Sasuke's Rinnegan

[Mikeuhsomething36]

There have been multiple misconceptions about Sasuke's rinnegan that just need to be cleared up, since members seem to go on half based logic on this.

1 misconception: Sasuke's rinnegan was only possible by hashirama's cells, then hagoromo's chakra morphed this.

Correction: By what logic? all Kabuto did was heal sasuke via hashirama's cells, that does mean he implanted them inside him, with that logic, kakashi has Rikoudo chakra because Naruto used yang seal to give him a new eye, rikoudo eye kakashi confirmed right? No...that's just weird logic. Sasuke's rinnegan was made by the overwhelming amount of yin he received by having both indra and hagoromo's chakra. and if he did awaken it from hagoromo he should have a rinnegan in both eyes while the left one is tomoe'd and not just one being tomoe'd to further the point sasuke does not have that hashi wood madara craves.

2 misconception: You need yin and yang to obtain the rinnegan

Correction: You need Ashura's and Indra's chakra to obtain the rinnegan, but people forget a little tid bit, the reason you need ashura's and Indra's chakra for the rinnegan is because they give birth to HAGOROMO'S chakra, oh i'm sorry what did sasuke directly get? HAGOROMO'S chakra. the rinnegan is yin and sasuke has the yin of Indra and Hagoromo giving birth to the tomoe rinnegan by why is it tomoe'd? think about it Indra is the progenitor of the sharnningan (not counting kaguya with the rinne sharnningan) and hagoromo is the progenitor of the rinnegan (not counting kaguya with the rinne sharnningan), sasuke basically has the powers of two progenitors in one giving birth to the tomoe rinnegan. Hagoromo himself stated it was his chakra that fostered the rinnegan that madara got by mixing ashura's and Indra's chakra

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and as hagoromo said the children are not always as strong as the parents noted as how indra may have gained hagoromo's "eyes" but he didn't obtain his rinnegan instead he obtained his grand mother kaguya's sharnningan as grand parents can pass genes through their children as well. Sasuke fits the criteria of having Hagoromo's chakra o get the rinnegan but sasuke bashers overlook this because reasons???

3 misconception: Sasuke's rinnegan is weaker than two rinnegan

Correction: By what given evidence????? was Hagoromo not surprised when Sasuke put the bijuu under his control with merely a glance?

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He, who is a god in his own right has not shown to be surprised at anything until sasuke had done something, putting sasuke's rinnegan above the regular rinnegan, why? because not only can he use the abilities of the rinnegan already but he can use his own sharnningan abilities on top of that easily putting it above the regular rinnegan. the reason for this is due to hagoromo's yin and indra's yin mixing together, two prgenitors, so you could say sasuke has a type of Mankeyou Rinnegan (MR) as it has tomoe just like kaguya's rinne sharnningan and there's only one of it like kaguya's rinne sharnningan and like the juubi rinne sharnningan, sasuke has 6 tomoe but like a rinnegan it's in his eye socket and it's purple. Sasuke's rinnegan is unique and about as close to a rinne sharnningan as anyone is getting. Oh ik people will bring up Madara's feats, no, Madara was a juubi jin, he had WAY more chakra than sasuke to perform those big feats, take shinju and juunbi away but Madara still has Double rinnegan then lets see how "well" madara keeps up or outdoes rinnegan sasuke, I thought so. people will say no because hagoromo, AGAIN, Hagoromo had an ENORMOUS amount of chakra to compensate to make his techniques on such a grand scale, rinnegan is yin and sasuke has hagoromo's yin AND Indra's chakra think about that. Further proof? despite having Hagoromo's chakra the tomoe rinnegan was STILL chakra taxing to wield, sasuke had to even down grade his EMS to regular three o compensate even WITH Half of hagoromo's chakra. Rinne sharnningan>Tomoe Rinnegan>Regular rinnegan.

4 misconception: Sasuke's rinnegan can perform all MS techs

Correction: Those are fanfics though Sasuke may have the POTENTIAL it was never stated that he can, even with having the next best eye next only o the rinne sharnningan I wouldn't say sasuke could do all that, albeit they are fanfics until kishi says otherwise, feel free to use them as POTENTIAL powers but not facts.



I hope this clean up the misconceptions about sasuke's rinnegan, if there's anymore pls let me know and I will address them, things such as Sasuke not being able to use all six paths is negligible, those that say such a thing are ignorant or bashers Thanks for reading.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Sasuke rinnegan is never stated to be stronger than Hagoromo´s or Madara´s .

