[Discussion] Cavendish(no Hakuba) vs Gladius

[Uzumaki Macho]

I think that Gladius would win since he would have beaten Cavendish if Barto didn't interfere, but several people still think Cavendish is stronger

 

[chopstickchakra]

I think that Gladius would win since he would have beaten Cavendish if Barto didn't interfere, but several people still think Cavendish is stronger

For once I agree with you about who Gladius could beat. I think people got way too on board the Cavendish bandwagon.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

For once I agree with you about who Gladius could beat. I think people got way too on board the Cavendish bandwagon.

The Cavendish fanbase used to be pretty bad, but now that any chance of Trebol vs Cavendish happening has been destroyed, they have died down.

 

[chopstickchakra]

The Cavendish fanbase used to be pretty bad, but now that any chance of Trebol vs Cavendish happening has been destroyed, they have died down.

Yeah they were out of control, saying he'd beat Zoro or Chinjao despite Chinjao's old mis-shappen head bending his legendary sword with no Haki.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Yeah they were out of control, saying he'd beat Zoro or Chinjao despite Chinjao's old mis-shappen head bending his legendary sword with no Haki.

Wait, do you mean they said Hakuba could beat Zoro? Because saying base Cavendish could beat him is just insane. Zoro mid diffs Hakuba and very low diffs Cavendish.

 

[Hexuze]

Cavendish high-extreme diff., besides that's pretty stupid to restrict Hakuba. You scared? lol

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Cavendish high-extreme diff., besides that's pretty stupid to restrict Hakuba. You scared? lol

Any evidence that Cavendish could win a fight against a guy he was losing to? Hakuba and Cavendish are different entities so I don't see any problem with restricting Hakuba.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Wait, do you mean they said Hakuba could beat Zoro? Because saying base Cavendish could beat him is just insane. Zoro mid diffs Hakuba and very low diffs Cavendish.

They just sad Cavendish but I think they just attribute Hakuba's skill to him as if he can freely control Hakuba already and jump between persona as needed.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Cavendish high-extreme diff., besides that's pretty stupid to restrict Hakuba. You scared? lol

Still waiting for a reason for why Cavendish wins.

 

[OG sama]

Gladius wins. If Cavendish is indeed stronger than the man who took a jet stamp and kept going like that then Hakuba has to be even stronger than Doflamingo. And that sounds really unreasonable considering Cavendish showed nothing portraying him to be ahead of Gladius.

Hakuba being > Gladius is more reasonable. But not Cabbage alone.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Hey Corazon, I'm still waiting for a reason for why Cavendish wins.

 

[xanonymosx]

well if bart wasnt there cavendish would have died t but gladius only got the time to perform his punk fist somthing cause cav was distracted if it`s i vs 1 things would be different, cav shares the same body with hakuba so there is no reason to think he is not fast if not as fast so i dont think galdius would get the time to blow up such a huge space but if he does there will be no more cavendish so i think it could go either way

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

well if bart wasnt there cavendish would have died t but gladius only got the time to perform his punk fist somthing cause cav was distracted if it`s i vs 1 things would be different, cav shares the same body with hakuba so there is no reason to think he is not fast if not as fast so i dont think galdius would get the time to blow up such a huge space but if he does there will be no more cavendish so i think it could go either way

Everything you said about Cavendish can be easily refuted with scans, but I'm on my phone right now so you'll have to wait.

 

[xanonymosx]

Everything you said about Cavendish can be easily refuted with scans, but I'm on my phone right now so you'll have to wait.

i am waiting

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Gladius by feats is a decent a step ahead of cavendish a I feel same about barto as well despite his comic role

It mind baffles me why gladius wasn't executive

 

[Bogard]

Cavendish will defeat Gladius. Bartolomeo could and Cavendish is portrayed to be at least as strong if not stronger than him. Because he never got the chance to go all out on him doesn't mean he couldn't

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Cavendish will defeat Gladius. Bartolomeo could and Cavendish is portrayed to be at least as strong if not stronger than him. Because he never got the chance to go all out on him doesn't mean he couldn't

No Bartolomeo is portrayed as superior. No proof that Cavendish wasn't going all out against Gladius.

 

[Bogard]

No Bartolomeo is portrayed as superior. No proof that Cavendish wasn't going all out against Gladius.

No proof that he was

1- Bartolomeo himself admit not to be strong enough when Cavendish has monster trio level physical strength(could match Chinjao)
2- Cavendish has parallels of strength with Luffy(Chinjao or against the hill that he cut him half when Luffy was doing his gatling move) when Bartolomeo was never put in the same light
3- Cavendish hunt down worse generation when Bartolomeo hunts down Cavendish for attacking his sempai and despise him heavily
4- Bartolomeo is a 1year old supernova when Cavendish is a 3years old supernova
5- Cavendish has a much higher bounty(by far)

Cavendish >= Bartolomeo by being extremely generous

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

No proof that he was

1- Bartolomeo himself admit not to be strong enough when Cavendish has monster trio level physical strength(could match Chinjao)
2- Cavendish has parallels of strength with Luffy(Chinjao or against the hill that he cut him half when Luffy was doing his gatling move) when Bartolomeo was never put in the same light
3- Cavendish hunt down worse generation when Bartolomeo hunts down Cavendish for attacking his sempai and despise him heavily
4- Bartolomeo is a 1year old supernova when Cavendish is a 3years old supernova
5- Cavendish has a much higher bounty(by far)

Cavendish >= Bartolomeo by being extremely generous

The burden of proof lies on him to prove he wasn't going all out.

1. Chinjao wasnt even using Hasshoken or Koka and he isn't M3 level. Bartolomeo was being modest
2. Doesn't mean he's on Luffy's level.
3. So?
4. So?
5. Robin has a higher bounty than Sanji so she must be stronger than him.

Barto beats Cavendish high diff and that's being generous.

 

[Hexuze]

Any evidence that Cavendish could win a fight against a guy he was losing to? Hakuba and Cavendish are different entities so I don't see any problem with restricting Hakuba.

He showed better feats such as fending off Chinjao's attacks and the other feats I listed in other thread where we discussed this Cavendish vs Gladius debate. Did you change the title of the thread? O_O Or... you could of created two different scenarios? All Gladius has over Cavendish is destructive feats. really. Cavendish outclasses him in speed & physical strength & reaction speed.