TOP 5 strongest HST Characters.

[LuckyMan]

- You have no proof Yamamoto defeated Yhwach by himself

Everything in the manga implies it. Yama stated he would kill every Quincy himself.

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If he needed help or had extra help when he defeated Yhwach 1000 years ago he wouldn't make such a statement and be confident that not only he can defeat Yhwach but his entire Quincy army by himself.

- Ichibē is the man who created the names, Bankai , Shikai, and Zanpakuto , he wasn't even in the gotei 13, also manga says "the power of the zero division is far greater than the gotei 13 "

All members of the Royal Guard were captains before.

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The manga says their total power is greater than the Gotei 13, meaning all 5 of them together, not a single one.

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Being a Royal Guard doesn't automatically make you stronger. They're not even recruited based on power, but the significant contributions they've made to the world. Kirio Hikifune was the former captain of the 12th division but got promoted to RG status because of her creation of the artificial soul. That doesn't automatically make her more powerful than the other captains because she was still below Yamamoto when she was a captain in Gotei 13. If Isshin Kurosaki (Ichigos father, former 10th division captain) created something important to the world and got RG status, does that means hes automatically stronger than all other captains? No.

Also, that statement about the RG hype of being stronger than the Gotei 13 was made before the power spike they just got in this final arc so thats totally false now because the same RG that were steamrolled by the Quincy are about to get steamrolled by the captains (Byakuya, Shinji, Kenpachi, Soifon etc.) on their way to fight with their new powers.

Yamamoto's Shikai was ineffective, and he activated Bankai against Royd

No ones taking about Shikai though.

Base Ichibei was smacking YHWACH around before he decided to use Shikai

Doesn't mean Bankai Yamamoto won't smack Yhwach around.

Yhwach stole Yamamoto's Bankai. Yhwach failed to steal Ichibei's Shikai with sankt altar, you clearly didn't know what I mean

Except he did take Ichibeis power, its just couldn't become his (Yhwach's) and Ichibei took it back.

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Royd's Blut vene was capable of saving him from the ZnT heat
Ichibei destroyed yhwach's Blut vene anhaban with one hand , implying that his durability is > Sternritter Y Durability and thus he can survive the heat

Except nothing implies Royds Blunt Vene is weaker than Yhwachs. Thats an assumption you made because Yhwach is the strongest Quincy but you have no evidence its true because their powers can vary. If I said Yamamoto has the fastest Zanpakto just because hes the strongest captain it would be wrong because Gin's is the fastest.

Ichimonji can Manipulate the black in different dimensions , times, whether you are dead or alive , shinigami or quincy , clothes , animals, it would control the black on you and seal you away and erase your name , like what happened with yhwach .

Assuming Yamamotos flames won't counter this effect.

ichibei is the last wall before the soul king himself , yhwach himself admit that he is the head of the shinigami Yamamoto would lose against him , by feats and hype

Doesn't mean hes the strongest now does it? Also, Yamas hype is greater than Ichibeis and I disagree, Yama wouldn't lose.

 

[KingHashirama]

KH stop talking like you know Bleach. Bach then was as strong as Ryod Ryod, comparing the Bach Yama kill to the one who fought Ichibe is stupid.

BM Naruto>Anyone in Bleach.

You can't see them without reitsu. smart one.


-sigh-. Those who are still in the first couple of chapters have this much knowledge.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Cringe Worthy list.

1.Bach should not be used in any lists until the extent of his abilities are clarified. His position is clearly due to the no limits fallacy, when we know full well, that there's going to be limits to his power, otherwise, the manga would have the terrible end of the villain winning, and we know that's not happening. Just like his subordinates, his powers appear invincible because it's not his time to loose. Just like them, we'll see the drawbacks and how he can be beat once it's his time to loose to the protagonists. This is a rehash of Nodt and Gremmy.


