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Neither was annihilated and judging by the impact on the ground that Kishi drew, it was likely the avatars that made that.
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1. The third panel shows them destroyed and fading away. Same effect as when Kaguya destroyed Sasuke's Susanoo both times.
2. The impact made isn't even as large as their Avatars, so there's no way that they caused them.
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Well regardless, that wasn't even my point. He said they were annihilated by the explosion. You can clearly see them falling with their avatars out of the explosion. I'll concede on the second point, but the first still stands.
How is regular PS greater then TSB? Where was it stated or shown to be comparable? When TSB tanked 4 TBB from Juubi no diff but PS and SM Golem got wiped from the planet no diff if we really want to compare.
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The Truth Seeking Balls don't tank they negate. They didn't tank the Juubi TBB they negated them.
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It negated a Juubi Dana..it didn't tank it. Naruto's small Senjutsu BD put a hole in the Gudo Dama. It can't do that to PS.
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to be brutally honest you are biggest fanboy I have ever seen nobody is tanking explosion from Huge Juubi TBB (version 3) and Sasanoo was destroyed by explosion not by direct hit.
And again, to compare they have to be the same in aspect which they are not, so why are you somparing it to PS when PS has not tanked/negated anything the TSB has to be comparable. You keep saying PS can do this but lack any proof of it doing what TSB could do.
And are you talking about when Sasuke and Naruto went against Juubito when he lost focused and allowed them to breach his defense for his blow? If so that is a horrible example, and again PS has not been put through the exact same scene to be compared.
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1. Gudo Dama negates Ninjutsu. So if Ninjutsu hits it, it won't work. That was shown when the Ninjutsu, Juubi Dama, failed to scratch it.
2. If it gets hit by Senjutsu it works just like any other shield.
So unless there is some other hidden, unknown function that'd change that fact, there is no reason why they can't be compared when Gudo Dama's negation ability becomes a non factor.
Gudo Dama failed to tank a Bijuu Dama when it had nothing but it's defensive properties to rely on. PS tanked it. Meaning PS is more durable. It's really that simple.
Proof has been shown many many many times.
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If Gudo Dama was anywhere near as durable as Madara's PS let alone Rinnegan Sasuke's PS, it would've taken that attack with no damage.
Bold is an weak argument for obvious reasons. A shield is a shield. Meaning one shield is stronger than the other shield, and in this case, Gudo Dama is not a better shield than PS unless we are talking about Ninjutsu.
Can't reply long since on phone and busy; isn't the power of obito all senjutsu enhanced? So him (tsb) tanking senjutsu/god tree/juubi(aka infinite nature energy) or negating it break even since his tsb and his Jutsu are both senjutsu? Unless the manga states his power is no longer senjutsu we shouldn't assume correct?
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It should...but for some reason it isn't...unless you want to argue that a Giant Rasengan and a Bijuu Dama are stronger than 4 Juubidama considering the former attacks did damage while the latter did none.
What makes you think the Senjutsu and Senjutsu TBB wouldn't also Obliterate PS? There lies the flaw in your logic. For me to answer your question you would first give any valid evidense that Base PS would Survive. Then we can go to phase two if you show manga proof that is.
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Lol, what? I don't even know why I should have to explain why a small, singular Senjutsu Bijuu Dama isn't destroying PS....
1. PS tanked
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. 2. That is stronger than the Bijuu Dama Naruto used on Obito hence the larger explosion, and the fact that the ball itself is larger.
3. Then there's the fact it took
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to destroy PS, and that is >>>> Full Kurama's Standard Bijuu Dama>Bijuu Dama that BSM Naruto used against Obito.4. So PS easily tanks that Bijuu Dama, meaning Gudo Dama's defensive capabilities are nowhere near that of Madara's PS since it failed to tank an attack weaker than what Madara took, let alone Sasuke's PS, which is tiers above Madara's PS after getting Hagoromo's power.
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This is getting pretty ridiculous even for you.
1. If you think that being a Jinchuuriki automatically makes Naruto's Bijuu Dama stronger than any Bijuu Dama the Full Kyuubi can form then I suggest you prove it. "Senju Perfect Host Power" isn't an argument.
2. If you think that Senjutsu is automatically going to make that Bijuu Dama stronger than the one PS canonically tanked then I suggest you actually prove it. The ball is larger, and the explosion is much larger. There is literally no comparison here.
