Who is stronger ems sasuke or bujji naruto?

[adeshina365]

It's nice to see you in good health KG.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

What are the main points in that KCM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke debate? @Buster and @KG

I think Naruto wins but you got that debate by the balls KG Lol I might throw in a few points.​

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[KidGamer65]

What are the main points in that KCM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke debate? @Buster and @KG

I think Naruto wins but you got that debate by the balls KG Lol I might throw in a few points.​

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Basically he says, or at least was saying, that KCM Naruto would use multiple clones as diversions to land FRS on his Susanoo and destroy it...but he conceded that whole argument. I basically said that Amaterasu counters any COFRS+ sized FRS, and normal FRS can be evaded or countered with Enton Magatama and the Enton Blade.

But he conceded...so yeah. Lol. Feel free to drop some points though.

 

[Blackwatch]

Basically he says, or at least was saying, that KCM Naruto would use multiple clones as diversions to land FRS on his Susanoo and destroy it...but he conceded that whole argument. I basically said that Amaterasu counters any COFRS+ sized FRS, and normal FRS can be evaded or countered with Enton Magatama and the Enton Blade.

But he conceded...so yeah. Lol. Feel free to drop some points though.

See, but the thing is, Amaterasu sucks hardcore elephant taint and can't overpower Part 1 Udon.

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More directly, BM Naruto is obviously stronger. I also say KCM is stronger, but potato, potahto U_U

 

[KidGamer65]

See, but the thing is, Amaterasu sucks hardcore elephant taint and can't overpower Part 1 Udon.

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More directly, BM Naruto is obviously stronger. I also say KCM is stronger, but potato, potahto U_U

It's canonically dealt with FRS though.

 

[Bronze]

Naruto shit-stomps him.

 

[Netflix and Chill]

Lol. I suggest we stop making petty excuses. Sasuke not using it before isn't proof that he can't use it, when I have panels of him being able to use it. It's that simple. This whole portion of your argument is nothing but an opinion.

Not "we" you. Your argument is basically Sasuke didn't use it just because deep derp or because he unlocked only unlocked it when he was linked to Naruto's chakra. So it's just a coincidence that when Naruto gave Sasuke a cloak his Susano leveled up but when he's directly connected to Naruto's chakra...nothing happens? Lol k.

What the hell are you talking about? If he unlocked it on the spot, which would be when him and Naruto combined their Avatars, why would he go fight separately, on his own, when he can merge his power with Naruto.

So it's only by pure coincidence that when Sasuke and Naruto merge their avatars Sasuke "unlocked" that Susano? No other time, just only when he coated Naruto's avatar with Susano? Lol coincidences these days...



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He CAN. Keyword is can. When he does they get a cloak. Did you see Sasuke w/ a cloak? No. It was destroyed when Juubito dropped his ass on the ground. Lol.

Why would he have a cloak when he's in the avatar already??? Like c'mon man that's simple shit. The only time Sasuke would need a cloak is if he's going to exit the avatar and would need that power source outside of the avatar. Besides that he's essentially in the "cloak".

Yes. It only gets a Senjutsu boost though, cause Naruto's chakra cloak is what boosts the person. Not making contact with his Avatar. Sasuke had no cloak, so his Susanoo wouldn't be boosted. I can't see why it is so hard for you to comprehend simple panels.

No. Juugo boosted Sasuke's Susano with senjutsu. What Naruto did was boost it with senjutsu along with level it up to the Susano that covered Kurama with his chakra. Sasuke didn't have a cloak because he was essentially connect to the power source directly. Simple as that, Naruto's chakra leveled up Susano. Unless you wanna stick with the whole coincidence thing...

And at the end of the argument, we come to the conclusion that you fail. Hard. Even if I assume for a second that being in contact with the Avatar=Susanoo being boosted by Naruto's chakra and his Senjutsu. Susanoo getting boosted doesn't mean that Sasuke didn't use PS on his own. All that means is that what we saw was an enhanced PS

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So I guess your sticking with the whole coincidence bit. Whatevs, to each is own I've shown you the proof to back up my claims.

1. Sasuke uses PS.

2. Sasuke armors Naruto's Avatar with it.

3. Sasuke's PS gets a Senjutsu boost.

Lol. Those panels are literally as simple as that

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Addressed this above.

Never said that Hagoromo's chakra never boosted his Susanoo. I suggest we read before we reply. It saves me the trouble of correcting you.

