Reasons why non-Uchihas using the Powers of Sharingan is a complete Bull$hit!!

[minamoto]

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-1st WHAT IS SHARINGAN????

I define it as follows :


The Sharingan is the phisical manifestation of the sipritual Energy of an Uchiha eyes and that Phisical Manfistation is characterized by its special Design , Tomoes and the Red color...and this Design can upgrade into Ms and EMS


SHARINGAN = TOMOES + RED COLOR....



The Source of the Sharingan's powers :


According to Tobirama :

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Hatred wich is one of the Basis of spiritual energy feeds the Uchiha eyes with special chakra..and it leaves SYMTOMPS IN THE UCHIHA EYES known as SHARINGAN !!



-THE EVIDENCE THAT THE SHARINGAN IS A SPIRITUAL POWER :


Notice well itachi's eyes :

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these are both itachi's eyes..but they are not both sharingans wich means that THESE EYES ARE JUST THE PHISICAL VESSEL OF THE SHARINGAN !!!



-THE BULL$HITS AND PLOTHOLES RESULTING FROM A NON-UCHIHA USING SPIRITUAL POWERS OF SHARINGAN !!


Now the problem is that when some non- Uchiha like Danzo implants the sharingan into his body ....why is it that those eyes still have the manifestation of spiritual energy like tomoes in form of sharingan???......why aren't those extracted eyes like the ones Tobidara had in his laboratory not in standard form (tomoeless)??....IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE !!!!!!!!........what is even more Bullshit is when a Non-uchiha like kakashi activated Susano without his eyes :

UNLESS !! :

How to fix these Plotholes :

this is my theory :

the senju do have some Uchiha Powers....and Uchihas do have some senju powers....but how???...

-plz Notice this YIN YANG SYMBOL WELL!! :

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The sharingan

the sharingan be it standard or mangekyou has 2 aspects :

-A)as an eye : or better said as phisical part of the body : the sharinagan is needed for sight in the same way hands are needed to perform handseals

-B)as a source of spiritual energy : wich is the basis of the uchihas dojutsus..

thus the sharingan has 2 sources of powers :

-A) spiritual energy: for exemple The susano requires the spiritual energy of the sharingan user, hence onces susano is awakned the user can activate it,even if he loses his eyes...best exemple is madara uchiha..

-B) phisical energy : for exemple : the copycat abilities are impossible without having the sharingan AS BEING AN EYE that is part of the Body.....


The sharingan is like USB that contains Data

1-USB = the Phisical part or better said the Vessel of the sharingan


2- The Data = all the Information stored in USB = i put all my infos in usb and give it to you...then you use that USB to benifit from all dta that it contains = i give you My Eyes and that Eye has a phisical power wich is it's ability to restore my spiritual energy...so when you implant my eyes my stored sharingan would automatically manifest itself in your eyes...and Congrates you just activated sharingan !!!.............

Spoiler

Seriously i still think that Kakashi using Susano is a Bull$hit!!! xD

 

[lndra]

All your theories are the same with different titles.

 

[Angelic.]

tobidara doesnt have a susanoo haha!

 

[minamoto]

All your theories are the same with different titles.

you are about 2 steps from being inside my Ignore list...all you have to do now is knock it's door...toc toc and i shall welcom you!

 

[chuloe]

Corvus is in effect

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

I agree bro

 

[Shruikan]

Brilliant analysis.Liked and rated thread 5 stars

 

[EliteKakashi]

Kakashi didn't activate susanoo, Obito did. Kakashi used susanoo because Obito's soul/energy entered his body and allowed him to. Don't forget that Kakashi didn't even have his left eye sharingan before Obito assisted him, it was taken by Madara much earlier/then Naruto restored Kakashi's original eye.

 

[shelke]

I agree completely. Kakashi didn't awaken MS either. It's a manga fact. Let the whining begin from the usual lobby now.

 

[EliteKakashi]

I agree completely. Kakashi didn't awaken MS either. It's a manga fact. Let the whining begin from the usual lobby now.

Nah, that was thanks to Obito as well.