3. PS tanked a Bijuu Dama larger than the one you are trying to argue will destroy Perfect Susanoo (which is an absolutely nonsensical claim in itself), on it own. Kyuubi as an extra standstill? Lol, do you even know what you are talking about here? Cause it sounds like you are trying to make excuses. PS armored Kyuubi, and PS took no damage, thus Bijuu Dama can't harm PS. Kyuubi has jack to do with anything as it's under the Susanoo.
Wrong. Different types of explosive attacks. You can judge C1, 2, 3, and 0 by explosion size because they are all the same type of explosion from the same type of material. Just like you can judge Bijuu Dama's explosion by size as long as you only compare it to another Bijuu Dama. The only factor there is size of the ball, and size of the explosion.
That means that they have the potential to use stronger attacks than the Bijuu alone, that isn't going to make BSM Naruto's small Bijuu Dama, stronger than Full Kurama's Bijuu Dama when the ball itself is smaller and the explosion is smaller.
Garbage logic. Senjutsu anything is on a higher level than anything without if we are talking about the same attack at the same power level. I guess
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because one has Senjutsu and the other one doesn't if we go by your logic? I guess Senjutsu FRS>Normal BIju Dama because "Senjutsu anything is simply on a higher level than anything without".Smh.
Lmao. It's wayyy too early for this nonsense.
1. Full Kurama is larger than BSM Naruto (Half Kurama) by at least 2x. So if they both make a standard sized Bijuu Dama, Full Kurama's is going to be larger purely due to the size difference. Then there's the fact that this explosion is obviously larger than this explosion. [
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The only difference is that one is more focused. Your analogy doesn't even begin to make sense since these are two completely different types of comparisons. Damage is damage. The only thing that matters is how focused it is. That's basic physics. Different types of attack only changes how much energy is focused onto one spot.
Irrelevant as we are only comparing his standard Bijuu Dama to Naruto's standard Senjutsu Bijuu Dama.
Full Kurama's standard Bijuu Dama is larger than BM Naruto's by default due to the ridiculous size difference. And Kurama fired 12 Bijuu Dama in a barrage, more than Naruto has ever been shown to fire. Then there's the fact that Naruto's Largest Bijuu Dama is his Flash Bijuu Dama, and 50% Kurama made one that was as large as that let alone 100% Kurama.
That's exactly what it means. Empty claims like "Hurr Senjutsu hurr" are nothing but empty claims. Your Deidara point makes zero sense since we are comparing two Bijuu Dama, which are the same type of attack, not two different types of attack.
When you can logically explain to me how Kurama being under the Susanoo armor will somehow increase it's defensive power, then we can talk about the validity of Madara's feat.
Anyone who reads the Manga instead of skimming through it knows how dumb this claim is, and remains, no matter how many times someone brings it up. Iso Susanoo is PS armored onto Kyuubi. Literally nothing you said is backed by proof, or even evidence. It's ridiculous how you and the rest of the people can sit and argue this point with a straight face after ignoring all the posts that shat on this very claim.
Kurama's durability is irrelevant when it's under the Armor. The only time it becomes relevant is if an attack actually hits it. Madara's PS Kurama isn't Susanoo+Kurama when it comes to durability. PS keeps it's own durability and when you break PS, then you can actually land hits on Kurama.
That's like saying someone's armor is as strong as their body+Their armor itself. Shit makes zero sense. The only time you'd have a point is when PS and Kurama literally fuse like they did when Sasuke used Iso Susanoo, and that's literally only because they were both chakra.
I guess Sasuke's Ribcage Susanoo=Himself+Susanoo when it comes to durability. Lol, what a joke.
Then there's the fact that Sasuke's PS took the explosion of PS Chidori (equal to Bijuu Dama) and Naruto's Bijuu Dama at VoTE. Take away all Rikudo power ups and it downscales to BM Naruto and his Bijuu Dama, and EMS Sasuke's PS and it's hypothetical PS Chidori, meaning it'd take something 2x the power of a regular sized Bijuu Dama to take half of Sasuke's PS's face, arm and wing. Halve that damage and it takes little damage. Madara's PS>Sasuke's PS and the gap isn't small, so it takes no damage.
Though I fully expect you to cry about how this is baseless fanfic, probably cause:
1. You can't comprehend it, even though it's simple mathematics. Orrrr....
2. You can't counter it.
Lol, is this some kind of pathetic ass troll attempt?
1. You have zero proof that the Bijuu Dama were enhanced by any type of chakra that the Gudo Dama wouldn't be able to negate.