I said level up not boost. Boost is what Juugo did to Sasuke's Susano, level up is what Naruto did to Sasuke's Susano along with the senjutsu, follow closely. I've had to correct you numerous times about misreading or misinterpreting my post. Leave the hypocrisy at home please.


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Lol, this is so pathetic. PS getting a boost resulted in a boosted PS. Meaning Sasuke's PS getting a Senjutsu boost from Naruto results in an enhanced PS. Is that proof that Sasuke got a Susanoo version he couldn't use before?

I'll say it again, Juugo boosted Susano with senjutsu. Naruto boosted it with senjutsu and leveled it up with his chakra. Proof of this is that his Susano ONLY changed AFTER merging with Kurama's avatar. But your gunna say that was coincidence right?

No. I don't know if we have begun to troll or if you really are that bad at comprehending what you read. Lol, and to think I expected this discussion to be somewhat fruitful.

I'm enjoying this debate, sorry to hear you feel that way.

Similarities? I showed you traits that they share down to the T, and all you can do is throw weak examples in my face. It's ironic that you were criticizing people arguing with you before, but now that it's come time to face the scans, all I see are weak assertions, and blatant disregard of manga panels. Learn how to debate. You counter your opposition's post. You don't make up shit excuses and ignore the panels altogether. That's dishonest debating and I can only suggest that you cut it out or stop wasting my time.


What's funny is that you can't even tell me what Susanoo was on Kurama, yet I've proved what Susanoo was on Kurama. Though keep ignoring the argument cause it proves you wrong. The only one who looks bad here is you.

Bruh...this is your argument

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Yes. He did. Anyone who can read the Manga knows that he did.

1. Madara had PS w/ EMS.

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Tsunade is amazed that Hashirama fought this thing. Onoki asks why Madara held back. (held PS back) Madara says that adults don't beat up kids w/ their full power, confirming that he had PS back then. Confirming that he used it on Hashirama.

2. Madara

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-Same Mountain Cutting abilities.

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-Same Swords, shoulder guards, tengu nose, and diamond as the regular PS.

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Now we have Sasuke's PS on Kurama.

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Too similar to PS for anyone to logically say that it's not PS, but some other version of Susanoo that looks nothing like what's in the pic.

3. Sasuke states he's doing what Madara did in the past.

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-Hashirama's reaction confirms that he is.

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Sasuke has PS and it's a Manga Fact.

That post is filled with damn near everyone but Sasuke lol the guy your suppose to be arguing for. You literally showed scans of Madara, Tsunade talking about Madara's and his Susano, Sasuke saying that him covering Kurama just like Madara did, and Hashirama saying "that's" lol. That's supposed to be more compelling than me showing you how Sasuke's Susano reacts with the right chakra and the right amounts of chakra? I gave you scans showing every instance of when his Susano leveled up from legged to PS to bijuu Susano. But I guess that's all coincidence that every time his Susano leveled up from legged to bijuu and the different peoples chakra/amount of chakra that helped Susano level up. Panels plain as day but like I said, to each his own, believe what you want.

 

[QdonEms]

Im gonna be honest sasuke needs legged susanoo to be on par with BM. BSM naruto beats sasuke mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not "we" you. Your argument is basically Sasuke didn't use it just because deep derp or because he unlocked only unlocked it when he was linked to Naruto's chakra. So it's just a coincidence that when Naruto gave Sasuke a cloak his Susano leveled up but when he's directly connected to Naruto's chakra...nothing happens? Lol k

Except he wasn't directly connected to his chakra. He was touching the Avatar. It's chakra never entered his body and that is HOW the boost occurs. I'm not sure how many times that will have to be said before you comprehend it and stop repeating the same defeated points.

So it's only by pure coincidence that when Sasuke and Naruto merge their avatars Sasuke "unlocked" that Susano? No other time, just only when he coated Naruto's avatar with Susano? Lol coincidences these days...

Once again. Sasuke and Naruto merging their Avatars has shit to do with Sasuke's Susanoo, because Sasuke himself isn't being boosted. Then there's the fact that he used PS before their Avatars had completely merged together. There is no coincidence, your inability to comprehend my argument is just making it seem like there is one.

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Why would he have a cloak when he's in the avatar already??? Like c'mon man that's simple shit. The only time Sasuke would need a cloak is if he's going to exit the avatar and would need that power source outside of the avatar. Besides that he's essentially in the "cloak".