2. This is the prime example of why such a list is dumb. Kaguya is by far, the strongest in this group. Also, contrary to popular belief, Kaguya's not an idiot. She has demonstrated tactical thinking and planning before. Kaguya being stupid is a dumb myth probably started by angry Madara fanboys to compensate for the fact that he was surpassed in strength.

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Kaguya was actually baiting Naruto, and wan't falling for a disguise. Like Madara, Kaguya couldn't cope with the teamwork of Naruto and Sasuke (but she had Kakshi to deal with as well)



3. Another terrible choice. Naruto, Madara, Sasuke, DMS Kakashi, JJ Obito, all crap on him (and I can make arguments for others). If we're holding so tightly to hype, Yamamoto's shikai's hype really isn't greater than amaterasu. Let me point a tinny little detail out. They never specified which part of the sun. Lighting is hotter than the surface of the sun, so if they're talking about=surface heat, it's not exactly impressive. It's not like he has the power of a star, that's absurd, and obviously false.


4. Yeah........ Hagoromo should have been second to Kaguya. He had 6 paths senjutsu, and the juubi on top of it, all enhancing his rinnegan, which grants him Graity control, energy absorption (not limited to chakra as natural energy can be absorbed as well), turning his body into war devices, summoning animals with shared vision, soul removal, and soul consumption/reviving (hell path). In addition, he has his tools, which includes haxed sealing abilities, like the pot that seals whoever responds to his/her name being called. You're telling me this guy is below Bach and Yamamoto? Don't make me laugh.


5. Ahem, Limbo says hi, and Rikkudo senjutsu enhanced rinnegan powers also says hi, but Naruto and Sasuke are stronger than him anyway, so they say hi as well.

 

[Mugen Onsa]

Crappy list, but at least Ichibe and Yama-ji were far more interesting characters than Kaguya and Naruto.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Lol the amount of Bleach cancer in this thread.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

You can't see them without reitsu. smart one.


-sigh-. Those who are still in the first couple of chapters have this much knowledge.

Unfortunately for those that defend Bleach with this sort of argument trying to avoid their inferiority in firepower, reiatsu is not some sort of concept unique to the Bleach verse. Reiatsu is "spiritual pressure" which is merely the pressure/intensity of the spiritual energy. In other words, reiatsu is simply intensity of spiritual energy, and spiritual energy is not unique to Bleach. (it's in quite a few shonen). Spritual energy is a component for chakra, so all ninjas in Naruto obviously have a spiritual pressure beyond the average human. Everyone in Naruto falls under the category for seeing shinigami by Bleach's own rules.


Source, the Bleach wiki.

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[-Akuma-]

You can't see them without reitsu. smart one.


-sigh-. Those who are still in the first couple of chapters have this much knowledge.

*Sigh* This point has been addressed and usually for cross verse battles energies are equal aswell....KH hold this L

 

[RustledJimmies]

Lol just noticed that OP said that Madara's a planet buster, lol gtfoh.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, OP reminds me why I hate Bleach fapboys.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lol, OP reminds me why I hate Bleach fapboys.

How does Naruto characters get past Yhwach ability?​

 

[-Akuma-]

How does Naruto characters get past Yhwach ability?​

Blowing him up....

 

[TRE MERCER]

Blowing him up....

With a Bijuudama? No once he see's it it's useless plus he can explode his opponents bodies with pure sight as what we seen with Ichibei plus he stole Yamamoto Bankai which means Bijuudama's can be turned into ash before they even come close to him.​

 

[-Akuma-]

With a Bijuudama? No once he see's it it's useless plus he can explode his opponents bodies with pure sight as what we seen with Ichibei plus he stole Yamamoto Bankai which means Bijuudama's can be turned into ash before they even come close to him.​

You do realise all his ability does is allow him to see the future, if he can counter it with something in his arsenal it's not useless when he sees it. BM Naruto is small county level, have fun blocking that with a city level bankai.

 

[TRE MERCER]

You do realise all his ability does is allow him to see the future, if he can counter it with something in his arsenal it's not useless when he sees it. BM Naruto is small county level, have fun blocking that with a city level bankai.