2. The fact that two attacks weaker (and that's a fact, not an opinion so I highly suggest you don't try and contest it) than the Quad Juubidama damaged the Gudo Dama while the Quad Juubidama failed to points to the obvious conclusion that they were not enhanced by Senjutsu.
If I used your logic, I'd come to the conclusion that:
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.I pray to God that you realize how dumb this is starting to sound. You are essentially claiming that BSM Naruto>>>Juubi when it comes to firepower. You are essentially claiming that BSM Naruto>>>Juubi's Jinchuuriki when it comes to firepower since Juubito's strongest attack didn't scratch his shield while the smallest Bijuu Dama BSM Naruto can make put a gaping hole in the same shield.
The only way you can argue this is if you decided to toss all logic in the trash, and if that's what you are going to do then I suggest you don't even waste my time. It negated Ninjutsu. That simple.
Clown ass posters these days. My whole post focuses on PS. If you are going to try and take jabs, let's not:
1. Nitpick, twist and turn what I said to make it seem like I meant something else.
2. Make terrible arguments, though as of late this seems to be the norm for you.
What I'm seeing from your post is..
Claim 1: Gudo Dama>PS when it comes to durability.
-Despite a small Senjutsu Bijuu Dama putting a hole in it.
Claim 2: Gudo Dama didn't negate the Quad Juubidama, it tanked it.
-Despite that being impossible considering weaker attacks damaged it, but since I already brought up that point and you outright ignored it, I'll just assume that you are now arguing that "BM Rasengan w/ Senjutsu>>Juubidama", "BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama>>>Juubidama", and "BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama would obliterate PS".
Claim 3: Naruto's Bijuu Dama is automatically stronger because it has Senjutsu.
-Even though that's an incomplete argument. SM Rasengan has Senjutsu. Guess it's stronger than Killer B's Bijuu Dama.
Claim 4: Naruto's Bijuu Dama is automatically stronger because he's a Jinchuuriki.
-Even though 50% Kurama has shown Bijuu Dama on par with Naruto's strongest one made on panel.
-Even though Full Kurama has used Continuous Bijuu Dama, and fired 12 while Naruto has only fired 5.
-Even though the "focus it's power" argument only works for the Juubi and it's Jinchuuriki since the Juubi lets it's power go all over the place while the Jin has the ability to focus it and make it seem much more devastating than it was w/o a Jinchuuriki.
Claim 5: Naruto's Bijuu Dama's explosion being smaller isn't proof that it's weaker because of your Deidara example.
-Even though you are obviously ignoring the fact that we are comparing Bijuu Dama vs. Bijuu Dama, thus the only way to tell how strong it is would be by explosion size, and it's valid since it's the same type of bomb, one is just more powerful/larger than the other. Deidara's clay bombs=/=Bijuu Dama.
Claim 6: PS didn't tank Bijuu Dama on it's own.
-Even though it's the armor that Kurama was wearing when the BD went off.
-Even though power scaling shows that it can tank a BD w/o any damage.
Claim 7: PS becomes as durable as it and Kurama when armored onto the latter.
-Even though that's not how armor works. Nothing more to be said here really.
Claim 8: Iso Susanoo=/=Perfect Susanoo.
-Even though the Manga has shown many times that they are the same thing, but in different forms.
-Despite a small Senjutsu Bijuu Dama putting a hole in it.
Claim 2: Gudo Dama didn't negate the Quad Juubidama, it tanked it.
-Despite that being impossible considering weaker attacks damaged it, but since I already brought up that point and you outright ignored it, I'll just assume that you are now arguing that "BM Rasengan w/ Senjutsu>>Juubidama", "BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama>>>Juubidama", and "BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama would obliterate PS".
Claim 3: Naruto's Bijuu Dama is automatically stronger because it has Senjutsu.
-Even though that's an incomplete argument. SM Rasengan has Senjutsu. Guess it's stronger than Killer B's Bijuu Dama.
Claim 4: Naruto's Bijuu Dama is automatically stronger because he's a Jinchuuriki.
-Even though 50% Kurama has shown Bijuu Dama on par with Naruto's strongest one made on panel.
-Even though Full Kurama has used Continuous Bijuu Dama, and fired 12 while Naruto has only fired 5.
-Even though the "focus it's power" argument only works for the Juubi and it's Jinchuuriki since the Juubi lets it's power go all over the place while the Jin has the ability to focus it and make it seem much more devastating than it was w/o a Jinchuuriki.