Kakashi's use of the sharingan, both 3T and kamui, and becoming more famous than all but 3 or 4 Uchiha in history in how incredible his use was with it was all his doing, though.

 

[shelke]

Nah, that was thanks to Obito as well.

Kakashi's use of the sharingan, both 3T and kamui, and becoming more famous than all but 3 or 4 Uchiha in history in how incredible his use was with it was all his doing, though.

You are the first Kakashi fan to agree with this then.

 

[EliteKakashi]

You are the first Kakashi fan to agree with this then.

I think the only question regarding his MS is why he didn't have any noted use of it from the day it was activated up until he mentioned he trained in using it during the 3 year time skip. What caused him to realize he had it would be interesting to find out.

But the likely explanation is Kishi never actually expected to give Kakashi the mangekyo in part 1 and only came to the idea that he wanted to give him that ability when he was writing out the storyline for part 2.

Where Kishi messed up in regards to Kakashi using the MS is how he allowed him to basically spam it like an Uchiha in the war arc. The limitations it caused him after using it throughout most of part 2 made sense given he lacked the body to withstand it(even Itachi and Sasuke showed more exhaustion using their MS techniques through most of the manga than Kakashi did in the war arc). Just spamming it willy nilly was stupid on Kishi's part, in terms of believability.

But then again most of part two was stupid on Kishi's part, so oh well.

 

[lndra]

you are about 2 steps from being inside my Ignore list...all you have to do now is knock it's door...toc toc and i shall welcom you!

I could care less minamoto

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[Natsu Shazneel]

All your theories are the same with different titles.

Totally agree with this. Thread soloed.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Reason 1: Tobidara
Reason 2: Tobidara
Reason 3: Tobidara

All other reasons: Tobidara!!

Haters be Jalous.

 

[Shruikan]

I think the only question regarding his MS is why he didn't have any noted use of it from the day it was activated up until he mentioned he trained in using it during the 3 year time skip. What caused him to realize he had it would be interesting to find out.

But the likely explanation is Kishi never actually expected to give Kakashi the mangekyo in part 1 and only came to the idea that he wanted to give him that ability when he was writing out the storyline for part 2.

Where Kishi messed up in regards to Kakashi using the MS is how he allowed him to basically spam it like an Uchiha in the war arc. The limitations it caused him after using it throughout most of part 2 made sense given he lacked the body to withstand it(even Itachi and Sasuke showed more exhaustion using their MS techniques through most of the manga than Kakashi did in the war arc). Just spamming it willy nilly was stupid on Kishi's part, in terms of believability.

But then again most of part two was stupid on Kishi's part, so oh well.

Giving Kakashi the MS would have messed up the power scaling in Part 1 especially against Orochimaru with Kamui

Yeah I agree somewhat about the sharingan part too. Kakashi went from being bed ridden for a week through normal sharingan usage to being bed ridden for the SAME time with MS usage in Part 2 and in the War Arc,plain spamming it.This is not possible unless his stamina and chakra levels magically increased.He originally didnt have stamina to maintain the normal one for a long time as he himself had admitted

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara uses susanno with out eyes=everything ok

Kakashi's uses Susano without eyes= it's a problem.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Madara uses susanno with out eyes=everything ok

Kakashi's uses Susano without eyes= it's a problem.

And the biggest thing with that is Kakashi's susanoo use actually has an explanation(Obito's chakra).

Madara has no explanation, other than the fact that he's Madara.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

i----------> .


-1st WHAT IS SHARINGAN????

I define it as follows :


The Sharingan is the phisical manifestation of the sipritual Energy of an Uchiha eyes and that Phisical Manfistation is characterized by its special Design , Tomoes and the Red color...and this Design can upgrade into Ms and EMS


SHARINGAN = TOMOES + RED COLOR....



The Source of the Sharingan's powers :


According to Tobirama :

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Hatred wich is one of the Basis of spiritual energy feeds the Uchiha eyes with special chakra..and it leaves SYMTOMPS IN THE UCHIHA EYES known as SHARINGAN !!



