Kisame vs Gengetsu

[Izanamı.]

who would win?

 

[Mugen Onsa]

Trollkage with high difficulty IMO

 

[Amaterasu]

Same as KD. Med-diff tho'

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Kisame has a counter/method of avoiding everything in the Trollkages arsenal. With that being said, in a no intel fight, it depends on Kisames course of action and how long it takes for him to figure out the Trollkages tactics in order to effectively counter. In a full intel fight or under the assumption that Kisame has intel on the previous Mizukage, Kisame will not lose.

 

[Zexion~]

Kisame wins this every time.

 

[Mugen Onsa]

Kisame has a counter/method of avoiding everything in the Trollkages arsenal. With that being said, in a no intel fight, it depends on Kisames course of action and how long it takes for him to figure out the Trollkages tactics in order to effectively counter. In a full intel fight or under the assumption that Kisame has intel on the previous Mizukage, Kisame will not lose.

Yo FT!!!! Finally posted huh

We know each other but you don't know who's alt I am. I'm from the 2013 generation.

I just hope you know that the Trollkage can casually avoid every tech Kisame has by liquefying himself except for Daikodan, which he can sidestep rather easily by merging himself fully underwater.

You still think Tobirama loses to Kisame?

 

[Zexion~]

I just hope you know that the Trollkage can casually avoid every tech Kisame has by liquefying himself except for Daikodan, which he can sidestep rather easily by merging himself fully underwater.

If he liquefies himself fully...on or under water he gets dispersed throughout the body of water and dies. Not to mention fused Kisame absorbs his chakra liquefied or not Lol

 

[Mugen Onsa]

If he liquefies himself fully...on or under water he gets dispersed throughout the body of water and dies. Not to mention fused Kisame absorbs his chakra liquefied or not Lol

Hey Zex. Mind me asking how the **** that happens? He's keeping himself together and he won't die underwater. Suigetsu stuck in an underwater tube for a long ass time, and he didn't die. Hydrification doesn't work like that. And Gengetsu can actually merge himself onto Kisame's water sharks so that his body doesn't get dispersed. Though he can actually just sidestep the sharks as well. Kisame can sense and absorb his chakra though Gengetsu has a means of offense in Joki Boi.

 

[Zexion~]

Hey Zex. Mind me asking how the **** that happens? He's keeping himself together and he won't die underwater. Suigetsu stuck in an underwater tube for a long ass time, and he didn't die. Hydrification doesn't work like that. And Gengetsu can actually merge himself onto Kisame's water sharks so that his body doesn't get dispersed. Though he can actually just sidestep the sharks as well. Kisame can sense and absorb his chakra though Gengetsu has a means of offense in Joki Boi.

Lol don't recall Suigetsu remaining in that tube in a complete liquid state .-. but whatever this dude still gets shit on. In the WD Kisame catches up to this loser and then absorbs his chakra completely whether he liquefies or not. He absorbs Joki Boy before it ever explodes or protects himself with water prison. At the worst he heals from it with relative difficulty

 

[Beans2]

Kisame wins mid diff.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Jōki Bōi is a clone made from the Trollkage's chakra but the explosions are based off of the reaction between the oil heating up the clone's water which aren't created from chakra but originate from the Trollkage's body, so I don't think Kisame can absorb the explosions themselves. Kisame touching Jōki Bōi whilst fused would absorb its chakra though, so Gengetsu has to be careful about how to control its movements. If Kisame isn't fused, he can forget about winning. If Kisame fuses, it could go either way with high difficulty. Full intel favors Kisame.

 

[Zexion~]

Jōki Bōi is a clone made from the Trollkage's chakra but the explosions are based off of the reaction between the oil heating up the clone's water which aren't created from chakra but originate from the Trollkage's body, so I don't think Kisame can absorb the explosions themselves. Kisame touching Jōki Bōi whilst fused would absorb its chakra though, so Gengetsu has to be careful about how to control its movements. If Kisame isn't fused, he can forget about winning. If Kisame fuses, it could go either way with high difficulty.

He can't my man but Samehada can still heal from the blast unless he's directly on top of the explosion which if he was he could absorb them before they explode. Even when inflicted a wound that should kill anyone near immediately ( pierced right through the ribs and many organs) Samehada keeps him alive and heals him.

