40 meters should give Zabuza enough time to at least jump to the side/out of the way. The issue with that scan is Deva wasn't even going to try and dodge, he just stood still and ST'd it, so it's hard to compare a reaction feat for it.
when you look closely at the scan one can see that Beast runner closed mid range in one panel, Deva probably was forced to use S/T because the lightning dog appeared nearly instantly in front of him him.
Then the dog uses a zig-zag course to dodge attacks and making itself harder to dodge.
Zabuza lacks the speed feats to sidestep a jutsu of that level and even if, the zig zag course drives beast runner into him. only my opinion
Potentially, though Kakashi decided against this strategy two different times against Zabuza, so I'm not sure how effective it would be. The nindogs seem to need some kind of scent to go off of first.
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Pakkun was able to locate enemies without knowing their scent.
Kakashi has to be careful with that though, in case Zabuza is using a clone or multiple clones. Not to mention even if a clone did find the real Zabuza, he doesn't have to stay stationary. He can move around silently and Kakashi's intel and chakra will have gone to waste. Kakashi fooled people like Nagato by hiding in rubble. There's no rubble to hide in here, and again, Zabuza has shown he can track Kakashi's use of bunshins. Maybe in a scenario where he knocks Kakashi in to the water and Kakashi switches out then, he could pull something off, but it would be hard to do just standing in the mist.
Actually Kakashi hid from deva also underground and was first noticed when he broke out of the earth, without the rubble he was able to "fool" him, too.
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but you are right this is no effective way of fighting Zabuza in the mist, it would only be a waste of chakra.
With no intel, it's hard to say if Kakashi would or wouldn't attack with just clones here. Just like vs Kakuzu, he might think he has the fight won so long as he can get the stab in. Pretty similar situation here.
Against Kakuzu he had his sharingan and was with team 10 there, this make it different.
Choza said that it is a kind of habit that Kakashi usually send a clone in first to check the opponents abilities.
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I don't know why he didnt use clone feints against Kakuzu, he also didnt use Hiding like a mole to dodge the fire wind combo in their fight in manga. He also didn't use sharingan genjutsu even though this would have been a very good idea against Kakuzu or hidan.
imo kishi shat at his skills, however it was a very cool fight, especially in the anime.
And it's important to note that while Kakashi's chakra reserves are significantly better in the war-arc than the past, and the sharingan not draining him makes it even better, he can't make unlimited amounts of clones. They still split his chakra, especially the raiton clones. He's not extremely limited like he used to be, but he's not Naruto in terms of chakra. He still needs to be a little careful.
He won't use many clones, 1 clone is enough to fight hidan while to original hides underground.
Kakashis clone is able to fight with a raiton kunai against hidans scythe, maybe break it with it, or cut the rope to downgrade hidans fighting style.
There is also the possibility of throwing multiple raiton kunais, we know that Kakashi is able to aim perfectly with a kunai + throw it very fast and powerful. There is a high chance that he would hit a vital point of hidan and after noticing that he didnt die, vanishing so the intel and chakra goes back to the original who stayed underground, he would send a raiton kage bun shin out, who will get hit on purpose and after that fragment him to peaces with raikiri.
Hiruzen has knowledge of and can use every single technique in Konoha, and he's actually shown the ability to be able to sniff out multiple opponents at the same time when he was in the Bringer of Darkness technique, so he would likely be able to tell there's multiple Kakashis due to that.
His sense of smell won't work through the layer of earth . It only worked because the enemies were directly next to him.
In regards to Kakashi sneaking up on him with hiding like a mole, that doesn't work on high level opponents, as Itachi and Nagato both noted by being able to react each time. I know those were both "set up" techniques, but Kakashi's never shown the ability to actually defeat someone using that, except for Sasuke as a genin.
Itachi and Nagato both were able to react to him due to their dojutsus (itachi->precognition,Pein->ST), i don't see old hiruzen doing the same.
30%Itachi was defeated due to a clone feint in combination with doton hiding like amole.
Pain would have been defeated by hiding like amole in combination with clone feints if choza and choji hadn't interfered.
It's also important to remember that they're fighting right next to water. The second Kakashi goes underground(if Hiruzen sees it), he can move to water. Or if he does it once and Hiruzen wants to avoid it happening again, he moves to the water.
Hiruzens starts with his shrunken kage bunhsin no jutsu and kakashi counters it with mud wall.
Behind the mud wall he would switch with a clone without hiruzen noticing it
Kakashi is also able to move very fast under water, shown against itachi when he was about to pull him underwater, but then instantly appeared under kurenai, to save her.
Itachi was even surprised (exclamation mark) when he noticed Kakashis hand almost grabbing his feet.
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Another added asset to Hiruzen is he can tell what attack his opponent is going to use by just reading the handsigns, similar to a sharingan user. So anything Kakashi uses is getting countered or thrown back at him.
can you prove that with a manga fact please ?
What about beast runner ? hiruzen doesn't know about that and it requires no hand seals, fuutons which are fired to destroy the dog are dodged by its zig-zag course. The jutsus itself may be to fast for hiruzen.
I question how badly the electricity would effect Enma's diamond-hard skin, but who knows.
When enma is in its true form he has diamond skin ?
When he is in his staff form he may be prone to raikiri used by a clone since raikiri cut through domu the ,diamond skin.
Hiruzen has also shown to have the CQC ability to not only fight off Orochimaru with Kusanagi, but also maneuver and land explosive tags fighting both Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time, without them or Orochimaru ever actually noticing.
Hiruzen is vey good in taijutsu, but Kakashi is able to open the first gate of hachimon which allows him to keep up with him, let alone his speed and strength which would be powered, too.
