Tobi's Madara voice:did Obito imitate Madara's voice Or was it indeed Madara speakin?

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Indeed, and can you pick out Einstein's voice from perhaps.. Newton's? Edisons? Galileo? Archimedes?
I'm sure VISUAL, ANYONE who Fought Madara in battle would know it's him or perhaps seen a picture would be able to distinguish that is Madara's Face, crest, weapon. SURE.

But this thread isn't referring to the sense of sight. We're talking about Obito fooling the entire Narutoverse by imitating Madara's Voice or not. An Auditory process, ..
-Aside from Obito being unable to deviate from Madara's due to seal placed on his heart,
-Obito's body being engulfed in spiral white zetsu which (in originate is a being who's chakra was taken by juubi& somehow related to Hashirama's DNA) Zetsu is being controlled by madara, easily with sharingan or without, and Zetsus are able to talk telepathically.
-Lately, aside from Obito not being an uncursed solid human being, I beg the question WHO WOULD RECOGNIZE MADARA'S VOICE, who is still living in the narutoverse. Noone is old enough to have encountered him except 2 people. The 3rd Tsuchikage, and Kakuzu.

The real question is did Kakuzu ever know Tobi was Madara. I believe Obito waited until most of Akatsuki was dead to reveal he was madara.
In the Gokage Summit, you would think Madara would call Tsuchikage weak again.
but in this thread i just talked about the voice part of the mystery of tobi....iit's not just matter of voice bro...the problem is that Tobi showed his reall face to kisame twice..andkisame always called him madara...kisame was convinced that he was Madara...you know kisame isn't dumb !!......

-let me give you general idea of my theory :

Tobi's mystery isn't over...in other words tobi isn't just obito but he was spiral zetsu and the 2nd madara sealed inside obito and controled him....befor old madara died he sealed HIS EMPTY SHELL inside obito and used him as a weaker vessel untill he gets his reall
vessel revived via rinnetensei....and when kabuto revived edomadara we had like 2 madara's runing around...

-becuz Kabuto revived tobi's reall vessel edo-madara , the 2nd madara (tobi) had to change his plan and let obito act by his free will...

-only kisame and itachi and zetsu knew about the truth of tobi being madara
 

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who is old to know how madara look like?..................albert einchtein died long time ago but we know how he looks like via his pictures....SAME THING GOES FOR MADARA...he is a legend ...everyone knows about Madara...konoha have developoed thechnologies..they must have made many madara posters and pics
You must remember that the only images of Madara we know of to exist in the Narutoverse are from the Valley of the End. No one ever took a picture of him, or painted his face, or anything like that. If Kisame sees a person with Sharingan and a weird scar who claims to be Madara, and he belives him, then to Kisame "Madara's" face now has a weird scar. He is the only person to have ever seen Obito's face and think he was Madara.

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Oh, i've always wanted to solo a theory by posting a picture of Sexy Jutsu. And now my life is complete.
Transformation is one of the earliest things taught in Ninja Academy. If Obito didn't know how to do it and turn into Madara, i will post a thread saying "Minamoto is Right", and never comment on these again.
 

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for the last time lemme tell you this....ME DONT READ YOUR COMMENTS!!!...je lis pas votre commentaires !!!....ich lese dein comments nicht !!...me no reado your commento you aro in tho ignoro Listo !!!...ching chang chong ignore List !!
He is just jealous because he can't make great threads like yours, don't mind him.

OT: Great thread, can't wait for your next one !
 

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I like OP's theories.

It makes sense. Remember when kakashi was the most capable guy in the group and Obito was fodder? How the **** did he become so strong? Doesn't make sense.

How did some fodder kid who doesn't take life seriously become a cold hearted beast? Total 180. The change is not believable.
 

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You must remember that the only images of Madara we know of to exist in the Narutoverse are from the Valley of the End. No one ever took a picture of him, or painted his face, or anything like that. If Kisame sees a person with Sharingan and a weird scar who claims to be Madara, and he belives him, then to Kisame "Madara's" face now has a weird scar. He is the only person to have ever seen Obito's face and think he was Madara.