Claim 5: Naruto's Bijuu Dama's explosion being smaller isn't proof that it's weaker because of your Deidara example.
-Even though you are obviously ignoring the fact that we are comparing Bijuu Dama vs. Bijuu Dama, thus the only way to tell how strong it is would be by explosion size, and it's valid since it's the same type of bomb, one is just more powerful/larger than the other. Deidara's clay bombs=/=Bijuu Dama.
Claim 6: PS didn't tank Bijuu Dama on it's own.
-Even though it's the armor that Kurama was wearing when the BD went off.
-Even though power scaling shows that it can tank a BD w/o any damage.
Claim 7: PS becomes as durable as it and Kurama when armored onto the latter.
-Even though that's not how armor works. Nothing more to be said here really.
Claim 8: Iso Susanoo=/=Perfect Susanoo.
-Even though the Manga has shown many times that they are the same thing, but in different forms.
To make the ridiculous claims made here in your post, you'd either have to have a poor understanding of the Manga, or you'd have to be trolling. Lol.
EDIT: And by the way, I'm expecting a reply. Whether it be in the form of an attempt to counter manga fact or in the form of a concession.
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**Sigh** Not surprised you dont get it and are trying your hardest to look good for your internet friends. smh
No; Being a Perfect Jin with Sage mode makes his ability and powers naturally stronger when Naruto can choose to make what ever sized attack. And against Juubito, he used a standard sized TBB with Senjutsu.
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Why wouldn't he get stronger with Sage mode again?
The Ball isn't "larger" I literally showed you they where comparable with the one BSM used being Larger then Kurama's Head and the one EMS used being about the head size of Kurama. It's in Black and white! And again;
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Each of them standard sized TBB are all moutain ranged, same size EMS kurama used, and same size BSM Used. Yet you think they are all equal? Just because BSM TBB didnt blow up like a normal TBB normaly does doesn't mean it is "weaker" lmmfao!!!! It was clearly used on something that didn't make the
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. That is shitty logic at its finest!!! You just basically stated 2 tails TBB was stronger then BSM Kurama since it had a bigger explosion. lmmfao hahahahahahahaNo it didnt, they were both comparable with the one BSM used being slightly bigger based on manga scans. Then you are saying Kyubi with all it's density isn't going to help PS defense? Do you even know how Armors work??????
Example a 3rd grader got:
I have a Shirt on with a pocket on the chest. In the pocket is a Metal container (whisky bottle), I get shot in that area. The bullet doesn't pierce. Why? Because the whisky bottle stopped the blow with little to no damage. But wait, if the whisky bottle were to be in the open and shot on it's own it would not only get blasted back, it would also get breached to an extent! Why? Because it didnt have a solid Foundation behind it to not only make it stay in place but help brace for the impact and further it's resistance to the bullet.
But you still don't get that since it went over your head and your other kid friends head.
So BSM using a TBB is equal to non Kurama with Senjutsu TBB? Did you not read the manga? Senjutsu isn't just a word or effect they added. It is an completely different powerup that For a fact makes the user and everything about them stronger! This is non disputable!
And again the ball is smaller, and the explosion isn't comparable since BSM used it on somthing much different! Thats like saying if Regular Kurama avatar used its regular TBB it would be "stronger or powerful" since it showed to have a bigger explosion. lmmfao WHat???? Failed logic!
You don't get what it means to be in the same situation dont you???
No my son, you are simply lost and don't get what is being stated. Senjutsu on a user makes what ever the user normaly could use naturally stronger and better. FACT OF THE MANGA! Do you get it now?
Sage mode FRS>FRS, Sage mode Rasengan>Rasengan, Sage mode Odama rasegan>Odama rasenshurin etc etc. DO you get it not that i spelt it out and broke it down? So what would that mean? SEnjutsu TBB>what? I'll let you put the puzzle together.
I was waiting on this very moment!
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Wood dragon and Kurama. Correct?
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Same Kurama and Same wood dragon. Same size!
This was long proved agaes ago on this site, NF, and all over the internet! Kurama avatar is the same size as Full Kurama.
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Now you can see Kurama is not as big as you would like. He shrunk at the time of his seal true. But Avatar is pure chakra not Full Kurama, so why do you think since he has 50% he would be that small forever? Oh right, didnt look at the future manga scans that show he is just as big/even.
Again you're latching onto something i once did as well till I was proven otherwise.
