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Tobi's Madara voice:did Obito imitate Madara's voice Or was it indeed Madara speakin?

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that's a true Mystery to discuss about!!

Many Obito fans say that the Masked man Tobi was just Obito who was imitating Madara Uchiha's Voice...but is this true??


My simple Answer : OF COURSE THIS ISN'T TRUE!!!!....But why????...



1-Mr Wisdom , and the wise of the Sharingan ,Itachi Uchiha taught me something good :true or false become relative concepts when we have little Understanding about the matter of Invistigation......"People live their Lives by what they accept as "CORRECT" or "TRUE"...that's how they define Reality...but what does it mean to be correct or true , merely Vague Concepts and their Reality MIGHT ALL BE A MIRAGE!!"...

-when i read these wise words i say to myself, is this an Ordinary Manga , or is it a Holly Book??


-anyway : if you say that Obito indeed imitated Madara's Voice , then you must bring the Manga Evidence and without Negligence,that Obito indeed used some jutsu to imitate Madara's voice....i mean that's not fair that you keep confirming that, forexemple a 14 years old kid Obito imitated Madara's voice to fool his sensei Minato...i mean comon?...where are your Manga evidences?.....

-now if you dont bring any manga evidences..your concept of "Truth" might become an Illusion...i mean if you said it with confidence that a kid obito succeed in imitating Madara's voice, this might be a wrong Judgment and just a pure assumption, in the same way you assumed itachi was a bad guy in naruto part 1...

-also you should understand that explaining how Obito imitated Madara's voice was a cruciall Mystery to explain by Kishimoto TO CONVINCE HIS READERS that Obito suceed in fooling others into making them believe he was the legendary shinobi UCHIHA MADARA !!!...However kishimoto skipped those details DELIBERATLY..and made it seem like an inconsistency...but trust me he ain't gonna forgot about that....there comes the day when Tobidara theory will explain everything and make every plothole that didn't make sense into a true explanations that makes perfect sense !!..


Obito Fans Evidences :


1-they say Obito Uchiha imitated Madara's voice becuz old Madara told him to go pose as Madara :

but did Madara also told him to pose as spiral Zetsu and imitate his funny Voice and stupid character??...NOO MADARA DIDN'T !!!!.....for sake of god how can you be blind to the truth that besides obito's own character...he had 2 distinct characters that corresponds 100% to Madara's and spiral zetsu's !!!....also why would he switch from spiral's funny voice into a shrill deep voice of Madara??


-the true explanation is : according to tobidara theory : Tobi wasn't just obito...Tobi's reall ID is him being Madara and spiral zetsu and obito, all being in 1 body (obito)...both Madara and spiral zetsu were controlling obito's body....but the boss tobi was madara (tobidara) ....


-The Voice Switching Process :

-the Voice Switching doesn't prove that Obito perfromed the Madara role perfectly..but it means that TobiMadara and spiral zetsu perfected their controll on obito ....Notice these well :

Spiral and Tobidara playing with obito's personality


1st tobi is acting like goofy (spiral) :

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then when zetsu came :

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Suddenly,Tobi for the 1st time in the series gets serious and change his into a badass shrill voice !!! :

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Very strange !!


Guys there was no fooling if you think it this way : that the Madara voice in tobi was simply Madara speaking...and the funny voice was spiral zetsu who was integrated within obito's body...but if you wanna get fooled in the end then just think that it was obito imitating voices !!!...



-2 when Obito fans find 0 Manga evidences to prove that obito did some jutsu to change his voice...they will say Obito changed his voice in the same way Yamato changed it when he pretended to be Sasori ....WOW!!...i love this weak manga evidence...its like an easy prey to hunt for me ....

-Yamato did imitate sasories voice ...however when Yamato was speaking to himself and had an inner voice..he still had his own Yamato voice...however the case with Tobi was otherwise !!....

-even when Tobi had ineer speech with himself he always had that Madara's voice...it doesn't make sense that obito talks to himself using Madara's voice !!!


-these are the situations where obito (if it was indeed him talking) should've been forced to talk to himself using his own obito voice (not madara's!!) :

1-Tobi Vs Konan :

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why would Obito even have Hashirama memories and fladhbacks??!! ...BECUZ HE WAS INDEED MADARA SPEAKING!!! and got proud of himself being Madara he says : I AM UCHIHA MADARA THE ONE WHO FOUGHT HASHIRAMA!!!



2-Tobi and dead Nagato :

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why would Obito use Madara's voice to speak with a dead Body of Nagato and call him the 3rd Rikudo??...0 sense is made here !!...IT WAS CLEARLY Madara speaking who called himself the 2nd rikudo and called nagato the 3rd rikudo!!...


3- Tobi when aknowledging Itachi :


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he had an inner speech of Madara...why would Obito say i hide my secret of being obito from itachi while using madara's voice??!!....HAHAHA IT DONT MAKE SENSE....madara was clearly taking full controll of obito and speaking here...he says thx to god i managed to keep the others secret of my other original vessel (tobidara) secret from itachi.....

thats why obito can never fool itachi...thats why itachi is a genious becuz he was the only one who noticed that madara was still alive in his form tobi !!....despite them being enemies ,Madara and itachi respect each others big respect...thats why itachibase and madarabase should do the same thing !!