There also isnt statement that his rinnegan have power of 2 rinnegans.

 

[Narutohokage324]

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[BLAZE]

disagreed on few agreed on most

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

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There are splits and idents between each paragraph a wall of text would imply I had no breaks and wrote this all in one conjoined post. which I didn't so this doesn't even qualify as a wall of text.

 

[Im Still Robin]

I'm not reading this shit :|

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Sasuke rinnegan is never stated to be stronger than Hagoromo´s or Madara´s .

There also isnt statement that his rinnegan have power of 2 rinnegans.

Valid point but there isn't a statement that says that it isn't either, but like I said sasuke had half of hagoromo's chakra AND indra's chakra but he still had trouble maintaining his rinnegan as it was extremely chakra taxing to uphold. even obito with hashirama's cells could hold up to ONE of Madara's rinneganan along with his own rinnegan, while Madara was able to handle one since he's the original owner and has more chakra than obito, but hagoromo's chakra>>>>>>>Madara's and hashi's, and sasuke had indra's chakra and Hagoromo's but the rinnegan was still taxing to uphold, unless you want to argue that hagoromo's chakra is not strong enough to hold a rinnegan as he was born of PRIME kaguya, meaning the quality of sasuke's rinnegan is a lot more than people give it credit for.

 

[Transcendence]

I'm going to correct you on your own little misconception. It's impossible for only Hagoromo's Yin to give Sasuke the Rin'negan, because in your OP you're asserting that it was the sole reason for his Rin'negan awakening. By that logic, Naruto should have also awakened the Rin'negan since he got half of Hagoromo's chakra as well, but that didn't happen. The obvious notion for both their powers; Hagoromo's Yang blossomed RSM and the small amount of Yang and the overwhelming Yin from Hagoromo awakened the tomoe Rin'negan.

2nd misconception; Yes. But what you don't understand is that Ashura and Indra's chakra together make Hagoromo's chakra. They alone have one half (halve split between the division of chakra) themselves, hence why Uchiha's represent Yin and Senju represent Yang. Their was an obvious distinction between what he gave Naruto and Sasuke; one being Yin and the other Yang.

3rd misconeption; Only Madara fans will say it's weaker than two normal Rin'negans. He used 3 different paths in one day and his own CT is more advanced than any CT shown in the manga, so that throws that argument out the window. Naruto's Senjutsu is superior to Madara's own as a Jin and to follow suit, it just seems fitting that Sasuke's Dojutsu is superior.

And there's no need to comment on the fourth one. Sasuke can only use the MS techs that are within his ability. He isn't going to be using Kamui or KA out of nowhere.

 

[Zavage10]

Thats was a good read. I agree on most of it.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Agree on everything except sasuke's rinnegan(It's not rinnesharingan ,its rinnegan.Sasuke himself stated it way too many times) is only different by the appearance not power.:|

 

[Gerkak]

I agree with most of what you said except sasuke's rinnegan being better than hogoromo and madara's.

 

[Zavage10]

Agree on everything except sasuke's rinnegan(It's not rinnesharingan ,its rinnegan.Sasuke himself stated it way too many times) is only different by the appearance not power.:|

Ikr! Rinnesharingan is not even kkg its a kkm..,

 

[DHOH]

I agree with most.. Good read.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

I'm going to correct you on your own little misconception. It's impossible for only Hagoromo's Yin to give Sasuke the Rin'negan, because in your OP you're asserting that it was the sole reason for his Rin'negan awakening. By that logic, Naruto should have also awakened the Rin'negan since he got half of Hagoromo's chakra as well, but that didn't happen. The obvious notion for both their powers; Hagoromo's Yang blossomed RSM and the small amount of Yang and the overwhelming Yin from Hagoromo awakened the tomoe Rin'negan.

2nd misconception; Yes. But what you don't understand is that Ashura and Indra's chakra together make Hagoromo's chakra. They alone have one half (halve split between the division of chakra) themselves, hence why Uchiha's represent Yin and Senju represent Yang. Their was an obvious distinction between what he gave Naruto and Sasuke; one being Yin and the other Yang.

3rd misconeption; Only Madara fans will say it's weaker than two normal Rin'negans. He used 3 different paths in one day and his own CT is more advanced than any CT shown in the manga, so that throws that argument out the window. Naruto's Senjutsu is superior to Madara's own as a Jin and to follow suit, it just seems fitting that Sasuke's Dojutsu is superior.