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Oh, i've always wanted to solo a theory by posting a picture of Sexy Jutsu. And now my life is complete.
Transformation is one of the earliest things taught in Ninja Academy. If Obito didn't know how to do it and turn into Madara, i will post a thread saying "Minamoto is Right", and never comment on these again.


Who knows, maybe he used genjutsu to make Kisame see Madara's face instead.
 

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I like OP's theories.

It makes sense. Remember when kakashi was the most capable guy in the group and Obito was fodder? How the **** did he become so strong? Doesn't make sense.

How did some fodder kid who doesn't take life seriously become a cold hearted beast? Total 180. The change is not believable.
you using Logic at it Epicness....one day you will turn out to be right just like me......
 

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I like OP's theories.

It makes sense. Remember when kakashi was the most capable guy in the group and Obito was fodder? How the **** did he become so strong? Doesn't make sense.

How did some fodder kid who doesn't take life seriously become a cold hearted beast? Total 180. The change is not believable.
Same reason Nagato went from lovable emo sweetheart to twisted murdering psychopath, he pretty much went insane. Tobirama actually explains that the Uchiha have a mental condition stemming from their eyes (which explains why Nagato was similarly effected with Madara's eyes) where 1 traumatic event will slowly eat away at their mind and drive them into darkness, which is why he wanted to annihilate their clan. It took Naruto a while to get through to Obito, Obito didn't do the sick things he did out of sadism, he just thought it was necessary and also wanted to prove that 1 bad day can drive someone insane just like him, ala the Joker from batman, or two face.
 

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The manga is over, why bother with these threads anymore?

Truth is, your whole argument is easily countered by timeline inconsistencies. Your primary argument is that Tobi's inner voice was that of Madara's. This, you are implying, proves it was Madara stating these things, not Obito. Yet Madara NEVER MET ITACHI OR KISAME. So any and all knowledge this Tobidara character had on those characters was acquired solely by Obito or Zetsu AFTER Madara had died.

Therefore, you're 'Tobidara' stating he was keeping secrets from Itachi does not line up with being Madara, as Madara never communicated with Itachi nor was he ever blackmailed by him, only Obito was. Kisame NEVER met the real Madara, he only met Obito who pretended to be Madara. I've countered your manga evidence from chapter 404 several times. Kisame identifying Obito's face as being Madara was a result of Obito lying to him from the start.

Stating that other people's evidence is not actual evidence is folly. You're making gross assumptions and the timeline greatly disagrees with you. The only logical answer is that Obito imitated those other voices, through his sharingan most likely.
 

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Oh Minamoto :rolleyes:

Let me ask you this:

You say Kisame died to protect Tobi's true identity as Uchiha Madara, but wasn't Tobi the one telling everyone he was the real Madara?
 
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Hey I like the theory. But thinking outside the box for the moment...

Kishimoto probably did that to fool the VIEWERS/READERS. We are the audience. If he used Obito's voice at parts, we would know that it's not Madara therefore ruining all the hype.

I'm not saying you're wrong... or that you're right. Because it's a theory. I've watched your vids on youtube you got some good stuff, but I personally think It's just Kishi using storytell no jutsu.
 

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Oh Minamoto :rolleyes:

Let me ask you this:

You say Kisame died to protect Tobi's true identity as Uchiha Madara, but wasn't Tobi the one telling everyone he was the real Madara?
this is an old issue i talked about......let bring me a similar issue......when Aoba captured kisame and tried to take info out of his mind....and when we were about to see tobi's true face,Aoba said : "finally i will find out who uchiha Madara is??!!!"...wait wtf??...he will find out who madara is?? lol?...madara is madara and tobi is some1 else...but then i was thinking deep into it...kishi was right...becuz the mystery wasn't who is tobi..but it was who is madara...the reall mystery is Who's vessel is uchiha madara using? = OBITO!!!!........sounds weird dont it?...you wont understand this untill tobidara gets revealed!!!
 
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