[Debate] Should Murderers commit Suicide?

Senju Bean

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That is the only way for true justice to be achieved.

The death penalty only punishes them against their will.

They have to want to die and they should want to die.


Any murderer that doesn't want to die, is a lost cause.

They deserve to die, and they should want to die.
 

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And if they don't want to die, they should be let go?
 

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Ya I don't see where your going with this. The death penalty is not meant to reform people, it's meant to get rid of the bad ones.
 

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What if they're innocent? Since courts seems to sometimes mess up.
Anyways I don't agree with you. Jail for like life or 22 years (idk how it works in other countries) is enough. If they were to do it a second time, than I agree kinda.
 

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Ya I don't see where your going with this. The death penalty is not meant to reform people, it's meant to get rid of the bad ones.

Not against the death penalty.

Im just arguing that murderers have a moral responsibility to die.
 

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Of course not. They should die anyways

Then why not kill those(among the murderers)who want to commit suicide, no one gave them the right to take the lives of their victims. The right to take their own lives should be taken for them as punishment
 

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What if they're innocent? Since courts seems to sometimes mess up.
Anyways I don't agree with you. Jail for like life or 22 years (idk how it works in other countries) is enough. If they were to do it a second time, than I agree kinda.

If they really did kill someone, and got free after 22 yrs. They they are evil. Only evil people wouldn't accept what they truly deserve.

Just because the courts decides 22 years doesn't absolve them of the responsibility to commit suicide.
 

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The court system has been ruling guilty lately, so I don't think the death sentence is necessary. Also, committing suicide is the easy way out.
 

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What if they're innocent? Since courts seems to sometimes mess up.
Anyways I don't agree with you. Jail for like life or 22 years (idk how it works in other countries) is enough. If they were to do it a second time, than I agree kinda.
So people who smoke should die, but people who murder shouldn't? Lawd.

Anyways, uh, this makes no sense, why would they want to die if they intentionally killed someone? I doubt they feel guilt.
 

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Not against the death penalty.

Im just arguing that murderers have a moral responsibility to die.

If murderers had any moral responsibility to begin with they probably wouldn't have murdered someone.
 

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This makes very little sense, and quite frankly I never understood the death penalty. Life in prison sounds a lot worse, death is more of a liberation. And depending on the crime, life in prison may even be worse than hell.

That's what I think to.
 

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So people who smoke should die, but people who murder shouldn't? Lawd.

Anyways, uh, this makes no sense, why would they want to die if they intentionally killed someone? I doubt they feel guilt.

Well, if they don't feel guilt, then they should be excecuted anyways.


But if they do, then they should commit suicide.



I'm basically putting forth the argument because some people admit guilt, get out after 50 yrs of prision, and says they did their time. No they didn't. They got off easy and if they were truely reformed, they should want to die.
 

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So people who smoke should die, but people who murder shouldn't? Lawd.

Anyways, uh, this makes no sense, why would they want to die if they intentionally killed someone? I doubt they feel guilt.

Naw I changed my mind. I was a bit naive, smokers shouldn't die. But it would be good if they quit :)
 

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If murderers had any moral responsibility to begin with they probably wouldn't have murdered someone.

Well, if they had no morals, then they should be excecuted.


If they can be reformed, then with their newfound morals, they should want to die.


Basically, regardless of whether they can be reformed or not, the best option is for them to die.
 

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What we need is to make sure that nobody gets hurt again. Making them kill themselves won't make families feel that much better.

If one truly wanted to die for their crimes and truly will not do it again then we can say they don't deserve death. It's pretty much impossible to tell though.

Those who do not want to die and don't feel remorse should be at least locked away from society forever.

Also, a murderer is not gonna go like "shit, I've killed someone, I want to die now." The ones that do think that carry their suicide out. The others on the other hand, did what they wanted, so why would they have a sense of morality to punish themselves. It makes no sense.
 
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Well, if they had no morals, then they should be excecuted.


If they can be reformed, then with their newfound morals, they should want to die.


Basically, regardless of whether they can be reformed or not, the best option is for them to die.

That's a very black and white thought process. What about war, self defense, what about a father who murders his young son's rapist out of grief and anger? What about those who suffer from serious mental illness? The world is too grey scale for that.
 
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