 

[Mugen Onsa]

Lol don't recall Suigetsu remaining in that tube in a complete liquid state .-. but whatever this dude still gets shit on. In the WD Kisame catches up to this loser and then absorbs his chakra completely whether he liquefies or not. He absorbs Joki Boy before it ever explodes or protects himself with water prison. At the worst he heals from it with relative difficulty

Oh yeah? And how does Kisame catch up to him? Trollkage being completely merged to the water means that he bypasses the handicap of fluid resistance since he is just one entity, whilst Kisame is still a separate entity from the water. Kisame can't tank and heal from Joki explosions for ever, but it might be able to catch up to it. If Joki can liquefy itself it makes it harder for Kisame.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

He can't my man but Samehada can still heal from the blast unless he's directly on top of the explosion which if he was he could absorb them before they explode. Even when inflicted a wound that should kill anyone near immediately ( pierced right through the ribs and many organs) Samehada keeps him alive and heals him.

Jōki Bōi would have a harder time killing a fused Kisame because the Samehada will immediately heal him but I'm not sure what you mean about the bolded. Kisame has to touch the clone to absorb its chakra.

 

[Zexion~]

Oh yeah? And how does Kisame catch up to him? Trollkage being completely merged to the water means that he bypasses the handicap of fluid resistance since he is just one entity, whilst Kisame is still a separate entity from the water. Kisame can't tank and heal from Joki explosions for ever, but it might be able to catch up to it. If Joki can liquefy itself it makes it harder for Kisame.

Oh god... How exactly do you think a puddle of water is going to acquire enough force to even really move at all? Never mind out-speed the fastest underwater shinobi in the manga. If he ever fully liquefies himself he gets absorbed whether manually or with a GWB that he can't "side step" (which is laughable in itself) when he's a pile of water.

 

[Mugen Onsa]

Oh god... How exactly do you think a puddle of water is going to acquire enough force to even really move at all? Never mind out-speed the fastest underwater shinobi in the manga. If he ever fully liquefies himself he gets absorbed whether manually or with a GWB that he can't "side step" (which is laughable in itself) when he's a pile of water.

Because Hydrification users can still move whilst merged with water? Flowing with water makes it easier for them to move around? If anything, GSB with its prep and linear movement hitting Gengetsu while he's merged completely with water is a laughable notion in itself, Zexion.

 

[Zexion~]

Jōki Bōi would have a harder time killing a fused Kisame because the Samehada will immediately heal him but I'm not sure what you mean about the bolded. Kisame has to touch the clone to absorb its chakra.

Im talking about if its used when he's not fused, the bolded states that the Joki Boy won't be able to fully kill Kisame unless he's directly on top of it (as that would blow off limbs).... which if he was the chakra would have been absorbed by that time if he was that close. Any other distance and the damage is minor enough to heal from.

 

[Zexion~]

Because Hydrification users can still move whilst merged with water? Flowing with water makes it easier for them to move around? If anything, GSB with its prep and linear movement hitting Gengetsu while he's merged completely with water is a laughable notion in itself, Zexion.

He's already shown he can control the movement of his water bombs though? Do you have any proof of this extreme speed while in the form of a puddle? Under water? Suigetsu showed that he can use the water to increase his size. No ones ever showed that they can basically become one with the body of water...or whatever you are trying to say?

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Im talking about if its used when he's not fused, the bolded states that the Joki Boy won't be able to fully kill Kisame unless he's directly on top of it (as that would blow off limbs).... which if he was the chakra would have been absorbed by that time if he was that close. Any other distance and the damage is minor enough to heal from.

Ok but the next part isn't true. I hope you know that the AoE of Jōki Bōi's explosion is

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so the clone doesn't have to be very close to Kisame to significantly hurt him. If Kisame gets hit once while not fused it's game over since the explosion would send both flying, and the clone can reform itself fast enough [

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] to kick the Samehada away if it needs to since Samehada extends its hilt to stick to Kisame and heal him.

 

[Mugen Onsa]

He's already shown he can control the movement of his water bombs though? Do you have any proof of this extreme speed while in the form of a puddle? Under water? Suigetsu showed that he can use the water to increase his size. No ones ever showed that they can basically become one with the body of water...or whatever you are trying to say?

GSB, which is the only attack that will hurt Trollkage, is a linear attack when it's shot. Kisame can alter its trajectory but doing a complete 180 and turning with the shark is a different story. All hydrification users can merge and become one with water, and if anything, being able to control the water around them like Suigetsu did in that instance would make them faster.