Kakashi was definitely wrong about Naruto's growth rate

[End of Days]

You Naruto fans get rustled too easily. I wasn't trying to bash him any way whatsoever. My point is that Kakashi was in fact wrong and Naruto ended up getting massively more powerful throughout the War Arc which only lasted a couple of days at the very most. My point is that Naruto is the main character unlike what Kakashi said and that Naruto has the capacity to get stronger overnight.

War arc is an extension of what he has been doing, bijuu dama is just a huge rasengan which he has been doing since 12, BSM is sage mode extension, FRS etc.

Its a culmination of different training he put in different periods of times, you put all those together its going to look like a lot.

 

[Icelerate]

War arc is an extension of what he has been doing, bijuu dama is just a huge rasengan which he has been doing since 12, BSM is sage mode extension, FRS etc.

Its a culmination of different training he put in different periods of times, you put all those together its going to look like a lot.

It still doesn't change the fact that the Sage buffed Naruto and Sasuke to become much more powerful than they were before whereas Kakashi said that isn't possible.

 

[iNotorious]

War arc is an extension of what he has been doing, bijuu dama is just a huge rasengan which he has been doing since 12, BSM is sage mode extension, FRS etc.

Its a culmination of different training he put in different periods of times, you put all those together its going to look like a lot.

*Besides TSO/B.

 

[Amaterasu]

OP, please, just read the manga

 

[Narutohokage324]

It still doesn't change the fact that the Sage buffed Naruto and Sasuke to become much more powerful than they were before whereas Kakashi said that isn't possible.

Who would of believed that? I do not even think Kishimoto knew how OP he was going to make them at that point. This was before the Rinnegan was even shown, back when techniques actually had DRAWBACKS.

 

[Icelerate]

Who would of believed that? I do not even think Kishimoto knew how OP he was going to make them at that point. This was before the Rinnegan was even shown, back when techniques actually had DRAWBACKS.

True, realistically speaking, Kakashi was right but in actuality, he was incorrect.

 

[Narutohokage324]

True, realistically speaking, Kakashi was right but in actuality, he was incorrect.

Kishimoto could not control his wank, I mean pen, he should of made their current power ups temporary.

EMS Sasuke (PS) vs BM Naruto would have been way more interesting and moderate (at least for their levels).

But dropping meteors is cool now

 

[Icelerate]

Kishimoto could not control his wank, I mean pen, he should of made their current power ups temporary.

EMS Sasuke (PS) vs BM Naruto would have been way more interesting and moderate (at least for their levels).

But dropping meteors is cool now

I thought you preferred them to be way above the rest. I don't have much of a problem with it but the manga was rushed.

 

[Sageflash]

Naruto never got stronger overnight. If you're referring to his SM being upgraded in the War, you get better with everything in life after using it more and more. He was fully adjusting to the power and enhancements of Sage Mode and upping his capacity in all areas. Makes perfect sense.

Honestly, Naruto's free power ups only include Bijuu mode and Rikudo mode. Everything prior, and I do mean everything, he had to work his butt off for.

Sasuke, on the other hand, got handed the Sharingan, Curse Seal, MS/EMS, and the Rennigan.

Exactly this, however Bijuu Mode was not free. Naruto fought Rinnegan Tobi and all the Bijuu with his life on the line, as well as fairly earned the trust of the Tailed Beasts with purity of his heart and actions. He may not have had to train in the traditional sense like he did for everything else, but BM certainly didn't pop out of nowhere like Legged Susano'o or swapping eyeballs.

Whereas Sasuke worked only for Chidori. CS/2, MS, EMS, Susano'o upgrades, Rinnegan, Senjutsu, everything he acquired in Shippuden was handed to him by another. Sasuke was the one getting main character rights from the get-go.

 

[Xlad]

Wait, so this isn't a bait thread? I'm confused as ****.

If so, Kakashi was correct. The whole "main character" bit was just breaking the fourth wall.