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As you can see based on the manga panels, Kurama Avatar is about the same size as EMS PS and SM Wood Golem based on teh Wood dragon to compare to all 4 (Base Kurama, Kurama Avatar, EMS PS, and WGolem). So the notion that Kurama avatar is half the size is false based on manga fact no disputing!
So with teh manga fact showing the OG and avatar being close to equal in size, there TBB are also (based on manga fact) CLose in size with Avatar being bigger. SO again where are you getting that Kurama's is more powerful from????
I can literally draw it out for you if need be, but i hope you are smart enough to look at the pictures.
And again based on Physics, chemistry and basic life facts; You cannot compare punches to an explosion since they work differently and have different aspects to begin with! Simple!
Irrelevant how again? You are good at brushing things off when you have no point, especially when you are the one who brught the point up.
And again read the manga and page panels to see they are not different in sized based on manga fact! Only when Kurama was sealed was the size changed. That was ages ago! Kurama AVATAR is equal to its OG Alive form based on manga facts! You are so lost its sad. Kurama avatar has fired multiple as well but had to incorporate the plan to attack the Juubi, so whats your point? You think that was his limit??? lmmfao Nothing to base it on but baseless claims.
I'll break it down for you and the clueless ones. Kurama has 100 apples total, Naruto has 50 of them apples, It takes 2 apples to use TBB overall from Full Kurama. Naruto uses 2 apples for TBB whether he has 100% kurama or 20% kurama. And based on manga facts he can choose to power it up to add more apples (bigger). Basically (since you still don't get it), There is a reason Naruto had to power up his TBB to match 5 TBB combined instead of using his basic small TBB.
SO Senjutsu doesn't power up your overall moveset? Cool story from another book you read.
I;ll break it down for you again:
I have a Rock, I then wrap the rock with Iron Blankets Layers and layers. I drop the rock from 100 stories. Normaly the rock would shatter by itself, and normaly the iron blankets would shatter on its own. But since they are together to form a new solid Object they stay intact and do not break/Shatter from the fall altogether. Its simple logic and physics.
A solid Core makes armoring denser and sturdier. Literally teaches you that in elementary school. If I layer myself with a shit load of Jackets and get punched from a person running 40 yards away building speed I will most likely suffer less damage and barely move from the position I braced myself at. From if I had no layers and if the jackets were not fill. I would suffer major damage and be sent flying backwards, and the Jackets would be sent flying and damaged (i know jackets are not alive). Please I shouldn't have to break it down for you.
Literally nothing you stated is backed by anything. You still don't get it, I just don't like wasting time with the users like yourself on the site. I cant believe I wasted this much time already. The fact that you think PS and Kurama together doesn't equal a greater defense is mind Blowing!
How is it irrelevant??? lmmfao How? they are now one! DO you not read the manga Or are you trying to ignore the fact to prove a point like you always do? So Kurama tanked Wood Buuhda punches in your eyes and PS didnt, does that mean Kurama durability>>>PS???? that is shitty logic that you do not get.
SO now youre saying Sasuke and Naruto's Iso susanoo is not teh same as Madara and Kyubi Iso susanoo? lmmfao What? You contradict yourself since you wanna base Your "feats" off the other, yet say "its different since they were both chakra". Yet they are clearly the same tech; ISO SUSANOO! Susanoo Plus Kurama, they literally look identacle. WTF are you talking about?
You are trying to be a smart ass but clearly are lost and gasping trying to look "cool".
No, not that simply my Guy. It isn't simple as "take away all the power ups", that is the definition of baseless claims. You assume it would be equal as if Naruto uses all his power in one blow and same with sasuke. Then you say Sasuke Imaginary EMS PS (with no proof btw) can use PS Chidori, and BSM Naruto would use a regular TBB, when its fact he can power it up by simply adding more chakra. That is where nothing you stated makes since since you do not know the ratio of chakra fro every attack and its user.
And I expect you to not get anything since you read what you want to and ignor anything that proves you wrong like always. The fact that i have to draw shit out for you shows your attention to detail.
Just as clueless as ever.
1. Him being in sage mode means everything is Senjutsu enhaced, manga fact.
2. Trying to compare them yet they were used on different subtance and defenses. You will never get how shitty your made up logic is. Kurama chooses how powerful or "big" his TBB is. And i showed manga facts of Avatar being close to or equal to Alive outside world Kyubi. No disputing, manga facts!