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These scans beg to differ with bold. He doesn't need to have an ability to counter it the fact that he seen the ability or knows of the ability means it's already countered and useless.​

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

He won't live to see Kakashi's Kamui more than once, so it's fine.

 

[DMT]

How does Naruto characters get past Yhwach ability?​

you are asking this question in the NB site which is full of naruto's fanboys / wankers


seems legit

 

[TRE MERCER]

He won't live to see Kakashi's Kamui more than once, so it's fine.

He'll see Kakashi Kamui before it happens therefore it's useless plus he absorbed Mimihagi who can travel through dimension like nothing so getting Kamui'ed would be useless.

Ywach>Kaguya.​

 

[DemonicAvenger]

As verses

Naruto >>> Bleach > One Piece

The only reason Naruto has such a large gap is because their High, Top, and God Tiers are extremely powerful. Quite a few characters in Naruto can solo the other verses as a whole (Kaguya, Hagromo, JJ Madara, JJ Obito, RSBM Naruto, R. Sasuke are the ones I can name off the top of my head). Their Top Tiers (BSM Naruto, RT Madara, BM Minato, Hashirama, VOTE Madara, ect.) are stronger than any individual from the other verses (FGT Ichigo is pretty much a BM Naruto level fighter, except slower)

Naruto characters usually have a lot of hax and extremely powerful energy projection attacks. The other verses don't even come close to comparing in DC (ranging from Moutain-Island in Top Tier and Multi-Island to Dimension level for God) or Spe. Defense (Energy barriers like Susano'O or Gaara's Sand). They also got a lot faster than the other verses later in the War Arc. With good physical stats

Bleach characters have a lot of hax and decent, powerful for Top and God Tiers, energy projection attacks. The Top and God Tiers have shown Good Destructive capacity and speed, though they just don't have any powerful defenses or really good durability feats. They do have good physical stats though.

One Piece on the other hand usually has a good amount of hax (Logias and DF's) and amazing physical stats (They crush the other two verse's on average in physical strength and durability. Only the Upper Echelon of the other two verses compare in physical stats to One Piece. Pre-Skip Zoro was confirmed be far physically stronger than SM Naruto im pretty sure) Though this is usually the reason OP characters get wrecked in Multi-Verse fights against the other two verses, since they usually stick to "hand to hand fighting" they're having a hard time getting into the realm that the other two are in.


Having Said all this

1.) Kaguya
2.) JJ Hagromo
3.) JJ Madara [2 Rinnegan/Sharinnegan]
4.) Naruto
5.) Sasuke

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[Sennin of Logic]

you are asking this question in the NB site which is full of naruto's fanboys / wankers


seems legit

Yet, you 2 are the ones clearly fanboying/wanking to an absurd degree by applying the nonsensical no limits fallacy. You take an ability that has an OP special effect, and assume it's without bound. By the absurd logic that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING Ymach sees in the future becomes useless, then he can neg Phoenix, who can freaking destroy the universe! After all, there's no stated limit to this ability right?


The simple matter of the fact is, Bach was nearly killed, even with this power once, and there isn't a thing in the Bleach verse comparable to the Rikkudo characters in the Naruto manga so far.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yet, you 2 are the ones clearly fanboying/wanking to an absurd degree by applying the nonsensical no limits fallacy. You take an ability that has an OP special effect, and assume it's without bound. By the absurd logic that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING Ymach sees in the future becomes useless, then he can neg Phoenix, who can freaking destroy the universe! After all, there's no stated limit to this ability right?


The simple matter of the fact is, Bach was nearly killed, even with this power once, and there isn't a thing in the Bleach verse comparable to the Rikkudo characters in the Naruto manga so far.

He was sealed plus current Bach is tiers above that Bach why because he has the power of the only person that could test him back then and plus he just absorbed Mimihagi who is a god. ​