-THE EVIDENCE THAT THE SHARINGAN IS A SPIRITUAL POWER :


Notice well itachi's eyes :

You must be registered for see images

these are both itachi's eyes..but they are not both sharingans wich means that THESE EYES ARE JUST THE PHISICAL VESSEL OF THE SHARINGAN !!!



-THE BULL$HITS AND PLOTHOLES RESULTING FROM A NON-UCHIHA USING SPIRITUAL POWERS OF SHARINGAN !!


Now the problem is that when some non- Uchiha like Danzo implants the sharingan into his body ....why is it that those eyes still have the manifestation of spiritual energy like tomoes in form of sharingan???......why aren't those extracted eyes like the ones Tobidara had in his laboratory not in standard form (tomoeless)??....IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE !!!!!!!!........what is even more Bullshit is when a Non-uchiha like kakashi activated Susano without his eyes :

UNLESS !! :

How to fix these Plotholes :

this is my theory :

the senju do have some Uchiha Powers....and Uchihas do have some senju powers....but how???...

-plz Notice this YIN YANG SYMBOL WELL!! :

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

The sharingan

the sharingan be it standard or mangekyou has 2 aspects :

-A)as an eye : or better said as phisical part of the body : the sharinagan is needed for sight in the same way hands are needed to perform handseals

-B)as a source of spiritual energy : wich is the basis of the uchihas dojutsus..

thus the sharingan has 2 sources of powers :

-A) spiritual energy: for exemple The susano requires the spiritual energy of the sharingan user, hence onces susano is awakned the user can activate it,even if he loses his eyes...best exemple is madara uchiha..

-B) phisical energy : for exemple : the copycat abilities are impossible without having the sharingan AS BEING AN EYE that is part of the Body.....


The sharingan is like USB that contains Data

1-USB = the Phisical part or better said the Vessel of the sharingan


2- The Data = all the Information stored in USB = i put all my infos in usb and give it to you...then you use that USB to benifit from all dta that it contains = i give you My Eyes and that Eye has a phisical power wich is it's ability to restore my spiritual energy...so when you implant my eyes my stored sharingan would automatically manifest itself in your eyes...and Congrates you just activated sharingan !!!.............

Spoiler

Seriously i still think that Kakashi using Susano is a Bull$hit!!! xD

Great thread totally agree.

 

[Rogue Pit]

I agree wholeheartedly.

I believe this is best illustrated in the manga with Orochimaru's studies. He was the key and a lot of the lure was demonstrated in the regular naruto series but we had no idea what the experiments lead to. We learn more and more that he studied and tried to manipulate the powers of everyone who ended up joining sasuke's join hebi/taka, as well as uchiha eyes. He implanted sharingans in a multitude of people and most of the died. The ending result was as you explain it they must have senju blood. So either Danzo is a descendent or Orochimaru was able to incorporate that power in as well.

I believe the whole point is for someone of something distinct joining with it's opposing power and achieving balance.

Black Zetsu wrote on the tablet and altered it for an uchiha to gain the power of senju to create rinnegan( for his own purposes). The Sage wrote on because he didn't want his power to be awakened in this world.

Uchiha gaining Senju should be the same the opposite way. I don't believe it is meant for Senju to have rinnegan but ....have exactly what naruto had.. Senjutsu of the 6 paths. Achieving balance in their perspective spiritual or physical powers.

Kakashi along with Obito is the exact same thing.

I agree it was a little of a children's story as we have never seen any uchiha rise from their ashes momentarily.(Could itachi do that?)
But going along with the physics of this world.. Kakashi as we have to understand is senju or of senju descend. I believe the white hair could possibly be an indicator as it may be related to jiraiya and tobirama. So that is why he was able to connect to obito's Sharingan.

Another thing is we also can't attribute that as a normal occurrence. Obito NEVER DIED/THEY Both achieved MS simultaneously. Those were some twisted scenes of events. So their connections could be way kakashi was able to use it. We don't know.

But kakashi with *Obito's Spiritual Energy* is simulating uchiha+senju power, which Perfect Susanoo is an understatement for in earnest.
Sasuke with only 3tomoe and cursed seal(senju energy) was able to break out of Tsukiyomi(MS).

Combining the two is what its all about.