**Sigh* and again you writing shit that was never stated or hinted. I'll break it down again; Senjutsu enhaces already abilities/powers of it's user. Obito used a
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to block the Quad TBB, And the attack wasn't focused in one spot like against the small TSB juubito used. You get it or do I have to go into detail? Scratch that, I wont waste my time. Yet you contradict and do not understand the manga. How could it negate it when it is also Senjustu damage?
Lets not go into Name calling, that will only end bad for you.
1. You think you are right and have your lapdogs pump your head up thinking you are.
2. Me talking about a simple feat and telling you it isn't a fact isn't "terable Argument" when this is childs play for me. You couldn't beat me on my worst day in a "Debate". I don't debate you users now a days I only amuse myself.
And based on manga facts, how was it "small" when it was standard size?
Magical garb Susano'o (Iso Susano'o)
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Turbulent God, dressed into the gold impregnable armor (likely some kind of mythological armor)!
This jutsu is 9-tailed fox (kuuybi no yoko), sheathed(armored) in clad "Susano'o" armor. Gallantly using weapons that "Susano'o" carry in its front paws(hands),just like the fangs of the predator...!!It also combines the absolute defense and attack power of the "Susano'o" and 9-tails, this jutsu allows the user perfectly utilize different abilities of both (9-tails and Susano'o).
Picture:defense ,that had been invented by Uchiha Madara s "doujutsu" against Hashirama.
Databook even states it combines as in merge as in work together. Not "susanoo does this only, and Kyubi does that only". WTF are you reading again?
But ofc you will reply in an atempt to look good for your internet friends since you are a Idol in there eyes around here. So go ahead and make a useless post to seem bad ass my guy. I'll just sit back and laugh.
1. You think you are right and have your lapdogs pump your head up thinking you are.
2. Me talking about a simple feat and telling you it isn't a fact isn't "terable Argument" when this is childs play for me. You couldn't beat me on my worst day in a "Debate". I don't debate you users now a days I only amuse myself.
And based on manga facts, how was it "small" when it was standard size?
And where does it stated it negated it? Scans please! I do know for a fact the attack was Senjutsu related and TSB cannot neg Senjutsu related attacks. You are trying to use your shitty logic to prove your point but don't get what was stated and shown. Pay attention my guy and stop making shit up like always.
A senjutsu enhanced TBB is stronger then a Standard TBB of the same size, what don't you get my child? WHo said All senjustu moves compare to something that isn't already theres? You sound and look stupid trying to make shit up. I never stated any of that, you are to slow to read and comprehand that Senjustu power ups your already aresnal to be stronger. I.e Senpo Rasengan>Base Rasengan, Senpo RSS>Base Rasenshuriken. Do you understand now my child???
And again you cannot conprehand; Naruto has full control over Kuramas Power, he can choose to add more chakra at will or not, that is the advantage of being a perfect host. Then you are comparing Avatar only using "5" to that meaning it was his limit When he had to stop
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Shitty logic since it was never imply he stopped or was going to stop after teh "5" he clearly was still in the process of attack. Retarded to think he can only do that many when he didnt even have time to finish.Still making shit up to make yourself feel good.
HAd Kurama aswell, manga fact! And WHat power scaling shows or states it can on its own with No damage what so ever??? Links please!
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Turbulent God, dressed into the gold impregnable armor (likely some kind of mythological armor)!
This jutsu is 9-tailed fox (kuuybi no yoko), sheathed(armored) in clad "Susano'o" armor. Gallantly using weapons that "Susano'o" carry in its front paws(hands),just like the fangs of the predator...!!It also combines the absolute defense and attack power of the "Susano'o" and 9-tails, this jutsu allows the user perfectly utilize different abilities of both (9-tails and Susano'o).
Picture:defense ,that had been invented by Uchiha Madara s "doujutsu" against Hashirama.
Databook even states it combines as in merge as in work together. Not "susanoo does this only, and Kyubi does that only". WTF are you reading again?
You are wayyy to simple minded and tunnel vision that is why you think you are right and not worng. NF and other sites literally repeated and killed anything you would have on "Kurama is half the size BS on countless occasions. Even on this site it was already proved, but ofcourse I wouldn't expect you and your lackys to know this since it's easy to just think you know the manga when all you do is defend the would be easy (whether characters or situations). That's why most the users with sense got away from the site. I wasted wayyyy too much time on you, it's obv you will never agree at this point so it really doesn't matter to me.
But ofc you will reply in an atempt to look good for your internet friends since you are a Idol in there eyes around here. So go ahead and make a useless post to seem bad ass my guy. I'll just sit back and laugh.