronger than Juubito.

If this logic was sound, we'd be coming to the conclusion that JJ Hagoromo>JJ Madara>JJ Obito>Naruto>Sasuke, even though Manga has shown that Naruto and Sasuke are both Obito, who was stated to be above the Juubi. Then there's the fact that Madara w/ the Juubi and one eye couldn't handle a portion of Naruto and Sasuke's power, so there's no way he can take out Hagoromo.

And then there's the fact that Hagoromo said Madara got a power close to his, not equal.

Proof? Im pretty sure viz says close to kaguya, and if u think naruto and sasuke by themselves can take a jj u wrong.

 

[KidGamer65]

Proof? Im pretty sure viz says close to kaguya, and if u think naruto and sasuke by themselves can take a jj u wrong.

The scan is in this thread.

And yes, they can. Their fight against Madara, who is stronger than Juubito, pretty much proves that. Naruto only used 2 Gudo Dama rods, Jiton Rasengan while Sasuke only used Black Chidori, his sword, and Amenotejikara. Those are nothing compared to their full power, which is the Kurama Avatar and Perfect Susanoo, yet they were still too strong for One Eyed Shinju Madara to handle, he had to run away and get his other eye.

Not to mention Naruto and Sasuke are half of Hagoromo's power each. If Madara w/ Juubi couldn't handle the two halves of Hagoromo, who didn't even use their full power, then there's no way he can handle Hagoromo, meaning "Madara w/ Juubi" is not stronger than Hagoromo.

 

[V h o]

Let me get this straight, RM Naruto and rinnegan Sasuke were manhandling Madara to where he fled with Hagoromo's chakra. Yet hagoromo himself is weaker than Madara....interesting :skorm:

 

[Megax Rocker7]

please...

Hagoromo doesn't only have the bijuu he also possess the rikudo senjutsu that upgraded naruto and sasuke's abilities beyond their limits.

for example with that senjutsu naruto was able to get a stronger form than a JJ because he has better reflexes and speed and sasuke getting a stronger rinnegan with exclusive abilities.


Naruto who has half of hagoromo's senjutsu was able to stand his own against madara and his limbo clones without using his kurama avatar or his RS and Sasuke who also has half of that chakra raped madara

so basically no.

 

[HiddenSound]

When given mere pieces of Hagoromo's power, Naruto and Sasuke started stomping Madara.
But somehow Madara can fight the real thing and win? Okay.

 

[BLAZE]

Says Madara was on Hagoromo's lvl

Reality: Madara was getting butt slapped by both Naruto and sasuke ono on one [who just recieved half of hagormo's power]

 

[TrollingSage]

Am yet to see a scan that says Hagoromo needed Hamura OP. The fact that Hamura helped doesn't mean Hagoromo couldn't do it without him

 

[Anime Godd]

Your conclusion is correct but your structure is wrong. The truth is, both Hagoromo and Madara are equivalent as both possess the Six Paths. What puts Madara above is, that he is more experienced and intelligent.

Did you really just say Madara is more experienced and more intelligent then the Sage of the six paths slap your self cause your pulling shit out of your ass