4-when Tobi decides to implante the rinnegan he had an inner madara voice :

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Tobi's meeting with Kisame :

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Tobi in his form spiral zetsu approaches Kisame : "KISAME SENPEI!!"


Kisame was annoyed : "why you stalk me Tobi, i thought you were dead!!"..


then Ooops Tobi switches to his Tobidara voice ..

-then Kisame was like WTF??!! this badass voice !!

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then Tobi takes off his Mask and shows his tobidara face to kisame : "Its me kisame UCHIHA MADARA"

-Kisame then felt confortable and say :

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-Kisame died like hero protecting the secret of tobi's true identity to be Uchiha Madara :

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I agree its a difficult subject but to think that Madara is possessing or Obito hasn't the ability to think on his own is false.

We know from the moment Obito was saved by Madara that Madara placed a seal on his heart so he could not deviate from the plan. Therefore anytime he tried to maybe just go home, Madara could possibly control his moments.

That part is vague and we only really see him allowing kakashi to destroy his heart so the seal goes away.
Aside from that we also know that Spiral Zetsu had the ability to communicate telepathically with other Zetsu and it also relayed information to obito. Obito needed that body to survive the rest of his life therefore he should have always been connected to zetsu, who is controlled by Madara.

Madara used Obito and imposed his Will upon him. It was Obito's Vessel of a body, but no doubt it was ALL Madara's Will.
As far as voice. Chakra? Chakra can do pretty much everything.
And i mean just to make his voice deeper.

Can i ask the simplest question?
Who is old enough to know what Madara actually sounds like?
 
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could possibly be true. not out of the realm of possibilities.

however, throwing your voice & imitating other voices should be a typical ninja skill.
i think he continued to use the "madara voice" even in private because we, the readers, weren't supposed to know his true identity yet.
i don't think its that deep, but if it is. kudos to you OP.

i dont necessarily agree, but i cant knock the thread.
 
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Rogue Pit said:
I agree its a difficult subject but to think that Madara is possessing or Obito hasn't the ability to think on his own is false.

We know from the moment Obito was saved by Madara that Madara placed a seal on his heart so he could not deviate from the plan. Therefore anytime he tried to maybe just go home, Madara could possibly control his moments.

That part is vague and we only really see him allowing kakashi to destroy his heart so the seal goes away.
Aside from that we also know that Spiral Zetsu had the ability to communicate telepathically with other Zetsu and it also relayed information to obito. Obito needed that body to survive the rest of his life therefore he should have always been connected to zetsu, who is controlled by Madara.

Madara used Obito and imposed his Will upon him. It was Obito's Vessel of a body, but no doubt it was ALL Madara's Will.
As far as voice. Chakra? Chakra can do pretty much everything.
And i mean just to make his voice deeper.

Can i ask the simplest question?
Who is old enough to know what Madara actually sounds like?
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thx bro

who is old to know how madara look like?..................albert einchtein died long time ago but we know how he looks like via his pictures....SAME THING GOES FOR MADARA...he is a legend ...everyone knows about Madara...konoha have developoed thechnologies..they must have made many madara posters and pics
 

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This is an interesting thread with a lot of well constructed arguments, and it's definitely a subject I think about often. Obviously, the answer to this question is highly subjective, and I don't believe there is a single right answer. I like reading everyone's opinion on the matter, though, and I hope this discussion goes on.
 
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minamoto said:
thx bro

who is old to know how madara look like?..................albert einchtein died long time ago but we know how he looks like via his pictures....SAME THING GOES FOR MADARA...he is a legend ...everyone knows about Madara...konoha have developoed thechnologies..they must have made many madara posters and pics
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Indeed, and can you pick out Einstein's voice from perhaps.. Newton's? Edisons? Galileo? Archimedes?
I'm sure VISUAL, ANYONE who Fought Madara in battle would know it's him or perhaps seen a picture would be able to distinguish that is Madara's Face, crest, weapon. SURE.

But this thread isn't referring to the sense of sight. We're talking about Obito fooling the entire Narutoverse by imitating Madara's Voice or not. An Auditory process, ..
-Aside from Obito being unable to deviate from Madara's due to seal placed on his heart,
-Obito's body being engulfed in spiral white zetsu which (in originate is a being who's chakra was taken by juubi& somehow related to Hashirama's DNA) Zetsu is being controlled by madara, easily with sharingan or without, and Zetsus are able to talk telepathically.
-Lately, aside from Obito not being an uncursed solid human being, I beg the question WHO WOULD RECOGNIZE MADARA'S VOICE, who is still living in the narutoverse. Noone is old enough to have encountered him except 2 people. The 3rd Tsuchikage, and Kakuzu.

The real question is did Kakuzu ever know Tobi was Madara. I believe Obito waited until most of Akatsuki was dead to reveal he was madara.
In the Gokage Summit, you would think Madara would call Tsuchikage weak again.
 
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