Fixed.Lol ok so you believe that considering Naruto having Kurama's chakra and using mass Kage Bunshin with it you have come to the conclusion he isn't a hard worker, interesting.
Precisely. Took you long enough.
Fixed.Lol ok so you believe that considering Naruto having Kurama's chakra and using mass Kage Bunshin with it you have come to the conclusion he isn't a hard worker, interesting.
Lol And your thoughts on Naruto training for Sage Mode?Fixed.
Precisely. Took you long enough.
He was sitting there being lazy.Lol And your thoughts on Naruto training for Sage Mode?
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Your thoughts about him using KGs again to cut down the training time by less than half? Like I said, two sides to a picture. He is trying to learn something? Big deal. So does every single ninja. It doesn't make all of them hard-workers.Lol And your thoughts on Naruto training for Sage Mode?
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He was having a hard time learning it even with the KGs, he had to continue to grind it until he learned itfrom through hard work and perseveranceYour thoughts about him using KGs again to cut down the training time by less than half? Like I said, two sides to a picture. He is trying to learn something? Big deal. So does every single ninja. It doesn't make all of them hard-workers.
That shows a lot about his skill level then and where it lies ... right at the bottom.He was having a hard time learning it even with the KGs, he had to continue to grind it until he learned itfrom through hard work and perseverance
This isn't a discussion on his skill level though LolThat shows a lot about his skill level then and where it lies ... right at the bottom.
I replied to that specific bold. The rest has been replied to. Repeatedly.This isn't a discussion on his skill level though Lol
We were discussing his work ethic
He was born with nothing, not a clan that spoon fed him techniques and neither magic eyes that automatically give him everything.He was supposed to be someone born with nothing.
His mother had the bloodline special abilities which he did not get.He was born not only into a fantastic bloodline
That's what the entire story is about genius.but he also had Kurama inside of him not even 10 minutes after he was born.
Again the same thing, the story itself is built on kyuubi being sealed in naruto, I don't what you were paying attention to while reading but this certainly seems to have gone over your head.Some of the training he accomplished wasn't even done using his own power.For example, summoning Gamabunta. He used the Kyuubi's chakra, not his own. Defeating Tendo Pein. Again, he fell back on the Kyuubi's power (the circumstances were different, but they're both still examples).
Talent for ninjutsu? no.He always had the talent and potential. He just lacked the discipline during his initial time as a ninja
Again you show the lack of understanding of basic things, kage bunshin training doesn't reduce the amount of work put in, the only thing it reduces is amount of time required.Later, he compensated for this by exploiting Kage Bunshin's properties to learn things faster, cutting down the amount of work he had to do in the long run. While it was a logical choice given the situation, it still cut down on the very thing that makes an underdog an underdog.
Apparently not if you have Kyuubi chakra and Kage Bunshin it negates the hard work:bdpf:I think training until you collapse is hard work.
Also training all day and all night deserves merit as well.
It's sad when someone can talk so big, but still can't comprehend what an 'underdog' is.Haters stay salty because the underdog became the champion, specifically Sasuke fans.
It hasn't been debunked at all because you people are still wrong.It's been debunked so many times and shit on in so many threads, there's no point in even discussing it further.
I'm not even going to argue with an idiot, i'll just define underdog for you morons. Underdog - A competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest.The only people who deserve to be called an underdog in this story are Lee, Gai and arguably Sakura.
Hardworker and Underdog are two different things. Naruto only works hard when he needs to or when he is trying to get stronger to beat someone else i.e his FRS training to beat Sasuke and his Sage Mode training to beat Pain.
Naruto is not an underdog because he has received too many gifts and help to get to where he is.
It's sad when someone can talk so big, but still can't comprehend what an 'underdog' is.
@bold: Yes, and they are the ones who are salty when this thread has nothing to do with Sasuke or his fans. Showing how insecure you are? I think so.
It hasn't been debunked at all because you people are still wrong.
I guess you must have missed all the famous lead way opportunities that Naruto has received along the way during his lifetime.
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>If you are in trouble and some beast lends you some red chakra you are not called an underdog. That's called a cheat code.
-His battle with Neji? He purposely asked or took some of the Kyubi chakra to fight Neji. Naruto was not an underdog during that instance. And it's funny that you call Naruto an underdog when Neji was able to hold his own against Kyubi Naruto with his own powers that he learned on his own without any outside sources.
>Summoning Gambunta from the cliff when Jiraiya pushed him. Again, the Kyubi saved his ass. He did not summon that toad with his own chakra.
>His battle with Sasuke at the VoTE. Should I even explain? The dude had HELP written all over his face.
>His battle with Orochimaru. Oh yes, would an underdog be willing to let some beast fight his battles for him?
>When Pain destroyed the village and then almost killed Hinata. Oh but yes, another take over, but I guess he was supposed to be an underdog for that time period as well?