I suggest we get manga panels of anyone w/o a cloak in the Avatar getting a power up, cause as far as I'm concerned, it's fanfic. Not to mention being inside Kurama's chakra isn't the same as Kurama's chakra being inside him, and that's how the cloak is formed. I suggest we re-read literally every chapter where a Jinchuuriki cloak appears if you want to try and logically contest this point.

This is simple shit.

No. Juugo boosted Sasuke's Susano with senjutsu.

That's exactly what I said.

What Naruto did was boost it with senjutsu along with level it up to the Susano that covered Kurama with his chakra.

Now that's fanfiction. I shouldn't have to tell you that fanfic isn't allowed in debates.

Sasuke didn't have a cloak because he was essentially connect to the power source directly.

The cloak is given to people by giving them Kurama's chakra, meaning it's in their body. Touching chakra isn't the same as taking in said chakra. So if you think that being inside Kurama's chakra is going to magically give Sasuke himself a power boost similar to the cloak, I suggest you actually prove it instead of saying shit like "simple as that" "this is simple shit" when there's no logical or canonical explanation to prove your point.

Simple as that, Naruto's chakra leveled up Susano. Unless you wanna stick with the whole coincidence thing...

Read above. Read the Manga. It literally answers all these nonsense arguments.


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So I guess your sticking with the whole coincidence bit. Whatevs, to each is own I've shown you the proof to back up my claims.

Most people on NB nowadays don't know what proof means it seems.
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I said level up not boost. Boost is what Juugo did to Sasuke's Susano, level up is what Naruto did to Sasuke's Susano along with the senjutsu, follow closely. I've had to correct you numerous times about misreading or misinterpreting my post. Leave the hypocrisy at home please.

I know what you said, and I don't really care considering it's not backed up with manga evidence.

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I'll say it again, Juugo boosted Susano with senjutsu.

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Naruto boosted it with senjutsu

Yup.

and leveled it up with his chakra.

Fanfic.

Proof of this is that his Susano ONLY changed AFTER merging with Kurama's avatar. But your gunna say that was coincidence right?

If only Sasuke himself got a boost from the chakra.

I'm enjoying this debate, sorry to hear you feel that way.

Hard to enjoy a debate when you end up saying the same thing over and over again because your opposition can't read the Manga properly.

Bruh...this is your argument



That post is filled with damn near everyone but Sasuke lol the guy your suppose to be arguing for. You literally showed scans of Madara, Tsunade talking about Madara's and his Susano, Sasuke saying that him covering Kurama just like Madara did, and Hashirama saying "that's" lol. That's supposed to be more compelling than me showing you how Sasuke's Susano reacts with the right chakra and the right amounts of chakra? I gave you scans showing every instance of when his Susano leveled up from legged to PS to bijuu Susano. But I guess that's all coincidence that every time his Susano leveled up from legged to bijuu and the different peoples chakra/amount of chakra that helped Susano level up. Panels plain as day but like I said, to each his own, believe what you want.

This is getting pretty sad. So now you've deliberately misinterpreted my argument and ignored the main point of the comparison cause once again, you know that it obliterates your argument. This is why debating with people who hold nonsense opinions like this is a waste of time. No matter what argument you throw they'll continue to deny deny and deny considering they've held their views for this long.

1. Madara states he had PS, and it's confirmed he used it at VoTE.

2. That means that

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is PS on Kurama.

3. Sasuke says he did the Same. Exact. Thing.

That means he armored PS onto Kurama. Then there's the fact that only one level of Susanoo has:

1. Samurai Shoulder Guards.

2. Tengu Nose.

3. Jewel on forehead.

That is my last time explaining it. Not gonna bother repeating myself a fourth time just to have you reply with something that either makes no sense, is irrelevant, or is just plain fanfiction.

But hey, you'll just do what you do best and ignore these 3 facts and say it was some unknown Susanoo, or say that Naruto was boosting Sasuke even though he only boosted his Susanoo. What's amazing is that you are trying to imply that scans of Sasuke using PS isn't as good an argument as your scans of his Susanoo being boosted, which is irrelevant since a boosted Susanoo=/=A new Susanoo. Lol. A large chunk of your argument has nothing to do with refuting the fact that Sasuke has PS. Showing me Hagoromo's chakra, and the Bijuu's Chakra boosting his already existing PS into a stronger PS is irrelevant as we are talking about him being able to use a normal PS on his own, not a boosted one.

This is not hard to understand.