 

[Shruikan]

What's especially funny is that for a "non genius" type of guy he mastered Sage Mode in like a week for which Jiraiya still couldn't perfect in his entire life time and Orochimaru a genius could never learn it in the first place.That sounds like natural talent to me Lol

 

[Narutohokage324]

I thought you preferred them to be way above the rest. I don't have much of a problem with it but the manga was rushed.

Not at all. The whole ending would have been better if the other characters were at least a level or two below them. No one in the K11 can match them outside of Lee, and that still gets stomped with a SM Naruto up to 6th Gate. I hate the sole fact that no one can keep up with Naruto/Sasuke.

Pretty much the Z warriors without Sayians are shit. <-- -Example

 

[Rikodou Mode]

nah kakashi just forgot that narto had an infinite amount of chackra inside his belly ....
or he thought that naruto is too stupid to control the kyuubi so he discarded him from naruto`s potential :|
either way if you took kyuubi outof the equation you would find that kakashi wasnt wrong about naruto`s growth rate

Not only that but he also thought Naruto's chakra reserves were because of Kurama when we know it was from his Uzumaki and Ashura lineage

 

[dark legion]

You Naruto fans get rustled too easily. I wasn't trying to bash him any way whatsoever. My point is that Kakashi was in fact wrong and Naruto ended up getting massively more powerful throughout the War Arc which only lasted a couple of days at the very most. My point is that Naruto is the main character unlike what Kakashi said and that Naruto has the capacity to get stronger overnight.

Well , I'm sure that Kakashi at that Time didn't know anything about Rikudou reincarnation , Kaguya , and other stuff that happened at last Arc !

 

[Narutohokage324]

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[Shruikan]

The moment the "child of prophecy" BS began entire power scaling was just thrown out of the window.It all became destiny crap and powerups here and there and a jesus complex for Naruto

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Honestly, Naruto's free power ups only include Bijuu mode and Rikudo mode. Everything prior, and I do mean everything, he had to work his butt off for.

Sasuke, on the other hand, got handed the Sharingan, Curse Seal, MS/EMS, and the Rennigan.

Bijuu mode wasn't free, he had to learn Sage Mode to tame Kurama and he needed Killer B's help.
He then had to convince Kurama to share his chakra by fighting Obito without his reliance

Sasuke had to learn how to control CS before using it, his Indra lineage made it easier to control Senjutsu logically because Indra inherited Hago's Rikudou chakra.

MS was never a free power up, he risked his life with Orochimaru, fought Itachi and learned the truh about his family without turning into a psychopath. EMS was given to him after excessively using Susanoo and MS jutsu to the point he was blind, not to mention the number of times he almost died in order to strengthen his dojutsu abilities.

Hagoromo's chakra was given to both of them when they were on the verge of death. So no, it isn't a free power-up because it took them 16 years of near death experiences to even be worthy of meeting the great Sage.

Nothing was free. U_U

 

[Kakooli]

Read chapter 699 and the manga in general. Naruto isn't the main character, Sasuke is.

 

[Shruikan]

Bijuu mode wasn't free, he had to learn Sage Mode to tame Kurama and he needed Killer B's help.
He then had to convince Kurama to share his chakra by fighting Obito without his reliance

Sasuke had to learn how to control CS before using it, his Indra lineage made it easier to control Senjutsu logically because Indra inherited Hago's Rikudou chakra.

MS was never a free power up, he risked his life with Orochimaru, fought Itachi and learned the truh about his family without turning into a psychopath. EMS was given to him after excessively using Susanoo and MS jutsu to the point he was blind, not to mention the number of times he almost died in order to strengthen his dojutsu abilities.

Hagoromo's chakra was given to both of them when they were on the verge of death. So no, it isn't a free power-up because it took them 16 years of near death experiences to even be worthy of meeting the great Sage.

Nothing was free. U_U

Logical post +rep
People also forget that the curse seal was just as dangerous to Sasuke's body as the Kyuubi mode was to Naruto's .Therefore neither was easy

 

[Chaosmark101]

...learned the truth about his family without turning into a psychopath.

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