I'm tired of hearing these shitty excuses for this boy when it comes to this topic.
How are you an underdog when you already have your future laid out for you? Child of Prophecy? And you seriously think that someone who was chosen as the Child of Prophecy to be an underdog? That's laughable. Nagato is from the Uzumaki clan and he possesses the Rinnegan. That example is flawed and cannot be used.
How are you an underdog when you are a descendant of one of the Sage's children? Ashura? And you seriously think that someone who was put into a lineage of Ashura to be an underdog?
-I'm pretty sure that some clown in this thread made some excuse about him learning Rasengan on his own? Yeah, that's great. I guess since Kakashi learned Chidori on his own and even made it on his own, that he is an underdog as well right considering the fact that he was gifted an eye from Obito? Such nonsense.
Naruto received half of Hagoromos's chakra and was gifted the ability to give people right aid and even gave Kaakshi a new eye. He received 8 new Bijuu that were not even originally his. He received the ability to fly and he could use Gudodama, [Sarcasm]but all of this doesn't matter. He is still an underdog because he learned Rasengan and Sage Mode, right?[/sarcasm]
He learned Sage Mode because he was the only few who could use it. What exactly does that tell you? It means that he is special. Since when was a special person considered an underdog?
Both Naruto nor Sasuke cannot be qualified as underdogs because they were already gifted with immense power from their birth and they have received plenty of led way during their childhood, also the fact that they were chosen as Ashura and Indra's reincarnates then they are even more unqualified to be underdogs. Why exactly do you think Hashirama and Madara were so gifted in their childhood compared to everyone else? It's because they were born into special clans and they are also reincarnates of Ashura and Indra.
If you consider Naruto to be an underdog then you are just a clueless fanboy and you don't even read the manga nor do you know what an actual underdog is.
Funny because you Naruto fanboys still can't prove how he was. Until you can, sit down and shut up.Only uchiha wankers say that, naruto was truly an underdog.
Because you have nothing to argue with. What's the matter? Did my post make you run rampant on your insecurities again?I'm not even going to argue with an idiot,
Would someone who was born with monstrous chakra have little chances of winning?i'll just define underdog for you morons. Underdog - A competitor thought to have little chance of winning a fight or contest.
He's not an underdog and by the end of the series it got even worse. Stop throwing this word around as if you know what it means.Naruto was indeed an underdog, however by the end he became a renowed Hero/Champion.
Perfect Example of Underdog: Naruto vs Neji, everyone thought he was going to lose, he proved them all wrong. I literally posted the definition of underdog, its not my fault you morons can't comprehend its meaning. You uchiha faptards are known to defy mangafacts, but to defy a word and its definition is beyond delusional. Stay RustledFunny because you Naruto fanboys still can't prove how he was. Until you can, sit down and shut up.
Because you have nothing to argue with. What's the matter? Did my post make you run rampant on your insecurities again?
Would someone who was born with monstrous chakra have little chances of winning?
Would someone who was born with a beast inside of himm digging him out of desperate situations have little chances of winning?
Would someone who has been chosen as the Child of prophecy have little chances of winning?
Would someone who was said to be a transmigrant of Ashura declared of having little chances of winning?
Would someone who received half of Hagoromo's chakra have little chances of winning?
So, you throw me a definition of the word 'underdog' and you can't even understand the meaning behind it? You're a joke and looking more like a joke each time you post.
He's not an underdog and by the end of the series it got even worse. Stop throwing this word around as if you know what it means.
Only Lee and Sakura are the underdogs of this series. Deal with it fapboy.
Are you slow?He didnt even beat him on his own strength.He relied on Kyuubi's chakra as a boost to win.Neji as a genius used to train hard and he was not beaten by Naruto on his own strength.He used Kurama chakra as a shortcut to win.In a way it negated all of the training Neji did as he did not have a deus ex machina helping him in such situationsPerfect Example of Underdog: Naruto vs Neji, everyone thought he was going to lose, he proved them all wrong. I literally posted the definition of underdog, its not my fault you morons can't comprehend its meaning. You uchiha faptards are known to defy mangafacts, but to defy a word and its definition is beyond delusional. Stay Rustled![]()
Regardless, everyone was betting on him to lose, that makes him the underdog. You faptards are relentless.Are you slow?He didnt even beat him on his own strength.He relied on Kyuubi's chakra as a boost to win.Neji as a genius used to train hard and he was not beaten by Naruto on his own strength.He used Kurama chakra as a shortcut to win.In a way it negated all of the training Neji did as he did not have a deus ex machina helping him in such situations
Initial Jinchuriki mode Naruto threw the concept of underdog out of the windows as with it he could pretty much solo nearly everyone
A guy having a booster he can rely on to solo everyone isnt an underdog just because he was shit without it