And there's no need to comment on the fourth one. Sasuke can only use the MS techs that are within his ability. He isn't going to be using Kamui or KA out of nowhere.

1:Actually in my Original Post I said the rinnegan was Yinand due to having hagoromo's Yin and Indra's power his rinnegan blossomed. but by your logic sasuke should have RSM because he got half of hagoromo's chakra as well, I simply said he obtained the Yin portiuon which, when mixed with Indra's chakra brought forth the rinnegan, progenitors of two eyes in one basically.

2:Oh no I get that, I'm simply saying that it's like this, Hagoromo and Hamura have half of kaguya's power correct? well think of it this way, if I got hagoromo's and Hamura's power that does not guarantee that I'll get a rinne sharnningan, now if you had KAGUYA's power I would more than likely obtain the rinne sharnningan due to me getting it from the direct source. that's what I'm saying the reason is, ashura and Indra's power only gave birth to the standard rinnegan, but the combination of Hagoromo's power itself and Indra's power brought fort a tomoe one. think of it this way, you're basically saying ashura+Indra>Hagoromo(Yin)+Indra, neither Indra or Ashura was nearly as strong as Hagoromo even with half his power for obvious reason visible as Indra didn't have rinnegan but only sharnningan and ashura probably had sage mode but not six paths sage mode. placing hagoromo above both of them even with half his power, and since dojutsu are yin, yang+yin=evolved eye, Yin+Yin=Advanced evolved eye.

3rd: :leaf: pretty much :leaf:

4th:Yeah even I can admit he may have potential but it's merely fanfiction

thanks again for your thoughts

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

I'm going to correct you on your own little misconception. It's impossible for only Hagoromo's Yin to give Sasuke the Rin'negan, because in your OP you're asserting that it was the sole reason for his Rin'negan awakening. By that logic, Naruto should have also awakened the Rin'negan since he got half of Hagoromo's chakra as well, but that didn't happen. The obvious notion for both their powers; Hagoromo's Yang blossomed RSM and the small amount of Yang and the overwhelming Yin from Hagoromo awakened the tomoe Rin'negan.

2nd misconception; Yes. But what you don't understand is that Ashura and Indra's chakra together make Hagoromo's chakra. They alone have one half (halve split between the division of chakra) themselves, hence why Uchiha's represent Yin and Senju represent Yang. Their was an obvious distinction between what he gave Naruto and Sasuke; one being Yin and the other Yang.

3rd misconeption; Only Madara fans will say it's weaker than two normal Rin'negans. He used 3 different paths in one day and his own CT is more advanced than any CT shown in the manga, so that throws that argument out the window. Naruto's Senjutsu is superior to Madara's own as a Jin and to follow suit, it just seems fitting that Sasuke's Dojutsu is superior.

And there's no need to comment on the fourth one. Sasuke can only use the MS techs that are within his ability. He isn't going to be using Kamui or KA out of nowhere.

1:Actually in my Original Post I said the rinnegan was Yinand due to having hagoromo's Yin and Indra's power his rinnegan blossomed. but by your logic sasuke should have RSM because he got half of hagoromo's chakra as well, I simply said he obtained the Yin portiuon which, when mixed with Indra's chakra brought forth the rinnegan, progenitors of two eyes in one basically.

2:Oh no I get that, I'm simply saying that it's like this, Hagoromo and Hamura have half of kaguya's power correct? well think of it this way, if I got hagoromo's and Hamura's power that does not guarantee that I'll get a rinne sharnningan, now if you had KAGUYA's power I would more than likely obtain the rinne sharnningan due to me getting it from the direct source. that's what I'm saying the reason is, ashura and Indra's power only gave birth to the standard rinnegan, but the combination of Hagoromo's power itself and Indra's power brought fort a tomoe one. think of it this way, you're basically saying ashura+Indra>Hagoromo(Yin)+Indra, neither Indra or Ashura was nearly as strong as Hagoromo even with half his power for obvious reason visible as Indra didn't have rinnegan but only sharnningan and ashura probably had sage mode but not six paths sage mode. placing hagoromo above both of them even with half his power, and since dojutsu are yin, yang+yin=evolved eye, Yin+Yin=Advanced evolved eye.

3rd: :leaf: pretty much :leaf:

4th:Yeah even I can admit he may have potential but it's merely fanfiction

thanks again for your thoughts

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Agree on everything except sasuke's rinnegan(It's not rinnesharingan ,its rinnegan.Sasuke himself stated it way too many times) is only different by the appearance not power.:|

This pretty much, and I don't think I said his rinnegan is a rinne sharnningan though, if I ever said that it was a comparison to KAGUYA'S eye not stating that his eye itself is a rinne sharnningan, everyone should know this by now...but again I don't think anywhere I said sasuke's eye is a rinne sharnningan

 

[Venomous Cobra]

This pretty much, and I don't think I said his rinnegan is a rinne sharnningan though, if I ever said that it was a comparison to KAGUYA'S eye not stating that his eye itself is a rinne sharnningan, everyone should know this by now...but again I don't think anywhere I said sasuke's eye is a rinne sharnningan

It wasn't necessarily to OP .


You will be surprised by the amount of retards that actually think that sasuke has a rinnesharingan........and the worst part is that they think rinnesharingan stands for the abilities of both sharingan and rinnegan.....

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[Mikeuhsomething36]

I agree with most of what you said except sasuke's rinnegan being better than hogoromo and madara's.

well it's superior to madara's...for obvious reasons....and reasons explained...but I can at least understand why people say no to Hagoromo as he's the sage but people keep thinking about his power as a whole. Think about it sasuke's rinnegan capabilities surprised even Hagoromo himself who is a wielder of the rinnegan in his own right so why should he be surprised? Hagoromo has both INCREDIBLE yin and INCREDIBLE Yang I feell like people compare him as a whole to sasuke, i'm talking solely about eye power. I already explained the chakra taxing nature of sasuke's rinnegan compared to the standard one. but tha's just something I've noticed think of it this way give two people a hammer but give the weaker person a stronger hammer but give the weaker hammer to the stronger person, mind you both hammers still hit pretty hard but the weaker person has a stronger hammer and the stronger person has a weaker hammer but the stronger person will win due to him being stronger than the weaker person. that's kind of how the comparison of Hagoromo's rinnegan and sasuke's rinnegan is going.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

It wasn't necessarily to OP .


You will be surprised by the amount of retards that actually think that sasuke has a rinnesharingan........and the worst part is that they think rinnesharingan stands for the abilities of both sharingan and rinnegan.....

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XD I've seen them trust me, well at least the databook and manga facts are a thing :leaf:

 

[WalksInShadows]

1. It was never stated that Kabuto used Hashirama's cells to keep Sasuke from dying. What Kabuto actually said was that his inspiration for being as good a medic as he was came from studying Hashirama's cells. Orochimaru already stated during the 2nd arc in P2 that Kabuto was excellent at keeping his test subjects from dying with his medical expertise.

3. Ok, the manga shows a clear difference of performance in regards to seeing Madara and Obito using one of their eyes vs. using both of them. Obito already showed that it only takes one eye to put a bijuu under hypnosis with just 1 Sharingan, so that's not that big a deal. Hagoromo's remark about the incident in question was merely about how Sasuke hypnotized all 9 bijuu with just 1 glance, not how much power it took to do it.

Secondly, this fantasy about how Sasuke's Rinnegan is > than Madara/Hagoromo's Rinnegan's needs to stop ASAP. It makes absolutely no sense that Sasuke would be given a Rinnegan that is > than a Rikudou when it came from one, let alone claim it's stronger because it happened to have tomoe in it w/o anything that shows/mentions it as being stronger. The difference in power can especially be shown when comparing Madara's CTs against Sasuke's. For crying out loud, Madara made CT's that dwarfed Sasuke's mech, and Sasuke's was barely large enough to hold a fully cognizant bijuu. And you're asking for proof of a difference in eye power? Dude, did you not pay attention to what Madara told Obito about how the full strength of someone's eyes becomes evident when both are together? That means 2 of the same kind of eyes in both sockets are in fact, better than 1.

Thirdly, it's way past time to quit giving these combo names like Sharinnegan to Sasuke's Rinnegan just to make it sound like it's better. It's just a Rinnegan with tomoe in it, that's it. The only ppl who officially had an eye with a combo name is Madara and Kaguya.

Fourth, i noticed how you try to argue against Madara's JJ feats, yet every last one of Sasuke's feats that were performed since coming off the sidelines can be attributed to having gotten chakra from either someone with bijuu power or the bijuu themselves.

Lastly, Sasuke's difficulty in handling his Rinnegan wasn't because it was better than a Rikudou's Rinnegan. It was because Sasuke was either too weak/inefficient to handle one, he wasn't the genius that he was reported to be, or a combination of both. Nagato had to have near bijuu chakra lvls to handle Madara's Rinnegan, and even then it was taking everything out of him.